Half a million people march in London for Palestine

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: quintessentone

Armistice Day means ceasefire’: voices of those heading to London’s pro-Palestine march

"I am amused and appalled by the insistence that Armistice Day is the wrong time to call for an armistice,” the lawyer in London said. “It would not be the people who died in war who would suffer any offence that hundreds of thousands of free Londoners call for less war.”

www.theguardian.com...

Yeah "the lawyer in London Said", not the millions of ordinary Brits who were in the ranks and got all the worst jobs to do in the army.

The article has many peace marchers comments and it only takes one to get the point across.

And they assume they are talking for all of us, they arent. they are a minority but a minority with a loud voice because most of us are ignored.

Eeesh, imagine if the few on here spoke for all Americans.

Which is my job, btw.

Could hardly be worse even on your most terrible day.

multiposting

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: EvanH
My entire veterans group are rerouting to London for Armistice Day. We are all Iraq/Afghanistan/Northern Ireland veterans. Not old men.

We look forward to anyone disrespecting our day to remember our dead brothers and sisters. We are also going to be joined by many thousands of ordinary Englishmen/women who have had enough of those Islamic terrorist loving pieces of crap and their useful idiot apologists.

They will face the wrath of the entire nation who outnumber every last one of them 21 to 1. The crys of "islamaphobia" and the usual bs gaslighting will fall on deaf ears. Playing the victim will be ignored.

You do not get to call for the death of Jews on British streets. Nor do you get to call fo jihad on our shores and get away with it. Nor will you desecrate a sacred day for every Britain. The days of pandering are over. We see who you REALLY are now.

Hope you all stay safe and get home all right after

As if there is a problem.
The only problem is your media that create tension between different groups and as I have learnt the attempt to cancel the anti-war march in London has failed.

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: quintessentone

Armistice Day means ceasefire’: voices of those heading to London’s pro-Palestine march

"I am amused and appalled by the insistence that Armistice Day is the wrong time to call for an armistice,” the lawyer in London said. “It would not be the people who died in war who would suffer any offence that hundreds of thousands of free Londoners call for less war.”

www.theguardian.com...

Yeah "the lawyer in London Said", not the millions of ordinary Brits who were in the ranks and got all the worst jobs to do in the army.

The article has many peace marchers comments and it only takes one to get the point across.

And they assume they are talking for all of us, they arent. they are a minority but a minority with a loud voice because most of us are ignored.

Eeesh, imagine if the few on here spoke for all Americans.

Which is my job, btw.

Could hardly be worse even on your most terrible day.

Yes especially when some members speak 'on behalf' of all Americans and argue in support of destruction and annihilation of Gaza, inciting genocide. So what? They say.... Gaza can be flattened, it's fine.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: EvanH
My entire veterans group are rerouting to London for Armistice Day. We are all Iraq/Afghanistan/Northern Ireland veterans. Not old men.

We look forward to anyone disrespecting our day to remember our dead brothers and sisters. We are also going to be joined by many thousands of ordinary Englishmen/women who have had enough of those Islamic terrorist loving pieces of crap and their useful idiot apologists.

They will face the wrath of the entire nation who outnumber every last one of them 21 to 1. The crys of "islamaphobia" and the usual bs gaslighting will fall on deaf ears. Playing the victim will be ignored.

You do not get to call for the death of Jews on British streets. Nor do you get to call fo jihad on our shores and get away with it. Nor will you desecrate a sacred day for every Britain. The days of pandering are over. We see who you REALLY are now.

Hope you all stay safe and get home all right after

As if there is a problem.
The only problem is your media that create tension between different groups and as I have learnt the attempt to cancel the anti-war march in London has failed.

You should change your name to John Snow.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: quintessentone

Armistice Day means ceasefire’: voices of those heading to London’s pro-Palestine march

"I am amused and appalled by the insistence that Armistice Day is the wrong time to call for an armistice,” the lawyer in London said. “It would not be the people who died in war who would suffer any offence that hundreds of thousands of free Londoners call for less war.”

www.theguardian.com...

Yeah "the lawyer in London Said", not the millions of ordinary Brits who were in the ranks and got all the worst jobs to do in the army.

The article has many peace marchers comments and it only takes one to get the point across.

And they assume they are talking for all of us, they arent. they are a minority but a minority with a loud voice because most of us are ignored.

Eeesh, imagine if the few on here spoke for all Americans.

Which is my job, btw.

Could hardly be worse even on your most terrible day.

Yes especially when some members speak 'on behalf' of all Americans and argue in support of destruction and annihilation of Gaza, inciting genocide. So what? They say.... Gaza can be flattened, it's fine.

Because you know nothing!

they get what they deserve

a reply to: quintessentone

They can demonstrate in Palestine.

I know you either can't or won't understand.

As has been said before: Deaf ears.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

They can demonstrate in Palestine.

I know you either can't or won't understand.

As has been said before: Deaf ears.

Deaf ears.

Really should be a policy 'round about.

a reply to: DBCowboy

We should call it Freezed Speech, and sell subscriptions to mute people.

The debates around Free Speech will be much smoother as well, with nobody listening to anyone. Wait! Not much of a change now, is it? Great business model!

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: EvanH
My entire veterans group are rerouting to London for Armistice Day. We are all Iraq/Afghanistan/Northern Ireland veterans. Not old men.

