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California City the first in the US to condemn Israel accusing it of 'ethnic cleansing'

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posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Leviathan4

Sure, then my favorite war crime so far was the strike on the refugee camp. Only 5 civilians to get that Hamas target. Which is way better than 20.

www.reuters.com...

Staging areas at camps.
Munitions storage at hospitals.
Tons of brainwashed cannon fodder to use.

But investigate them war crimes. See what The Hague does. Could give Israel, like so many others, some toilet paper to use.

www.icc-cpi.int...


The Preliminary Examination into Iraq/UK was initially terminated on 9 February 2006 and was re-opened on 13 May 2014 following receipt of new information.  The preliminary examination focused on alleged crimes committed by United Kingdom nationals in the context of the Iraq conflict and occupation from 2003 to 2008, including murder, torture, and other forms of ill-treatment.


I don't have 'favourite' war crimes nor I will make conversations on what was the 'best' of all.

Whoever commits war crimes and crimes against humanity must be held accountable. If the International Community is unable to held accountable the countries or groups that committ war crimes then that's another issue for another discussion.

It looks like Richmond City Council are convinced that Israel is committing war crimes and ethnic cleansing.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:03 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Leviathan4

Richmond City Resolution and the people in London and everywhere else are like minded when it comes to war and so many civilians who have died.


So it comes out to about 350 dead per day in Gaza, and that is all categories. A big part of that number is the massive level of military resources Hamas has embedded in the civilian communities that Israel needs to get rid of. No matter what Israel does civilians will die because Hamas doesn't want them to leave and many agree with Hamas and so stay. When we initially see the airstrikes we are talking 4,000+ so that comes out to less than 2 people per strike civilians or Hamas.

What this means is either Israel is really bad at killing civilians or their attacks are so precise that either zero or a few people are actually killed in these huge blasts.

You and others should be more shocked at how few are actually dying in these attacks on military targets, but then this brings up the next big point. This is the maximum of deaths moving forward as the number of air attacks drops off, so this is the worst not some constant number you and other assume will be.


Aaaaah I see....what an argument!

I should be shocked at how few Palestinians have died so far. It could have been hundreds of thousands if Israel didn't have precision weapons...

I am sure you can use this argument in the UN and educate them a little because they were confused lately and have condemned both Hamas and Israel because of their atrocities and war crimes.

So it looks like these are precision humanitarian bombings that have no intention to kill civilians. Another round of the same rhetoric that is almost the same as the rhetorics used in Iraq and Afghanistan.
edit on 29-10-2023 by Leviathan4 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:03 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Leviathan4

Sure, then my favorite war crime so far was the strike on the refugee camp. Only 5 civilians to get that Hamas target. Which is way better than 20.

www.reuters.com...

Staging areas at camps.
Munitions storage at hospitals.
Tons of brainwashed cannon fodder to use.

But investigate them war crimes. See what The Hague does. Could give Israel, like so many others, some toilet paper to use.

www.icc-cpi.int...


The Preliminary Examination into Iraq/UK was initially terminated on 9 February 2006 and was re-opened on 13 May 2014 following receipt of new information.  The preliminary examination focused on alleged crimes committed by United Kingdom nationals in the context of the Iraq conflict and occupation from 2003 to 2008, including murder, torture, and other forms of ill-treatment.


I don't have 'favourite' war crimes nor I will make conversations on what was the 'best' of all.

Whoever commits war crimes and crimes against humanity must be held accountable. If the International Community is unable to held accountable the countries or groups that committ war crimes then that's another issue for another discussion.

It looks like Richmond City Council are convinced that Israel is committing war crimes and ethnic cleansing.


Supposedly 70% of the world is demanding a ceasefire there.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Who cares what Richmond City Council thinks?

They also, as has been pointed out to you, support pushing woke LGBTQ agendas in their schools.

Do you now support that too because they do?



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

Aaaaah I see....what an argument!

I should be shocked at how few Palestinians have died so far. It could have been hundreds of thousands if Israel didn't have precision weapons...


It would be 100,000s if Israel was actually targeting civilians, or if they fought just like the Russians leveling whole towns indiscriminately using nonprecision 155 artillery.

They are precise attacks on military assets. How many people pushing genocide, or carpet bombing? Doesn't really help a crappy situation to inflate everything in a lie.
edit on x31Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:15:38 -05002023301America/ChicagoSun, 29 Oct 2023 14:15:38 -05002023 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Leviathan4

Sure, then my favorite war crime so far was the strike on the refugee camp. Only 5 civilians to get that Hamas target. Which is way better than 20.

www.reuters.com...

