If you support the call for Israel to offer ceasefire, then you support Hamas.

a reply to: Freeborn

Why is Israel also taking the blame for 'breeding another generation of hatred'. Exactly what Hamas has done with an entire generation of Gazans. Since pre-school. Trained to hate. Trained to want to kill.

Nobody ever blames terrorists for breeding another generation of hatred, within the populations that they hold captive.

I think it's just another way to victim blame. And stiffle Israels right to self-defense.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

It'd be pretty bloody risky to call a unilateral ceasefire when Hamas are still a live threat wouldn't it.

If I'm being honest I don't particularly like seeing people die, we all should be better than that.
But unfortunately the realities of life are pretty horrific.

Israel has to nullify Hamas as a threat to them.

I will grant you that this is probably breeding another desensitised generation who know nothing but hatred.

But being realistic what options do Israel have?
Unilateral ceasefire isn't an option for them; their responsibility and duty is to safeguard their own people.

I don't profess to have any long term lasting solution; I'm just a simple man from a small town in North East England.
But I know if this horrific terrorist attack had been carried out in the UK I would be demanding that my government eradicate the immediate threat of a repeat.

A ceasefire is always an option.

That's what a ceasefire opens the door to; long-term lasting solution.

The continued IDF response lasting through the months guarantees a stronger terrorist threat for future generations.

Is calling for a ceasefire supporting terrorists?



Me from the post to which you replied:



"Am I guilty, dear fellow human being of Planet Earth, of supporting terrorists for calling for ceasefire?"

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Would Israel be guilty of supporting terrorists for supporting a ceasefire?

Follow the logic of the thread.

It is disinformation.

/thread

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

The continued IDF response lasting through the months guarantees a stronger terrorist threat for future generations.

"Am I guilty, dear fellow human being of Planet Earth, of supporting terrorists for calling for ceasefire?"

'You' and your like can call for a ceasefire all night long but noone that matters will be listening or care what 'you' or they think.

If you go out of your way to and cause harm to others during your pointless wailings, then yes, you should be treated as supporting terrorism.

The continued IDF response guarantees that more of those responsible do not get to continue exsisting or matter any longer.

any reply to: BiothermalReactor

Which page of this 28 page post is disinformation, exactly?

Can you point to where it concerns you?

There is quite a large amount illogic in this thread too. Tons of virtue but little logic.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Allowing Hamas to fester for 20 years produced Oct. 7

Hamas is responsible for a generation of hatred pointed toward Israel. Since pre-school, they are taught to hate Jews.

Seems to me Hamas is responsible for a generation of hatred even if Israel holds a ceasefire.

This isn't going to work for Israel.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

This news will make you happy:

www.msn.com...

5 day pause and hostage release

We shall see which side can negotiate and honor agreements

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

It'd be pretty bloody risky to call a unilateral ceasefire when Hamas are still a live threat wouldn't it.

If I'm being honest I don't particularly like seeing people die, we all should be better than that.
But unfortunately the realities of life are pretty horrific.

Israel has to nullify Hamas as a threat to them.

I will grant you that this is probably breeding another desensitised generation who know nothing but hatred.

But being realistic what options do Israel have?
Unilateral ceasefire isn't an option for them; their responsibility and duty is to safeguard their own people.

I don't profess to have any long term lasting solution; I'm just a simple man from a small town in North East England.
But I know if this horrific terrorist attack had been carried out in the UK I would be demanding that my government eradicate the immediate threat of a repeat.

A ceasefire is always an option.

That's what a ceasefire opens the door to; long-term lasting solution.

The continued IDF response lasting through the months guarantees a stronger terrorist threat for future generations.

Is calling for a ceasefire supporting terrorists?

You’re wrong.
You cannot negotiate with Hamas.
More proof from today….

"What we are saying about a cease-fire — and I think it's been a very clear position of this administration throughout — is that not only is Hamas not seeking a cease-fire, but they are saying that their goal is to repeat the events of October 7th — the horrific attacks that took place — again and again, to the extent that they can, until Israel is eliminated.
redstate.com...

a ceasefire requires 2 parties willing to sit down...

who is Israel supposed to negotiate with?

Hamas... how about no, you dont negotiate with a terrorist you kill them.

