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Speech Given Today at UN by son of Hamas Cofounder Mosab Hassan Yousef

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posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

So why are you so dead set against giving him any credibility?

Guess you are calling him a liar then?


I said one person's life experience does not a universal truth make. His truth may not be another Hamas son's truth. Can we hear from other Hamas sons to see if the narrative fits?



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Children and minor are interchangable. But children is more inflamatory.

Keep in mind, children cross the Mexican border with children of their own under each arm.

Children grow up sooner in the 3rd world. It is known.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, I think hearing from someone raised in Palestine, under a leader of Hamas, might have some insight.

People like me?

You seem to have a problem with his message as it doesn't back up your POV. So what kind of people are you?



Just pointing out your unwillingness to accept that Israel and Hamas are calling the Israel children prisoners, 'children'. Says a lot about you.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Children and minor are interchangable. But children is more inflamatory.

Keep in mind, children cross the Mexican border with children of their own under each arm.

Children grow up sooner in the 3rd world. It is known.



Wow just wow. You are really far gone.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

ANy other Hamas sons want to address the UN? I'll give them a listen.

Did you listen to this one?

WHat did you think about his "Putins birthday present comment'?



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

ANy other Hamas sons want to address the UN? I'll give them a listen.

Did you listen to this one?

WHat did you think about his "Putins birthday present comment'?


What do you think about over 4,000 children being massacred by IDF forces?



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

The report I read said 'minors'.

That you have to keep coming at me for using a different synonym says more ABOUT YOU.

Is a 16 year both a minor and a child? My son is 48. His is one of my children. Is he a minor?

Are there 16 year olds in prison in the US for murder?

Are there people in the US that havent come to trial yet?

You act as if Israel has done something cruel and unusual with the people they are negotiating to exchange with. We could find the same kind of 'children' being held in the US in the same legal status. Accused and awaiting trial.


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posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:45 AM
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remove all the ifs, ands or butts, and just look at the facts... so many people are cheerfully and happily carrying water daily for a death cult, that happens to be a wildly acknowledged terrorist organization.

This isnt a who is right thing... its people defending a group that would cheerfully delete the majority of the population on the planet because you dont believe in the 12th imam, or are labeled a defective... people that think hitler was a misunderstood genius.

Its astonishing... you could argue in defense of the women and children and elderly in gaza... nope defending the actions of terrorists.

Wow... every day the internet sinks a little lower in the swamp.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone
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Which government in any country is not armed?



Then Hamas must be it own government.


How can people have a government while being under occupation? It's a sham.


Good point. It must be difficult live under the occupation of Hamas. They have put themselves in the situation they are in by teaching hate and have chosen a life of misery by voting in Hamas.Hamas has not allowed elections since.

Hamas has committed the ultimate war crimes and they are being dealt with now because they have given Israel no choice. How can such men get an erection while killing someone and rape the women to the point of broken pelvises? That is uncivilized and extremely barbaric. I don’t know what to tell you, but they are not raising their children correctly if they can perform these acts and yell “God is Great” over their victims like a pack of hyenas.

Israel would not be there any longer if it weren’t for the rocket/missile defense system because Hamas and Hezbollah rockets that are constantly being shot into Israel. These rockets fall on their own people at least 10% of the time. I think the fact that Israel have “safe rooms” in their houses speaks volumes.

You have posted enough that I have your number (figure of speech- I don’t actually have your number)- I know what you are about. I still wish you a good day though.
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posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

The report I read said 'minors'.

That you have to keep coming at me for using a different synonym says more ABOUT YOU.

Is a 16 year both a minor and a child? My son is 48. His is one of my children. Is he a minor?

Are there 16 year olds in prison in the US for murder?

Are there people in the US that havent come to trial yet?

You act as if Israel has done something cruel and unusual with the people they are negotiating to exchange with. We could find the same kind of 'children' being held in the US in the same legal status. Accused and awaiting trial.



What does 'minors' mean? It means children.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

So, usually you argue to correct a point or counter. Ad infinitum.

WHen you only have an ad hominim in return, I know your arguement about my point was completely and throughtly defeated and you have nothing left to salvage your pride.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, it means children, up to the age of 18. A 14 year old with a baby is a mother, a minor and a child.

My 48 year old son and my 33 year old daughter are my children. Neither are minors.

SEE?



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: OnlyYouKnow2

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone
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Which government in any country is not armed?



Then Hamas must be it own government.


How can people have a government while being under occupation? It's a sham.


Good point. It must be difficult live under the occupation of Hamas. They have put themselves in the situation they are in by teaching hate and have chosen a life of misery by voting in Hamas.Hamas has not allowed elections since.

Hamas has committed the ultimate war crimes and they are being dealt with now because they have given Israel no choice. How can such men get an erection while killing someone and rape the women to the point of broken pelvises? That is uncivilized and extremely barbaric. I don’t know what to tell you, but they are not raising their children correctly if they can perform these acts and yell “God is Great” over their victims like a pack of hyenas.

Israel would not be there any longer if it weren’t for the rocket/missile defense system because Hamas and Hezbollah rockets that are constantly being shot into Israel. These rockets fall on their own people at least 10% of the time. I think the fact that Israel have “safe rooms” in their houses speaks volumes.

You have posted enough that I have your number (figure of speech- I don’t actually have your number)- I know what you are about. I still wish you a good day though.


The Oct 7th attack needs independent investigation because it is now being speculated that after Hamas broke through the gates that Jihad came afterwards and it was Jihad that may have committed those atrocities. The problem here is that we do not yet have independent investigations.

The two released woman hostages spoke well of the treatment by Hamas, so are they not to be believed after their release?

If Hamas were given what they and the Palestinian people wanted during the negotiations then none of this would be happening now. Israel, U.S. and others have only their interests in mind, as is the continuing reality going on right now

Hamas and Israel are committing the ultimate war crimes and neither side is rational.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

So, usually you argue to correct a point or counter. Ad infinitum.

WHen you only have an ad hominim in return, I know your arguement about my point was completely and throughtly defeated and you have nothing left to salvage your pride.



My pride? lol I see you have to resort to these tactics because I proved my point.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

The report I read said 'minors'.

That you have to keep coming at me for using a different synonym says more ABOUT YOU.

Is a 16 year both a minor and a child? My son is 48. His is one of my children. Is he a minor?

Are there 16 year olds in prison in the US for murder?

Are there people in the US that havent come to trial yet?

You act as if Israel has done something cruel and unusual with the people they are negotiating to exchange with. We could find the same kind of 'children' being held in the US in the same legal status. Accused and awaiting trial.



Are you willing to read what abuses these children endured while detained/imprisoned? Are you brave enough to look at the reality of these children's experiences?


www.savethechildren.org.uk...

www.middleeasteye.net...#:~:text=According%20to%20Israel%20Prison%20Service,arbitrarily%20d etained%20in%20military%20facilities.
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posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Victim blaming has become a plague. I can’t believe you typed all of that; you really have no shame.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: OnlyYouKnow2
a reply to: quintessentone

Victim blaming has become a plague. I can’t believe you typed all of that; you really have no shame.


It's not victim blaming it's looking for the truth. The only victims here are the Palestinian civilians.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Dang, doubling down now. Amazing.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

So you did NOT just post a one line ad hominem? Its plain as the nose on your face, but its me that came after you?

Nope.



posted on Nov, 22 2023 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: OnlyYouKnow2
a reply to: quintessentone

Dang, doubling down now. Amazing.


You bet I'll double down when the truth is obvious and most of the world knows it. Turning a blind eye to the reality of this conflict is sad to watch here on ATS.



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