Staging areas at camps.
Munitions storage at hospitals.
Tons of brainwashed cannon fodder to use.

But investigate them war crimes. See what The Hague does. Could give Israel, like so many others, some toilet paper to use.

www.icc-cpi.int...


The Preliminary Examination into Iraq/UK was initially terminated on 9 February 2006 and was re-opened on 13 May 2014 following receipt of new information.  The preliminary examination focused on alleged crimes committed by United Kingdom nationals in the context of the Iraq conflict and occupation from 2003 to 2008, including murder, torture, and other forms of ill-treatment.


I don't have 'favourite' war crimes nor I will make conversations on what was the 'best' of all.

Whoever commits war crimes and crimes against humanity must be held accountable. If the International Community is unable to held accountable the countries or groups that committ war crimes then that's another issue for another discussion.

It looks like Richmond City Council are convinced that Israel is committing war crimes and ethnic cleansing.


Supposedly 70% of the world is demanding a ceasefire there.


Yes there have been several protests everywhere in the world with many asking for a ceasefire.

morningstaronline.co.uk...

Half a million march for Gaza in London as peace demos take a stand across Britain

That was in response to the discussion made earlier about how people around the world have reacted to the war.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Leviathan4

Aaaaah I see....what an argument!

I should be shocked at how few Palestinians have died so far. It could have been hundreds of thousands if Israel didn't have precision weapons...


It would be 100,000s if Israel was actually targeting civilians, or if they fought just like the Russians leveling whole towns indiscriminately using nonprecision 155 artillery.


I am sure it would have been more if Israel didn't have precision weapons....



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Leviathan4

Sure, then my favorite war crime so far was the strike on the refugee camp. Only 5 civilians to get that Hamas target. Which is way better than 20.

www.reuters.com...

Staging areas at camps.
Munitions storage at hospitals.
Tons of brainwashed cannon fodder to use.

But investigate them war crimes. See what The Hague does. Could give Israel, like so many others, some toilet paper to use.

www.icc-cpi.int...


The Preliminary Examination into Iraq/UK was initially terminated on 9 February 2006 and was re-opened on 13 May 2014 following receipt of new information.  The preliminary examination focused on alleged crimes committed by United Kingdom nationals in the context of the Iraq conflict and occupation from 2003 to 2008, including murder, torture, and other forms of ill-treatment.


I don't have 'favourite' war crimes nor I will make conversations on what was the 'best' of all.

Whoever commits war crimes and crimes against humanity must be held accountable. If the International Community is unable to held accountable the countries or groups that committ war crimes then that's another issue for another discussion.

It looks like Richmond City Council are convinced that Israel is committing war crimes and ethnic cleansing.


Supposedly 70% of the world is demanding a ceasefire there.


Yes there have been several protests everywhere in the world with many asking for a ceasefire.

morningstaronline.co.uk...

Half a million march for Gaza in London as peace demos take a stand across Britain

That was in response to the discussion made earlier about how people around the world have reacted to the war.


Half a million march! Wow when have we seen that many before? Never?



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: DBCowboy



Still not answering the question. What should have been Israel’s response?


Have a come to Jesus moment. They where a stronger culture when setting up that place. If they set up a legal standard that treated everyone the same, things would be vastly different today. Instead they took a war policy and that is what they have got.

For those that want to make this mass sacrifice, it is going to stir things up everywhere, decent more into war. Does the world really have to put up with more of this again?


Spot on!




posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

I am sure it would have been more if Israel didn't have precision weapons....


Precise weapons and intel.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Your source is the Communist rag Morning Star.

You seem to rely a lot on extreme left wingers.

Very, very strange.

Do you also support their woke agendas?



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: Leviathan4

The red cross and doctors without borders are still reporting that most of the deaths in Gaza are women and children, and that the food/water/medicine/fuel situation is still 'dire', and many hospitals are no longer able to help people, so more people will be dying from lack of services.

Netanyahu said that they will get rid Hamas from the face of the Earth so this situation will end once and for all. Is this wishful thinking since Iran is backing them up and other terrorist groups. Even if they manage to take out Hamas terrorist nests will they be able to get rid of all of them, or will they flee, regroup and do it all over again at a later date?

Remember 'damn the torpedos" well this is 'damn the hostages'.

Do the Israeli leaders really believe this is a viable strategy to rid Hamas from the face of the Earth or just more occupation?

