Speech Given Today at UN by son of Hamas Cofounder Mosab Hassan Yousef

a reply to: quintessentone

And going into combat to “shoot everything” where most decent people would think the opposing government would evacuate civilians from the front lines and military targets instead of unsung human shields is nothing comparable to Hamas starting a war to leave its land by entering Israel with sanctioned murder, rape, torture, taking hostages by specifically targeting civilians.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone

As I stated previously, give Palestinians self-government

Hamas is the government of Gaza that is armed. And we see what they do with the power they do have. And the opening post of this thread, you repeatedly have derailed, shows Hamas is in the dark ages of human rights compared to Israel. Would you want the Palestinian equivalent of the KKK which is Hamas to freely enter you county. Hell no.

Which government in any country is not armed?

Hamas victory to power was only because the Palestinian people wanted to get rid of the existing corrupt government at the time. Kind of like having only a two candidate choice between Hillary and Donald, so choosing the lesser evil?

What is expected of any peoples under occupation? This will be a never ending conflict if it continues as it is, or if Israel thinks they can get rid of Hamas, they can't and they are escalating tensions in the region. It's a s**t show and everyone is going to lose.

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: quintessentone

And going into combat to “shoot everything” where most decent people would think the opposing government would evacuate civilians from the front lines and military targets instead of unsung human shields is nothing comparable to Hamas starting a war to leave its land by entering Israel with sanctioned murder, rape, torture, taking hostages by specifically targeting civilians.

Both sides are committing war crimes and the world is not on Israel's side.

originally posted by: quintessentone
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Which government in any country is not armed?

Then Hamas must be it own government.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone
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Which government in any country is not armed?

Then Hamas must be it own government.

How can people have a government while being under occupation? It's a sham.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone
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Which government in any country is not armed?

Then Hamas must be it own government.

How can people have a government while being under occupation? It's a sham.

What occupation is that? Islam?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: quintessentone

And going into combat to “shoot everything” where most decent people would think the opposing government would evacuate civilians from the front lines and military targets instead of unsung human shields is nothing comparable to Hamas starting a war to leave its land by entering Israel with sanctioned murder, rape, torture, taking hostages by specifically targeting civilians.

Both sides are committing war crimes and the world is not on Israel's side.

Again. Israel using surgical strikes to take out valid terrorist targets that Hamas refuses to evacuate civilians and chooses to cower behind human shields are not war crimes by Israel.

How do you suggest Israel take out the armed Hamas government that initiated a war by sanctioned murder, rape, torture, taking of hostages by specificity targeting civilians.

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: quintessentone
International Law is clear and the world is rising up against Israel and the U.S. and others who are complicit in these war crimes.

There it is, for all of ATS to see. A terrorist sympathizer and an enemy of Americans and Israelis. You've chosen your side.

I was thinking the exact same thing. True intentions shown.

a reply to: quintessentone

Ten dollars say you didn't listen to the video.

I posted a link last night to this on another thread.

Its POWERFUL.

Id suspect someone who grew up inside HAMAS would know more about them than any one of us here.

a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, after getting out of prison for being a son of Hamas, he did become an Israeli asset.

TO DEFEAT HAMAS.

He says in the video that his his goal. Why do you think it propaganda?

Do you believe he was NOT BRUTALLY ABUSED and brainwashed growing up?

a reply to: quintessentone

His father is a HAMAS leader.

But you know better.

And hes in it for 'sensationalism'.


Whats wrong with you?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

His father is a HAMAS leader.

But you know better.

And hes in it for 'sensationalism'.


Whats wrong with you?

What wrong with you? Eating up any biased media views that fit your narrative.

He is also trying to reenergize his book sales. Get real.

Where are the other sons of Hamas? There must be thousands of other sons wanting to tell their story too, where are they?

As I say, one person's life experiences does not a universal truth make. It's one person's experience not everyone's experience.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, after getting out of prison for being a son of Hamas, he did become an Israeli asset.

TO DEFEAT HAMAS.

He says in the video that his his goal. Why do you think it propaganda?

Do you believe he was NOT BRUTALLY ABUSED and brainwashed growing up?

I'd like to hear from the children that will be released from Israel prisons. They also have stories to tell.

a reply to: quintessentone

Is a speech to the UN media bias tho'?

How many sons of Hamas want to address the UN? DO you know if they have been rejected.

Your hatred of this man is nearly dripping off every comment. WHY?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Is a speech to the UN media bias tho'?

Is it? He's the Palestinian Ambassador involved in both sides of this conflict. Who better knows the inside stories of both sides? Keywords: both sides.

a reply to: quintessentone

I doubt they are 'children'. I suspect they are minors.

There are minors in American lock up. Some committed mass murder even.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Is a speech to the UN media bias tho'?

How many sons of Hamas want to address the UN? DO you know if they have been rejected.

Your hatred of this man is nearly dripping off every comment. WHY?

I don't hate anyone. What I am pointing out here on this thread is the absolute acceptance of specially chosen media targeted to people such as you. It's laughable.

I hope the children prisoners to be released from Israeli prisons have their chance to tell their stories.

a reply to: quintessentone

So why are you so dead set against giving him any credibility?

Guess you are calling him a liar then?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

I doubt they are 'children'. I suspect they are minors.

There are minors in American lock up. Some committed mass murder even.

Those that were tried by the IDF and deemed to be murderers will not be released.

The others who have been imprisoned without any trial will be released.

Not sure why you aren't calling them children when Israel and Hamas are calling them children.

That says all we need to know about you and your blind bias.

a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, I think hearing from someone raised in Palestine, under a leader of Hamas, might have some insight.

People like me?

You seem to have a problem with his message as it doesn't back up your POV. So what kind of people are you?