Tens of Thousands Attend pro-Palestinian Rally in Washington DC

originally posted by: quintessentone
Which came first the tunnels or the buildings?

As I said, the buildings of course. The whole purpose of the tunnels under the buildings is to use civilian places as human shields. The tunnels would have been discovered during the construction process otherwise.

To try to claim that the tunnels were there first is ludicrous and just denial of Hamas using human shields.

originally posted by: quintessentone
Well, you interpret it one way and I interpret it another. The reality is both our interpretations are true because both sides have had their bloody history and both are culpable.

NO. There is no alternate way to interpret these slogans and chants.
NO. They both are not true. There is only one meaning for them.
They are not peaceful. They are not simply 'pro palestine'.

"From the River to the Sea .... '
'Long Live Intifada ...'
'Allah Akbar ....'

From the River to the Sea - the chant used to call for the destruction of Israel and the death of the Jews.

Long live intifada - the chant used to recall the violence when thousands of people were murdered in the name of destruction of Israel and death of the Jews.

Allah Akbar - the chant used by muslim terrorists around the world when they slaughter innocent people.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Which came first the tunnels or the buildings?

As I said, the buildings of course. The whole purpose of the tunnels under the buildings is to use civilian places as human shields. The tunnels would have been discovered during the construction process otherwise.

To try to claim that the tunnels were there first is ludicrous and just denial of Hamas using human shields.

The purpose of the tunnels have always been for militant command centres it just looks like Hamas' desperation led them to taking hostages this time and they are trying to negotiate through Qatar, but Israel wants total destruction and genocide. Those are the facts.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Well, you interpret it one way and I interpret it another. The reality is both our interpretations are true because both sides have had their bloody history and both are culpable.

NO. There is no alternate way to interpret these slogans and chants.
NO. They both are not true. There is only one meaning for them.
They are not peaceful. They are not simply 'pro palestine'.

"From the River to the Sea .... '
'Long Live Intifada ...'
'Allah Akbar ....'

From the River to the Sea - the chant used to call for the destruction of Israel and the death of the Jews.

Long live intifada - the chant used to recall the violence when thousands of people were murdered in the name of destruction of Israel and death of the Jews.

Allah Akbar - the chant used by muslim terrorists around the world when they slaughter innocent people.

Yes, there are two ways of interpretation and if you could learn the bloody history of both peoples you will be able to see both sides and why the Palestinian people chant to never surrender to the oppression of Israel.

originally posted by: quintessentone
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I think many in the world refuse (by choice or by bias or by emotional trauma) to see the truth of what is really going on not only between these two factions, but with all the other political players which are involved in different ways. What does Israel want?

Israel wants the right to existance, the right to live,

What hams wants? they want want the entire terrorist groups in the middle east to wag an endless jihad against Israel to erased them from the face of the world and history, plus punishing US for helping Israel.

And you can take that to the bank.

originally posted by: marg6043

originally posted by: quintessentone
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I think many in the world refuse (by choice or by bias or by emotional trauma) to see the truth of what is really going on not only between these two factions, but with all the other political players which are involved in different ways. What does Israel want?

Israel wants the right to existance, the right to live,

What hams wants? they want want the entire terrorist groups in the middle east to wag an endless jihad against Israel to erased them from the face of the world and history, plus punishing US for helping Israel.

And you can take that to the bank.

Israel did not follow the agreements/accords and the massacres on both sides have been ongoing for many decades. There is now an anti-Netanyahu movement happening, and why would that be?

originally posted by: quintessentone
The purpose of the tunnels have always been for militant command centres

And they place them under schools and under hospitals and under refugee centers AS HUMAN SHIELDS.

it just looks like Hamas' desperation led them to taking hostages this time

You are making excuses for the terrorist attack upon innocent people .... the torture, the burning to death, the rapes, the slaughter. Calling it 'desperation' like Hamas actually has a cause for their demonic behavior.

and they are trying to negotiate through Qatar,

And Israel rejected the demands of Hamas saying that they weren't being serious. Obviously Hamas has a laundry list of demands that are unreasonable.

but Israel wants total destruction and genocide.

If Israel wanted that .. it would have been done by now. They have the firepower to kill every living thing in Gaza, and yet only a few thousand (supposedly) have died. And they died because of HAMAS.

Those are the facts.

Nope.

a reply to: quintessentone

Not for nuthin but don't you wonder why The Hamas Army would even attack Civilians in Israel?

