If you support the call for Israel to offer ceasefire, then you support Hamas.

a reply to: kwaka

Yes, Jews already there, and Jews rescued from the camps after WW2. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

Yes, the media is finding a few quisling Jews that think they will be devoured last, I guess.

Any Jew not defending Israel's right to statehood and self-defense should not be allowed to be considered citizens of Israel.

I'm certain they are in the minority.

originally posted by: PorkChop96

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Why would Israel call for a cease-fire?

Not at all pertinent to the question and is a speculative question that would require an off-topic answer.

Please, with your next post, use the same logic you've been using every page here, please

admit that if Israel calls for a ceasefire, then they would be supporting terrorism.

Why would Israel call for a case-fire?

It doesn't matter WHY Israel would call for a ceasefire.

WOULD Israel be supporting terrorists IF they called a ceasefire?

And: Would you be willing to admit that Israel supports terrorists if they did call for a ceasefire?

See how they won't answer that question. Questions for thee to answer but not for me.

You sure know a lot about that, now don't you?

If Israel called for a cease fire, there is no guarantee that HAMAS would follow through, and here we are, yet again, with Israel getting attacked. And as soon as they retaliate, yet again, they will be condemned by the world that has no idea what they are talking about.

An endless loop that will, more than likely, only end with one side being wiped off the face of the earth.

But does that mean, since the terrorists might break the ceasefire, if Israel calls for one, does that make them terrorist supporters?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Why would Israel call for a cease-fire?

Not at all pertinent to the question and is a speculative question that would require an off-topic answer.

Please, with your next post, use the same logic you've been using every page here, please

admit that if Israel calls for a ceasefire, then they would be supporting terrorism.

Why would Israel call for a case-fire?

It doesn't matter WHY Israel would call for a ceasefire.

WOULD Israel be supporting terrorists IF they called a ceasefire?

And: Would you be willing to admit that Israel supports terrorists if they did call for a ceasefire?

See how they won't answer that question. Questions for thee to answer but not for me.

It's a stupid question without discussing WHY.

hamas wants a cease-fire, again, because they are losing.

A cease-fire for them is just a chance to reload and do it all over again.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor



That hurt my head a little trying to figure out how those two things could even come close to linking

As I said, if Israel calls a cease fire, HAMAS will likely not follow it or, as another poster has said, they will use it as a chance to regroup and start this roundabout all over again.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

No, Israel should not be treated any differently than any other country based on 'chosen' anything.

What difference does it make if their religion tells them this? Perhaps they also tell them they are chosen to suffer.

Did that little boy asking 'Why am I alive?' as he watched the terror of his family being slaughtered. Do you think he felt chosen for anything SPECIAL????

Do you think this child is somehow more at fault then others because his book talks about 12 tribes of special people?

Get over YOUR problems with religious mythology.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Why would Israel call for a cease-fire?

Not at all pertinent to the question and is a speculative question that would require an off-topic answer.

Please, with your next post, use the same logic you've been using every page here, please

admit that if Israel calls for a ceasefire, then they would be supporting terrorism.

Why would Israel call for a case-fire?

It doesn't matter WHY Israel would call for a ceasefire.

WOULD Israel be supporting terrorists IF they called a ceasefire?

And: Would you be willing to admit that Israel supports terrorists if they did call for a ceasefire?

See how they won't answer that question. Questions for thee to answer but not for me.

It's a stupid question without discussing WHY.

hamas wants a cease-fire, again, because they are losing.

A cease-fire for them is just a chance to reload and do it all over again.

It's a stupid question because it follows the template of the false equivalency fallacy that ceasefire supporters are terrorist supporters.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Is Israel calling for a ceasefire?

I haven't heard that.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

No, Israel should not be treated any differently than any other country based on 'chosen' anything.

What difference does it make if their religion tells them this? Perhaps they also tell them they are chosen to suffer.

Did that little boy asking 'Why am I alive?' as he watched the terror of his family being slaughtered. Do you think he felt chosen for anything SPECIAL????

Do you think this child is somehow more at fault then others because his book talks about 12 tribes of special people?

Get over YOUR problems with religious mythology.

I have no problems with mythology. I love mythology.

You have a problem with answering to your logic and I'm trying to help you with it.

If supporters of ceasefire are also aiding and abetting terrorists, would Israel also aid and abet terrorist by calling for a ceasefire?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Is Israel calling for a ceasefire?

I haven't heard that.

Still not the question this thread poses.

Israel ceasefire = aiding and abetting terrorists?

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Why would Israel call for a cease-fire?

Not at all pertinent to the question and is a speculative question that would require an off-topic answer.

Please, with your next post, use the same logic you've been using every page here, please

admit that if Israel calls for a ceasefire, then they would be supporting terrorism.

Why would Israel call for a case-fire?

It doesn't matter WHY Israel would call for a ceasefire.

WOULD Israel be supporting terrorists IF they called a ceasefire?

And: Would you be willing to admit that Israel supports terrorists if they did call for a ceasefire?

See how they won't answer that question. Questions for thee to answer but not for me.

It's a stupid question without discussing WHY.

hamas wants a cease-fire, again, because they are losing.

A cease-fire for them is just a chance to reload and do it all over again.