We look forward to anyone disrespecting our day to remember our dead brothers and sisters. We are also going to be joined by many thousands of ordinary Englishmen/women who have had enough of those Islamic terrorist loving pieces of crap and their useful idiot apologists.

They will face the wrath of the entire nation who outnumber every last one of them 21 to 1. The crys of "islamaphobia" and the usual bs gaslighting will fall on deaf ears. Playing the victim will be ignored.

You do not get to call for the death of Jews on British streets. Nor do you get to call fo jihad on our shores and get away with it. Nor will you desecrate a sacred day for every Britain. The days of pandering are over. We see who you REALLY are now.

Hope you all stay safe and get home all right after

As if there is a problem.
The only problem is your media that create tension between different groups and as I have learnt the attempt to cancel the anti-war march in London has failed.

You should change your name to John Snow.

And I will say again there doesn't seem to be a problem.

The only problem is your media that create tension between different groups and as I have learnt the attempt to cancel the anti-war march in London has failed.

You didn't want this to happen, you wanted the cancellation to go ahead with the anti-war protests.

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: DBCowboy

We should call it Freezed Speech, and sell subscriptions to mute people.

The debates around Free Speech will be much smoother as well, with nobody listening to anyone. Wait! Not much of a change now, is it? Great business model!

You can still speak, we just don't have an obligation to listen.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

They can demonstrate in Palestine.

I know you either can't or won't understand.

As has been said before: Deaf ears.

Apparently many protestors will demonstrate in London this weekend. Is that great?

I ve heard the system wanted to cancel the demonstration but they didn't have the guts to do so.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Apparently many protestors will demonstrate in London this weekend. Is that great?

I assure you, there are a damn sight more all over the country ready and waiting.

I ve heard the system wanted to cancel the demonstration but they didn't have the guts to do so.

Its not a question of 'guts' but rather legality.
There is no legal reason to ban the demonstration, freedom of speech and all that.
And this may or may not surprise you but I agree with that....I just think the protesters themselves should have enough common decency and respect for this country, its values and those who have served to do the right thing, show some dignity and respect and not protest this weekend.

I assure you, if they choose to disrespect or dishonour any Memorial Service there will be swift retribution.

There is an anger bubbling away under the surface at present.....people have simply had enough.

I know you will neither agree or understand, but who cares? Your opinion is irrelevant both on here at ATS and in the 'real world'.

originally posted by: Freeborn
I assure you, if they choose to disrespect or dishonour any Memorial Service there will be swift retribution.

Swift retribution? Really now?

Those who have "had enough" are as entitled to organise their own protests and voice their opinions.

Peaceful protests against war honour those who needlessly died for a peace we're all still awaiting.

You may find it useful to read the following document, the official statement from the House of Bishops of the Church of England, who will themselves be officiating Remembrance Day services this coming Sunday:

www.churchofengland.org...

And for further insight into the Church of England's position, the following report from the Right Reverend Riah Abu El-Assal, Bishop of Jerusalem written in 2018:

The Israeli occupation is not only damaging the Palestinian population, but is also
corrupting the Israeli culture, and society. An Israeli Jewish lawyer, representing
the Israeli Conscripts who refuse to serve beyond the 1967 borders says: "The
occupation has eroded our code of ethics, and it has even contaminated the Hebrew
language of the fight against the murderous and unforgivable terror that struck
Israeli cities. We have grown accustomed to check-points in which thousands of
Palestinians have been detained for hours and humiliated by young soldiers. We
have been accustomed to pointing our rifles at children and women. We have
become tolerant of large-scale demolitions of houses. Finally, we have accepted a
state-sponsored policy of assassinations, neatly labelled by Israel as 'focused
prevention'. We have learned how to distinguish between roads for settlers, and
roads for locals. We have been asked to implement discriminatory laws for the sake
of the illegal settlements that have trapped our country with war".

www.churchofengland.org...

a reply to: Freeborn

Yup there were a couple of cenotaphs vandalised by pro-palestine protestors earlier in the week which is stupid and sickening - a 14/15 year old was arrested for it in Manchester.

There's the right for peaceful protest but the organisers should have recognised how disrespectful and self defeating it is to hold protests this weekend, especially given the prior violence and extremist groups affiliated with the protests who went solely to incite terror.

If the two minute silece or cenotaphs are vandalised I think there's a decet chance the purpotrators would be beaten to death by crowds before police could get to them as it's so disrespectful.

originally posted by: bastion
If the two minute silece or cenotaphs are vandalised I think there's a decet chance the purpotrators would be beaten to death by crowds before police could get to them as it's so disrespectful.

Wow, wouldn't that be an appalling reflection of our society. Beaten to death for a crime that can be removed with a power washer.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: bastion
If the two minute silece or cenotaphs are vandalised I think there's a decet chance the purpotrators would be beaten to death by crowds before police could get to them as it's so disrespectful.

Wow, wouldn't that be an appalling reflection of our society. Beaten to death for a crime that can be removed with a power washer.

I would take the opposite view, the crime would be the desecration of the war memorial

originally posted by: SprocketUK
I would take the opposite view, the crime would be the desecration of the war memorial

No. The crime is criminal damage to a war memorial. The penalties for which are clearly defined;

www.gov.uk... al-damage-to-memorials-factsheet

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: SprocketUK
I would take the opposite view, the crime would be the desecration of the war memorial

No. The crime is criminal damage to a war memorial. The penalties for which are clearly defined;

www.gov.uk... al-damage-to-memorials-factsheet

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