Turkey is all of a sudden backing Hamas, why not before?

a reply to: quintessentone

source for what?

my analysis of your graphic.... source is me and my fat butt.

originally posted by: quintessentone
Yes, there are two ways of interpretation and if you could learn the bloody history of both peoples you will be able to see both sides and why the Palestinian people chant to never surrender to the oppression of Israel.

I'm not talking about the damn Palestinians. I'm talking about the PROTESTORS. I have said it time and time again ... THE PROTESTORS. They were chanting the death of Israel chants. This is not 'peaceful protest' and being 'pro Palestinian'. It's ANTI ISREAL which is very different.

There are NOT two ways to interpret this. The words mean what they mean.

"From the River to the Sea .... '
'Long Live Intifada ...'
'Allah Akbar ....'

From the River to the Sea - the chant used to call for the destruction of Israel and the death of the Jews.

Long live intifada - the chant used to recall the violence when thousands of people were murdered in the name of destruction of Israel and death of the Jews.

Allah Akbar - the chant used by muslim terrorists around the world when they slaughter innocent people.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The purpose of the tunnels have always been for militant command centres

And they place them under schools and under hospitals and under refugee centers AS HUMAN SHIELDS.

it just looks like Hamas' desperation led them to taking hostages this time

You are making excuses for the terrorist attack upon innocent people .... the torture, the burning to death, the rapes, the slaughter. Calling it 'desperation' like Hamas actually has a cause for their demonic behavior.

and they are trying to negotiate through Qatar,

And Israel rejected the demands of Hamas saying that they weren't being serious. Obviously Hamas has a laundry list of demands that are unreasonable.

but Israel wants total destruction and genocide.

If Israel wanted that .. it would have been done by now. They have the firepower to kill every living thing in Gaza, and yet only a few thousand (supposedly) have died. And they died because of HAMAS.

Those are the facts.

Nope.

Even if Hamas did all you say, do you approve of Israeli blowing right through civilians (mostly children), hospitals, and anywhere instead of instituting tunnel warfare to actually get at Hamas?

Hamas' list of demands is exactly what was in the agreements Israel agreed to but did not honor in the past.

a reply to: quintessentone

“it just looks like Hamas' desperation led them to taking hostages this time”

You are indeed a terrorist supporter.

“A Hamas “abduction manual” with detailed instructions on how to take civilians hostage, bind them by their wrists and ankles, collect their identification papers and “kill the problematic” was released by the Israeli Defense Forces on Monday along with grisly new bodycam footage that shows Hamas fighters gunning down civilians.
The kidnapping directives — imprinted with a watermark that reads “al-Quds brigade” and labeled “Top secret” in Arabic — also include instructions on how to livestream kidnappings, a tactic that was used by some Hamas hostage takers during the Oct. 7 attack.”
“The documents also suggest that hostage-taking was a core goal of Hamas’ strike and that the group planned to document it in both photos and videos.”
www.nbcnews.com...

a reply to: quintessentone

Israel wants the total destruction of Hamas. Not genocide of Palestinians.

If that was their aim, there would be many, many more dead.

Hamas are not negotiating for peace, just using civilian hostages as bargaining chips.

Which is an actual war crime.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Yes, there are two ways of interpretation and if you could learn the bloody history of both peoples you will be able to see both sides and why the Palestinian people chant to never surrender to the oppression of Israel.

I'm not talking about the damn Palestinians. I'm talking about the PROTESTORS. I have said it time and time again ... THE PROTESTORS. They were chanting the death of Israel chants. This is not 'peaceful protest' and being 'pro Palestinian'. It's ANTI ISREAL which is very different.

There are NOT two ways to interpret this. The words mean what they mean.

"From the River to the Sea .... '
'Long Live Intifada ...'
'Allah Akbar ....'

From the River to the Sea - the chant used to call for the destruction of Israel and the death of the Jews.

Long live intifada - the chant used to recall the violence when thousands of people were murdered in the name of destruction of Israel and death of the Jews.

Allah Akbar - the chant used by muslim terrorists around the world when they slaughter innocent people.

The protesters looked to me to be Palestinians or Muslims, that is why they are chanting Allah is greatest it is their religion and does it not stand to reason they are Palestinians because they want to continue to fight for their land, their homes?

a reply to: quintessentone

Can you post that list, please?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The purpose of the tunnels have always been for militant command centres

And they place them under schools and under hospitals and under refugee centers AS HUMAN SHIELDS.

it just looks like Hamas' desperation led them to taking hostages this time

You are making excuses for the terrorist attack upon innocent people .... the torture, the burning to death, the rapes, the slaughter. Calling it 'desperation' like Hamas actually has a cause for their demonic behavior.

and they are trying to negotiate through Qatar,

And Israel rejected the demands of Hamas saying that they weren't being serious. Obviously Hamas has a laundry list of demands that are unreasonable.

but Israel wants total destruction and genocide.