It's a stupid question because it follows the template of the false equivalency fallacy that ceasefire supporters are terrorist supporters.

Exactly, but they don't seem to get it, still.

As to the topic of this thread it's like people choose who they deem to be the victims and who are the terrorists, black and white, no gray areas because nobody wants to educate themselves on the history of these two factions as well as how the rest of the world played their parts. So ceasefire = supporting Hamas is using the antisemetic card or pushing that propaganda because the idea of a mutual ceasefire with the world players helping them come to an agreement that both can live with is entirely out of the question as per Netanyahu. Can we then turn that around and say because Netanyahu refused a ceasefire that he is playing the Nazi card?

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

That hurt my head a little trying to figure out how those two things could even come close to linking

As I said, if Israel calls a cease fire, HAMAS will likely not follow it or, as another poster has said, they will use it as a chance to regroup and start this roundabout all over again.

I might be able to explain your brain-pain.

The question follows the exact illogical template of "ceasefire supporters = terrorist supporters.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I don't play with what-ifs.

If Israel HAS called for a ceasefire, then I will discuss the wisdom or strategy of that.

Otherwise, you are playing games.

Nope.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Ceasefire means Israel is going to let the terrorists get away with it.

How is that NOT supporting the terrorists?

Just stop playing around, kiddo.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Why would Israel call for a cease-fire?

Not at all pertinent to the question and is a speculative question that would require an off-topic answer.

Please, with your next post, use the same logic you've been using every page here, please

admit that if Israel calls for a ceasefire, then they would be supporting terrorism.

Why would Israel call for a case-fire?

It doesn't matter WHY Israel would call for a ceasefire.

WOULD Israel be supporting terrorists IF they called a ceasefire?

And: Would you be willing to admit that Israel supports terrorists if they did call for a ceasefire?

See how they won't answer that question. Questions for thee to answer but not for me.

It's a stupid question without discussing WHY.

hamas wants a cease-fire, again, because they are losing.

A cease-fire for them is just a chance to reload and do it all over again.

It's a stupid question because it follows the template of the false equivalency fallacy that ceasefire supporters are terrorist supporters.

Did you get a thesaurus for your birthday?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Why would Israel call for a cease-fire?

Not at all pertinent to the question and is a speculative question that would require an off-topic answer.

Please, with your next post, use the same logic you've been using every page here, please

admit that if Israel calls for a ceasefire, then they would be supporting terrorism.

Why would Israel call for a case-fire?

It doesn't matter WHY Israel would call for a ceasefire.

WOULD Israel be supporting terrorists IF they called a ceasefire?

And: Would you be willing to admit that Israel supports terrorists if they did call for a ceasefire?

See how they won't answer that question. Questions for thee to answer but not for me.

It's a stupid question without discussing WHY.

hamas wants a cease-fire, again, because they are losing.

A cease-fire for them is just a chance to reload and do it all over again.

It's a stupid question because it follows the template of the false equivalency fallacy that ceasefire supporters are terrorist supporters.

Exactly, but they don't seem to get it, still.

As to the topic of this thread it's like people choose who they deem to be the victims and who are the terrorists, black and white, no gray areas because nobody wants to educate themselves on the history of these two factions as well as how the rest of the world played their parts. So ceasefire = supporting Hamas is using the antisemetic card or pushing that propaganda because the idea of a mutual ceasefire with the world players helping them come to an agreement that both can live with is entirely out of the question as per Netanyahu. Can we then turn that around and say because Netanyahu refused a ceasefire that he is playing the Nazi card?

Yes, by using the same broken logic described in the topic, you can say anything = anything else.

I'm not sure the human race would have survived so long using math like that.

a reply to: DBCowboy

A cease-fire for them is just a chance to reload and do it all over again.

So you don't know or don't care about the conditions on the southern boarder? Is this the terms and conditions if the Middle East is to push back. Is that why so much fear over 'from the river to the sea'. Either you win or lose.

What about trying to be not such an asshole, like how much land is already stolen and you don't expect them to get pissed? The more you push there worst it is going to get.

If you're hamas, you want a cease-fire because you're getting your asses kicked.

Anyone that calls for a cease-fire is either a willing accomplice to hamas or not very bright.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I got so excited when I first got mine. I went around with all this arcane language, that made people look at me funny, or cringe. Why didn't I look smarter to them?

Then I got bored.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I don't play with what-ifs.

If Israel HAS called for a ceasefire, then I will discuss the wisdom or strategy of that.

Otherwise, you are playing games.

Nope.

Well then you are in the wrong thread there, fellow.

This thread is for discussing the logical fallacy that argues ceasefire=terrorist supporter.

Can you speak to this logic you have used on me a number of times?

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: DBCowboy

A cease-fire for them is just a chance to reload and do it all over again.

So you don't know or don't care about the conditions on the southern boarder? Is this the terms and conditions if the Middle East is to push back. Is that why so much fear over 'from the river to the sea'. Either you win or lose.

What about trying to be not such an asshole, like how much land is already stolen and you don't expect them to get pissed? The more you push there worst it is going to get.

STOLEN?

Try again.

The land was taken because they were losers in previous wars with Israel.