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Senior State Department Official Resigns, saying Israel uses US Arms to Massacre Civilians

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posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:50 PM
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Flyers fan literally said "never heard of him" then Leviathan said it doesn't matter if you have or not which I thought was hilarious. How arrogant of flyers fan lmao. Then Flyers fan responded "I never said heard of anything." LOL LOL



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Quick question regarding "civilians".

What uniform does the palestinians, when they are killing, raping, torturing innocent Jews, what uniforms do they wear?



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: sendhelp
Flyers fan literally said "never heard of him" then Leviathan said it doesn't matter if you have or not which I thought was hilarious. How arrogant of flyers fan lmao. Then Flyers fan responded "I never said heard of anything." LOL LOL


OHHHHH .... That is what he was talking about?
I totally missed that. I had no idea what the hell he was ranting on about.
Okay. Got it. Thanks.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels


They're literally sending money to the Taliban and shipping funds for HAMAS's war effort.
Why would they not supply Israel with weapons too?
They're making bank on this.
Come on now.

It ain't about taking sides,
it's about who profits from the fighting.


Who gets the spoils of Gaza, as in the oil there, yet to be drilled?



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
It seems from your response you can't really deal with facts.


You posted his OPINION. That's not a FACT. Learn the difference.

FACT - no where does the CNN article say this guy was a SENIOR State Department official. You made that up. So the fact is that your thread title and premise is false - as usual.

FACT - he's just a guy with an opinion that is different than State Department policy, so he quit. SO WHAT?

FACT - the rest of the State Department continue to support the US policy and mission with Israel.

FACT - you like the reason he quit so you are propagating it here. It matches your own agenda.

Those are the facts. Deal with them.


You haven't watched the video neither you have read the news and trying to argue something out of nothing


it's an uncontroversial fact that US Arms should not be used to Massacre civilians and should not be used to result in massive civilian casualties. US Arms should not be used to kill civilians


What he said it's a fact


The rest of your analysis is just a desperate attempt to disprove him...
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posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: sendhelp
Flyers fan literally said "never heard of him" then Leviathan said it doesn't matter if you have or not which I thought was hilarious. How arrogant of flyers fan lmao. Then Flyers fan responded "I never said heard of anything." LOL LOL


They think we don't read their replies...



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

The US official policy is that Israel "has the right to defend itself".


To that end, it is understandable that Israel maintains sufficient military assets to provide for such "defense". And it is reasonable, as inherent within these bounds, that military equipment be made available to Israel by the US...


For the purpose of Defense.



But, do the citizens of Gaza enjoy the same "right of defense"? If so, who, or what body is recognized, and/or "officially charged" with ensuring that defense?


And if the Gazans enjoy no such right....


Why Not?


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posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels


They're literally sending money to the Taliban and shipping funds for HAMAS's war effort.
Why would they not supply Israel with weapons too?
They're making bank on this.
Come on now.

It ain't about taking sides,
it's about who profits from the fighting.


Who gets the spoils of Gaza, as in the oil there, yet to be drilled?


It's not even about Gaza, but rather about justifying an invasion of Iran.
That's why they sent the money knowing what they'd do with it.
It was bait.
Notice how the talk about Iran sounds recently?



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Of course you wont. You do you.

But the best way to combat propaganda is not give it a forum.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

A very important question DB. Turns out that it's a war crime to not have uniforms.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: TheValeyard

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels


They're literally sending money to the Taliban and shipping funds for HAMAS's war effort.
Why would they not supply Israel with weapons too?
They're making bank on this.
Come on now.

It ain't about taking sides,
it's about who profits from the fighting.


Who gets the spoils of Gaza, as in the oil there, yet to be drilled?


It's not even about Gaza, but rather about justifying an invasion of Iran.
That's why they sent the money knowing what they'd do with it.
It was bait.
Notice how the talk about Iran sounds recently?


Yet we haven't taken back the 6 billion Biden gave Iran, did we?



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: TheValeyard

Sounds a lot like WW2.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: Leviathan4

War is a very dirty and ugly thing. If more understood that, there might just be less of a urge to start one. Once started, then the cause must be delt with. Hiding fighters by mixing in public is not a good idea for the public.


So. Israel is supposed to ignore the thousands of rockets fired from Gaza under Hamas with thing but Jews as targets and the goal to wipe out the Jewish race? With Hamas wanting to wipe out all other religions? Why should Israel sacrifice their women and children because of psycho Hamas?

The big picture isn’t that this is about Israel. It’s about Hamas and it has no respect for freedom of religion.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

" it's an uncontroversial fact that US Arms should not be used to Massacre civilians and should not be used to result in massive civilian casualties. US Arms should not be used to kill civilians"

What he said it's a fact .


No, it's his OPINON that is what is happening. It's not a fact.

FACT - no where does the CNN article say this guy was a SENIOR State Department official. You made that up. So the fact is that your thread title and premise is false - as usual.

FACT - he's just a guy with an opinion that is different than State Department policy, so he quit. SO WHAT?

FACT - the rest of the State Department continue to support the US policy and mission with Israel.

FACT - you like the reason he quit so you are propagating it here. It matches your own agenda.
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posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

Quick question regarding "civilians".

What uniform does the palestinians, when they are killing, raping, torturing innocent Jews, what uniforms do they wear?



Quick question back to you: "What uniform are they allowed to wear?"



Does Israel allow a "Defense Force (military)" to represent the citizens of Gaza?
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posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

Only red white and blue, by golly!




posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: TheValeyard

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels


They're literally sending money to the Taliban and shipping funds for HAMAS's war effort.
Why would they not supply Israel with weapons too?
They're making bank on this.
Come on now.

It ain't about taking sides,
it's about who profits from the fighting.


Who gets the spoils of Gaza, as in the oil there, yet to be drilled?


It's not even about Gaza, but rather about justifying an invasion of Iran.
That's why they sent the money knowing what they'd do with it.
It was bait.
Notice how the talk about Iran sounds recently?


I won't jump to that conclusion just yet. But, yeah, hmm.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: Leviathan4

The US official policy is that Israel "has the right to defend itself".


To that end, it is understandable that Israel maintains sufficient military assets to provide for such "defence". And it is reasonable, as inherent within these bounds, that military equipment be made available to Israel by the US...


For the purpose of Defense.



But, do the citizens of Gaza enjoy the same "right of defense"? If so, who, or what body is recognized, and/or "officially charged with ensuring said Defense?


And if the Gazans enjoy no such right....


Why Not?



It seems Israel on the whole tries to evacuate and shelter their civilians from Hamas rocket attacks. Attacks with nothing but civilians as targets.

While Israel gives warning when they are getting ready to take out a Hamas military targets. Hamas tells their civilians to ignore the warnings, like Hamas gives them a chance, doesn’t bother to evacuate their civilians nor attempts to shelter them.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Of course you wont. You do you.

But the best way to combat propaganda is not give it a forum.



The best way to beat propaganda is disprove it.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

Quick question regarding "civilians".

What uniform does the palestinians, when they are killing, raping, torturing innocent Jews, what uniforms do they wear?



Quick question back to you: "What uniform are the allowed to wear?"



Does Israel allow a "Defense Force (military)" to represent the citizens of Gaza?


I'm guessing, since all the raping, the uniform would be "pants optional".

But thanks for making my point.



Everyone is a civilian when you don't wear a uniform!

What a neat way to fight a war.

One second, you're raping a dead Israeli grandmother, then, BAM, put on your pants, walk away and now you're an innocent palestinian civilian.



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