If Israel wanted that .. it would have been done by now. They have the firepower to kill every living thing in Gaza, and yet only a few thousand (supposedly) have died. And they died because of HAMAS.

Those are the facts.

Nope.

Even if Hamas did all you say, do you approve of Israeli blowing right through civilians (mostly children), hospitals, and anywhere instead of instituting tunnel warfare to actually get at Hamas?

Hamas' list of demands is exactly what was in the agreements Israel agreed to but did not honor in the past.

Interesting about "agreements Israel agreed to but did not honor in the past".

Most people know nothing about this.

Can we see a list and perhaps determine impact ratings?

a reply to: quintessentone

Good lord, a sudden and controversial anti-Netanyahu movement is like saying Trump suddenly has a sudden and controversial anti-Trump movement.

It's not sudden, it's not new, and it's the same old same old taking advantage politically.

If anything, people in Israel are upset that the Israel govt failed to protect them from this evil, and will blame him for not being even more hardline.

The on going Jihad against Israel, is not only limited to Hamas palestine terrorist, but it also have Hezbollah, Al-Quaeda and the Islamic Jihad, a Palestinian militant group that is an ally of Hamas and took part in the Oct. 7 attack on Israel from Gaza,

This latest group of terrorist, has denied Israel's accusations that it was behind a strike on a hospital in Gaza that killed hundreds of people, yep the failed attacks that hit the hospital in Gaza, conveniently using propaganda to blame Israel for it.

Yep this are the type of resistant terrorist groups wagging jihad on Israel right now, well-funded, well fed, very healthy and with enough weapon, that they are getting thanks to the billions of dollars in donations from sponsored countries that support terrorist and jihad.

The islamic jihad in palestine Islamic Jihad, * Founded in the late 1970s by Fathi Shiqaqi and Abdel-Aziz Odeh, Islamic Jihad gained support among Palestinians disillusioned with Yasser Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO). Shiqaqi was assassinated in 1995 in Malta, apparently by Israeli agents.

* The group is sworn to destroying Israel and replacing it with an Islamic state spanning what was pre-1948 British Mandate Palestine, including the West Bank and Gaza, which Israel captured in the 1967 Middle East war.

Israel is not only fighting one terrorist groups on jihad of destruction against them they are fighting all terrorist groups in the middle east, all taking comfort and security, hiding among civilians within Gaza and the civilians are allowing this to happen.

And people ask what Israel should do, I tell you what Israel should do, fight to the end to eradicate all the vermins that wants them dead.

originally posted by: VermiIion
a reply to: quintessentone

“it just looks like Hamas' desperation led them to taking hostages this time”

You are indeed a terrorist supporter.

“A Hamas “abduction manual” with detailed instructions on how to take civilians hostage, bind them by their wrists and ankles, collect their identification papers and “kill the problematic” was released by the Israeli Defense Forces on Monday along with grisly new bodycam footage that shows Hamas fighters gunning down civilians.
The kidnapping directives — imprinted with a watermark that reads “al-Quds brigade” and labeled “Top secret” in Arabic — also include instructions on how to livestream kidnappings, a tactic that was used by some Hamas hostage takers during the Oct. 7 attack.”
“The documents also suggest that hostage-taking was a core goal of Hamas’ strike and that the group planned to document it in both photos and videos.”
www.nbcnews.com...

I am just stating that Hamas attack and massacre is the same as Israel has been doing to the Palestinians for decades. They both do it intermittently, try to agree to compromises, Israel continued to occupy their land...and it never ends. Teach yourself about these people's bloody histories and how other countries fund and turn a blind eye to these massacres as it suits their agendae.

originally posted by: quintessentone
The protesters looked to me to be Palestinians or Muslims, ...

So you are saying tens of thousands of muslims showed up in DC and that's the reason for the bad behavior?

TV News showed a busload of them in DC ... a bunch of socialists on a bus .. all white faces and speaking English .. all chanting 'from the river to the sea'. Not Middle Eastern Muslim looking. Not Palestinians.

USEFUL IDIOTS chanting for the destruction of Israel and the death of Jews.