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Why is Israel also taking the blame for 'breeding another generation of hatred'.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough; I support Israel and don't blame them.
I don't think they had any other option other than to take the course of action they are doing.

But I'm afraid to say I think an inevitable consequence will be at least one more generation of Palestinians/Gazans who hate the Israeli state and by extension probably Jews in general.

And I also think I've been very clear and consistent in stating that the blame and responsibility for this lies completely with Hamas and those who support them, either directly or indirectly.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

That's what a ceasefire opens the door to; long-term lasting solution.

That requires two-way dialogue.
Who exactly is Israel supposed to negotiate and agree a long-term lasting solution with?

The continued IDF response lasting through the months guarantees a stronger terrorist threat for future generations.

Stronger than attacking them and killing approximately 1400 people?
If Israel does not eradicate Hamas then the only certainty is that Hamas will continue with their terrorist attacks against them.

Hamas refuses to negotiate anything with Israel.
It does not recognise Israel as a legal entity.
No amount of wishful thinking will change that.

Is calling for a ceasefire supporting terrorists?

A unilateral ceasefire will only result in terrorist attacks.

a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a ceasefire requires 2 parties willing to sit down...

who is Israel supposed to negotiate with?

Hamas... how about no, you don't negotiate with a terrorist you kill them.

Is it supporting terrorists for one to support a ceasefire against terrorists?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

A unilateral ceasefire will only result in terrorist attacks.

But is it supporting the terrorists?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

Is it anti-Jew to support a ceasefire with the terrorists Israel is currently engaging combatically?

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

Personally I think hamas and Iran has succeeded.

They have united the globe against Israel and anti-Jew anything is on the rise.

Is it anti-Jew to support a ceasefire with the terrorists Israel is currently engaging combatically?

Have the palestinians released the hostages yet?

originally posted by: VermiIion

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

It'd be pretty bloody risky to call a unilateral ceasefire when Hamas are still a live threat wouldn't it.

If I'm being honest I don't particularly like seeing people die, we all should be better than that.
But unfortunately the realities of life are pretty horrific.

Israel has to nullify Hamas as a threat to them.

I will grant you that this is probably breeding another desensitised generation who know nothing but hatred.

But being realistic what options do Israel have?
Unilateral ceasefire isn't an option for them; their responsibility and duty is to safeguard their own people.

I don't profess to have any long term lasting solution; I'm just a simple man from a small town in North East England.
But I know if this horrific terrorist attack had been carried out in the UK I would be demanding that my government eradicate the immediate threat of a repeat.

A ceasefire is always an option.

That's what a ceasefire opens the door to; long-term lasting solution.

The continued IDF response lasting through the months guarantees a stronger terrorist threat for future generations.

Is calling for a ceasefire supporting terrorists?

You’re wrong.
You cannot negotiate with Hamas.
More proof from today….

"What we are saying about a cease-fire — and I think it's been a very clear position of this administration throughout — is that not only is Hamas not seeking a cease-fire, but they are saying that their goal is to repeat the events of October 7th — the horrific attacks that took place — again and again, to the extent that they can, until Israel is eliminated.
redstate.com...

Okay, so is it supporting terrorists for one to support a ceasefire?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

This news will make you happy:

www.msn.com...

5 day pause and hostage release

We shall see which side can negotiate and honor agreements

As, I'm almost 100% certain, it will the innocent Palestinians still trapped in the city of hell.


Is Israel supporting terrorists NOW since they HAVE NOW called for a cease fire?

I'm only following the logic of the thread title.

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

The continued IDF response lasting through the months guarantees a stronger terrorist threat for future generations.

"Am I guilty, dear fellow human being of Planet Earth, of supporting terrorists for calling for ceasefire?"

'You' and your like can call for a ceasefire all night long but noone that matters will be listening or care what 'you' or they think.

If you go out of your way to and cause harm to others during your pointless wailings, then yes, you should be treated as supporting terrorism.

The continued IDF response guarantees that more of those responsible do not get to continue exsisting or matter any longer.

Ok, but am I supporting terrorists for doing so?

a reply to: DBCowboy

I think that's the message MSM are trying to deliver.

I do think we may be approaching the time when people/governments are going to have to decide which side of the fence they are on.
I know which side I'm on.