Senior State Department Official Resigns, saying Israel uses US Arms to Massacre Civilians

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
That Israeli fellow that wanted to use nukes on Gaza was chucked out,..

He didn't even call for it or 'want' it ... he just answered a hypothetical question on nuclear warfare and said a nuke would be an option. BAM .. he's out. Bibi didn't even blink an eye and got rid of him.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

If that ever ended it.

It wont. The propaganda purveyors wont have anyone to push their nonsense on if everyone else has walked away agreeing to disagree.

The thing is I am pushing their bloody historical history not propaganda. Once the very very long history is understood and accepted as truth then we can get a better understanding of what is happening and why it is happening now.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
Clearly see why and how even State Department & Government Officials cannot voice their concerns due to orders coming from the top.

They can voice them. But the State Department isn't a democracy. The people are hired to do a job and have to work within the State Department policy otherwise they are detrimental to the mission of the State Department and have to be fired. At least this nobody decided that his politics didn't match the mission statement so he quit. No loss. He'll be easily replaced.

Nice try to justify the censorship but it isn't convincing.

Tried to raise both these concerns with State Dpt. leadership but there was no appetite for discussion. People in the State Dpt. and in Government who have reached out to me to express their support and how horrific they find the US Policy and yet are being told when they try to raise these concerns, look you can get emotional support if you're finding this difficult we'll find you something else to work on but don't question the policy because it is coming from the top

You call this guy nobody?
And you are?

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: quintessentone

UK's analysis concluded the damage scale, velocity, speed and path was consistent with the type of rocket Palestine uses.
So it wasn't just Israel saying that.
Does Israel have those rockets too? I have no idea.
Just relaying what the English concluded.

That's what I am saying, everyone is speculating without actual on the ground investigation. Does Israel have those types of rockets? Who knows?

originally posted by: Leviathan4
Nice try to justify the censorship but it isn't convincing.

You don't understand what 'censorship' is.

The man has an ideology that doesn't match the mission statement of the State Department. He was hired to do a job and he himself says he can't do it. So he quit. Like any other place of employment, the State Department is NOT a democracy. People are hired to do a job and if they can't do it then they are out. That's the truth of the matter. It's not 'censorship'. That's beyond absurd and really desperate of you to try to claim it.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
That Israeli fellow that wanted to use nukes on Gaza was chucked out,..

He didn't even call for it or 'want' it ... he just answered a hypothetical question on nuclear warfare and said a nuke would be an option. BAM .. he's out. Bibi didn't even blink an eye and got rid of him.

As if Netanyahou isn't extreme...
He appealed to the old testament to argue war and destruction for the enemies of his people. Great speech!

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
That Israeli fellow that wanted to use nukes on Gaza was chucked out,..

He didn't even call for it or 'want' it ... he just answered a hypothetical question on nuclear warfare and said a nuke would be an option. BAM .. he's out. Bibi didn't even blink an eye and got rid of him.

He's not gotten rid of, he's only suspended. So it appears threatening to commit genocide via nuclear bomb is not enough to get the boot.

a reply to: Leviathan4

You whine because the guy said nukes were an option in a hypothetical nuclear war, and you whine when Bibi gets rid of the guy. You just want to whine.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
Nice try to justify the censorship but it isn't convincing.

You don't understand what 'censorship' is.

The man has an ideology that doesn't match the mission statement of the State Department. He was hired to do a job and he himself says he can't do it. So he quit. Like any other place of employment, the State Department is NOT a democracy. People are hired to do a job and if they can't do it then they are out. That's the truth of the matter. It's not 'censorship'. That's beyond absurd and really desperate of you to try to claim it.

Aaah I see!
Now the nobody has an ideology....

Tried to raise both these concerns with State Dpt. leadership but there was no appetite for discussion. People in the State Dpt. and in Government who have reached out to me to express their support and how horrific they find the US Policy and yet are being told when they try to raise these concerns, look you can get emotional support if you're finding this difficult we'll find you something else to work on but don't question the policy because it is coming from the top

Use the dictionary and revisit the words

Censorship
Denialism

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
That Israeli fellow that wanted to use nukes on Gaza was chucked out,..

He didn't even call for it or 'want' it ... he just answered a hypothetical question on nuclear warfare and said a nuke would be an option. BAM .. he's out. Bibi didn't even blink an eye and got rid of him.

