If you support the call for Israel to offer ceasefire, then you support Hamas.

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

If they do, they've miscalculated. If they don't, maybe they want help getting rid of them?

Exactly perhaps Palestinians are ready to take up arms against their true oppressors Hamas .

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Ok, fair enough - now what does Israel do about a faction that wants to eliminate them from the face of the earth while they hide like bitches behind civilians? Where is the international outcry at Hamas?

A faction mind you that just slaughtered countless civilians for no other reason than “from the river to the sea”. These people (Hamas) are not interested in anything other than the entire elimination of Israel - are you ok with that? Sure #in sounds like it.

There will be civilian casualties, war has that kind of outcome. Maybe, just #in maybe, Hamas nuts up and doesn’t use civilians as fodder. One can dream though, one can dream.

a reply to: quintessentone

You never answered any of my questions but went off on a rant.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Do you think they support Hamas or not?

If they do, they've miscalculated. If they don't, maybe they want help getting rid of them?

I imagine most Gazan public support for HAMAS is out of fear of HAMAS because they live in the same city as HAMAS.

I imagine that the Palestinian people who live in Gaza that do want HAMAS gone, and do want to live in peace or learn to leave peacefully, would not want HAMAS removed by having the entire city bombarded since HAMAS has underground networks to shelter from the bombing while the civilians are trapped topside, and they understand fully that HAMAS will survive the bombardment before they do.

originally posted by: glen200376
a reply to: quintessentone

You never answered any of my questions but went off on a rant.

I don't rant, I just don't suffer fools.

nvm

originally posted by: dothedew

Like the phrase "From the river to the sea" is a contextual and vitriolic Muslim battle cry for the eradication of a sovereign Jewish state.

Huh?

Oh, I get it, this is like the "OK" symbol that took on the racist meaning. It was originally a descriptive statement, then used here and there by groups all over the place since the 60's, Jews included, but has since miraculously taken on a genocidal, antisemitic meaning, because reasons.

Just trying to keep up to date on everything.

OK, back to the regularly scheduled poo-slinging.

apnews.com...

It doesn't really matter what intentions the road to hell was initially paved in, it's NOW colloquially used as a Waqf battle cry. Which translates as "annihilate Israel".

“Palestine is ours from the river to the sea and from the south to the north,” Khaled Mashaal, the group’s former leader, said that year in a speech in Gaza celebrating the 25th anniversary of the founding of Hamas. “There will be no concession on any inch of the land.”

Anyone repeating it has to acknowledge Hamas' current application of the phrase.

Now, back to acting like you're above this.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: glen200376
a reply to: quintessentone

You never answered any of my questions but went off on a rant.

I don't rant, I just don't suffer fools.

He who calls someone a Fool is in danger of Hell fire.

It's not a word to be used lightly.

lol Jesus loves us.

I'd like to know where you're from, so we know the stake you have in this.

You argue like your parents are Hamas. If that's the case, you'd garner much more support here, if you were just up front with us.

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: DBCowboy

What's the difference between you and the Deep State?

None.

I am the deep state.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

A ceasefire like the ones that Hamas regularly violate? Like the way they were the ones to launch the initial attacks against Israel?

I'm just curious if your support for Hamas also translates to support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine? Should Ukraine ceasefire? I'm just curious, you know, for credibility's sake.

Yea, the part where the Hamas/ceasefire proponents have zero credibility is sort of a pickle, unfortunately.

originally posted by: quintessentone
"Why Won't You Call Hamas Terrorists?".

OMG,Is that Jeremy Corbyn?The communist ex Labour leader,known anti semite.
Your propaganda knows no bounds.
In the UK Hamas are a terrorist organisation. If you support then,promote them etc you can be charged under anti terror laws.
You would be getting a visit from SIS if you lived here.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Do the terrorists wear uniforms?

Nope.

They dress like civilians.

They ARE civilians.

There is no difference between HAMAS and Palestinians.

See?

I knew you'd understand.

In a perfect world, we can sort out the star bellied sneetches and get them asylum.

This isn't a perfect world.

It's never been a perfect world.

Then perhaps genocide is very rarely the correct answer. Erase palestine, erase hamas, and liberate the state of israel.

As always, I'm open to other suggestions.

Of course you are. But I don't have any. All other methods have been exhausted and the price for testing hypothesis has been paid ten times over.

a reply to: quintessentone

Videos of Jeremy Corbyn?

a reply to: glen200376

There is only one was to defeat Hamas and that is a ceasefire on both sides then give sovereignty to Palestine, but Israel does not want that so this will not end well for anyone.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Do the terrorists wear uniforms?

Nope.

They dress like civilians.

They ARE civilians.

This is, again, the logical fallacy of equivalence in its natural habitat.

Terrorists dress like civilians, therefore, terrorists are civilians.

To take it further along the same illogic:

Civilians are Terrorists. There is no difference between HAMAS and Palestinians.

Rules for thee but not for me. That is how the bias works here.

I feel like this goes a bit beyond political bias.

It's reminiscent of that episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation in which Captain Picard is captured and tortured by the Kardashians. The torturers try to break Picard's mind by shining four lights at him. The Kardashians then tell Picard if he says he sees five lights then the torture stops.

"THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!"

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

Videos of Jeremy Corbyn?

Like I said, he offers a way to defeat Hamas.