This is a very complex situation in the Middle East as it seems most countries there (and maybe others?) have a stake in promoting their ideologies, religions, and/or land grabs.


There has been discussion here about the number of dead Palestinians as numbers may not be precise. The fact that people are dying in their thousands day by day it doesn't seem to be of a problem. Many more die as time passes and nobody gets resurrected.

It is widely accepted by the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Lawyers, the Rec Cross and everyone who is on the ground that there are many thousands of deaths and most are women and children.


Amid Increasingly Dire Humanitarian Situation in Gaza, Secretary-General Tells Security Council Hamas Attacks Cannot Justify Collective Punishment of Palestinian People


press.un.org...


Not to forget that some other members were arguing that there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza... The same official line that Israel has.
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posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:25 PM
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All those soo call "protest around the world" are mostly financed by Iran they biggest sponsor of terrorism around the world, their goal is to harvest enough idiots' sympathizers to support the terrorist in hamas palestine.

Is nothing but a darn joke, countries better open their darn eyes, because terrorist are among them.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Let the darn terrorist die from lack of health care and food, they are not human in my eyes, let them all die.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
All those soo call "protest around the world" are mostly financed by Iran they biggest sponsor of terrorism around the world, their goal is to harvest enough idiots' sympathizers to support the terrorist in hamas palestine.

Is nothing but a darn joke, countries better open their darn eyes, because terrorist are among them.


Not true, most protesting is for a ceasefire to let humanitarian aid through.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: quintessentone

For what? so the hamas terrorist can get healthy enough to keep bombing Israel?, let them all die.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: Leviathan4

The red cross and doctors without borders are still reporting that most of the deaths in Gaza are women and children, and that the food/water/medicine/fuel situation is still 'dire', and many hospitals are no longer able to help people, so more people will be dying from lack of services.

Netanyahu said that they will get rid Hamas from the face of the Earth so this situation will end once and for all. Is this wishful thinking since Iran is backing them up and other terrorist groups. Even if they manage to take out Hamas terrorist nests will they be able to get rid of all of them, or will they flee, regroup and do it all over again at a later date?

Remember 'damn the torpedos" well this is 'damn the hostages'.

Do the Israeli leaders really believe this is a viable strategy to rid Hamas from the face of the Earth or just more occupation?

This is a very complex situation in the Middle East as it seems most countries there (and maybe others?) have a stake in promoting their ideologies, religions, and/or land grabs.


There has been discussion here about the number of dead Palestinians as numbers may not be precise. The fact that people are dying in their thousands day by day it doesn't seem to be of a problem. Many more die as time passes and nobody gets resurrected.

It is widely accepted by the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Lawyers, the Rec Cross and everyone who is on the ground that there are many thousands of deaths and most are women and children.


Amid Increasingly Dire Humanitarian Situation in Gaza, Secretary-General Tells Security Council Hamas Attacks Cannot Justify Collective Punishment of Palestinian People


press.un.org...


Not to further that some other members were arguing that there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza... The same official line that Israel has.


I'll believe what the red cross and doctors without borders have to say before anyone else.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Leviathan4

I am sure it would have been more if Israel didn't have precision weapons....


Precise weapons and intel.


Still thousands of deaths despite the humanitarian bombings...


The Gaza Health Ministry said the death toll among Palestinians has passed 8,000, mostly women and minors. It's a toll without precedent in decades of Israeli-Palestinian violence.


apnews.com...



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Leviathan4

I am sure it would have been more if Israel didn't have precision weapons....


Precise weapons and intel.


Still thousands of deaths despite the humanitarian bombings...


The Gaza Health Ministry said the death toll among Palestinians has passed 8,000, mostly women and minors. It's a toll without precedent in decades of Israeli-Palestinian violence.


apnews.com...


Those numbers also do not include the dead still lying under the rubble from the bombings.



posted on Oct, 29 2023 @ 02:36 PM
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Sanders was talking about huddled unwashed masses in his run for president... Perhaps someone found them? Oh no you're ethnic no bathing for you! Might make more ethnic people or something smelling all good and in the dark.

Satire is what I am pointing at how in the world do people come up with these terms? Assimilation/re-education is what most cultural groups know it as; Meaning more people would sit up and take notice or care if worded as such instead of the portrait I gave of what that sounds like to those not really knowing but can comprehend two words together.

Those people that would sit up and notice would likely say they'll just build a museum put that heritage on display for tourists while you get running water with cable to watch telemundo or whatever... That it's easier to take that road than fight rocks with rocks... As if you get good enough at it? It'll be a polished one with your name on it.



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