Is is not gotten rid of, he's only suspended.

Good point.
Suspended is different from sacked.

a reply to: quintessentone

In the immediate, he's gone: someone drags him back, then we will talk...

Chucked out has a timeframe?

You will split every hair you possibly can.

a reply to: FlyersFan

If this State Department Official is a nobody then why do you care so much about a nobody and try desperately to convince us he is...nobody who worths no attention.

a reply to: Leviathan4

It's not censorship. The State Department is NOT a democracy. It's very simple - they are hired to do a job and if they can't do it then they are out. Again. You don't understand censorship and you certainly don't understand how a business or government is run. The mission comes first. Don't agree with the mission? Then don't work there.

originally posted by: [post=27209955]Leviathan4[/post
If this State Department Official is a nobody then why do you care so much about a nobody and try desperately to convince us he is...nobody who worths no attention.

He's nobody. This is just a conversation to kill time until I have to cook dinner. And I'm not the one who is desperate. That would be someone emotionally invested in this crap ... like you.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: Leviathan4

It's not censorship. The State Department is NOT a democracy. It's very simple - they are hired to do a job and if they can't do it then they are out. Again. You don't understand censorship and you certainly don't understand how a business or government is run. The mission comes first. Don't agree with the mission? Then don't work there.

It looks like it

Tried to raise both these concerns with State Dpt. leadership but there was no appetite for discussion. People in the State Dpt. and in Government who have reached out to me to express their support and how horrific they find the US Policy and yet are being told when they try to raise these concerns, look you can get emotional support if you're finding this difficult we'll find you something else to work on but don't question the policy because it is coming from the top

You contradict yourself when you say the State Department isn't a Democracy and then arguing there is no censorship....

a reply to: quintessentone

You are pushing the historical record with spin, that paints a picture that says Israel deserved what happened.

You wish to influence the minds of others with a goal in mind, condemnation of Israel. Thats called PROPAGANDA. It's not some history lesson for others to enjoy.

Its not unbiased, it's not the innocent 'Who me?'

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: [post=27209955]Leviathan4[/post
If this State Department Official is a nobody then why do you care so much about a nobody and try desperately to convince us he is...nobody who worths no attention.

He's nobody. This is just a conversation to kill time until I have to cook dinner. And I'm not the one who is desperate. That would be someone emotionally invested in this crap ... like you.

Just go and cook dinner Liz and careful of the calories you consume.

I will say again If this State Department Official is a nobody then why do you care so much about a nobody and try desperately to convince us he is...nobody who worths no attention...

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: TheValeyard

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels


They're literally sending money to the Taliban and shipping funds for HAMAS's war effort.
Why would they not supply Israel with weapons too?
They're making bank on this.
Come on now.

It ain't about taking sides,
it's about who profits from the fighting.

Who gets the spoils of Gaza, as in the oil there, yet to be drilled?

It's not even about Gaza, but rather about justifying an invasion of Iran.
That's why they sent the money knowing what they'd do with it.
It was bait.
Notice how the talk about Iran sounds recently?

Yet we haven't taken back the 6 billion Biden gave Iran, did we?

The money was sent to Qatar to dole out "as needed" for humanitarian reasons. Note, Hamas headquarters are in Qatar and the Qatari government funds Hamas. Whoever thought it was a good idea to send the $6B there should be investigated.

originally posted by: Leviathan4
You contradict yourself when you say the State Department isn't a Democracy and then arguing there is no censorship....

Nope. Not at all. There is no censorship. People are free to have opinions and their own ideology. But campaigning to change policy isn't going to be put up with because it's not a democracy. The State Department has a mission and if workers can't do their jobs then they are out. It's very simple. Even someone like you should be able to understand it. But then again ... maybe not.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
You contradict yourself when you say the State Department isn't a Democracy and then arguing there is no censorship....

Nope. Not at all. There is no censorship. People are free to have opinions and their own ideology. But campaigning to change policy isn't going to be put up with because it's not a democracy. The State Department has a mission and if workers can't do their jobs then they are out. It's very simple. Even someone like you should be able to understand it. But then again ... maybe not.

Od course there is from what the guy said and testified in his interview. You can't deny it.