California City the first in the US to condemn Israel accusing it of 'ethnic cleansing'

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Thousands break into U.N. aid warehouses in Gaza as Israel presses ground offensive


globalnews.ca...#:~:text=Thousands%20of%20people%20broke%20into,and%20Gaza's%20militant %20Hamas%20rulers.

Fact #1: humanitarian aid was in locked warehouses

Fact #2: thousands of people broke into the warehouses to get the aid

Fact #3: the aid was in the warehouses, so Hamas could not have taken it all.

a reply to: quintessentone

That’s how they got them in the first place.
They’ve always stolen the aid for themselves and will continue to do so as they are able.
Arab and western countries agree, it’s hamas method of operation and there’s no denying it.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

So it looks like these are precision humanitarian bombings that have no intention to kill civilians. Another round of the same rhetoric that is almost the same as the rhetorics used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"humanitarian bombings" are your words, not mine, so please don't relate it to me. Bombing is really bad, we are not talking about limited yield like a hellfire missile (which is still powerful), these bombings take whole buildings down, like buildings with a ton of weapons in it.

All I'm suggesting is when you look at the sheer number of airstrikes and the mass of the bombing there aren't enough dead people to suggest all these horrendous accusations against Israel. If there were only 20 airstrikes and 8000 dead I would be like holy sh!t! But, we are talking 4000+

All in all, their strategy of ethnic cleansing or to rid the Earth of all Hamas will never happen because the next faction will rise, with another name, and funded by Iran. Brings to mind that saying about cutting off the head of the snake that the body will immediately die or cut off the funding.

originally posted by: VermiIion
a reply to: quintessentone

That’s how they got them in the first place.
They’ve always stolen the aid for themselves and will continue to do so as they are able.
Arab and western countries agree, it’s hamas method of operation and there’s no denying it.

I don't argue how that fact that may be how they get their stores because the people there have always been teetering on the edge of survival.

a reply to: quintessentone

Never said that, mate. Hamas has been planning this for a long time and has being stockpiling supplies for a long time too.

A humanitarian crisis suits their propaganda well.

They don't care about ordinary Palestinians.

originally posted by: quintessentone
All in all, their strategy of ethnic cleansing or to rid the Earth of all Hamas will never happen because the next faction will rise, with another name, and funded by Iran. Brings to mind that saying about cutting off the head of the snake that the body will immediately die or cut off the funding.

What's up with all the new terms like ethnic cleansing... Killing ISIS was that ethnic cleansing?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Never said that, mate. Hamas has been planning this for a long time and has being stockpiling supplies for a long time too.

A humanitarian crisis suits their propaganda well.

They don't care about ordinary Palestinians.

I don't argue those facts, I argue they are taking the aid now, which some are saying 'what aid?' because almost none can get through.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

They don't care about ordinary Palestinians.

People just will not believe that if Hamas could kill 100k people and blame it on Israel they would do it in a heart beat.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone
All in all, their strategy of ethnic cleansing or to rid the Earth of all Hamas will never happen because the next faction will rise, with another name, and funded by Iran. Brings to mind that saying about cutting off the head of the snake that the body will immediately die or cut off the funding.

What's up with all the new terms like ethnic cleansing... Killing ISIS was that ethnic cleansing?

I was just repeating the thread's wording, yet another sensationalized click bait thread title perhaps?

I was repeating Netanyahu's words: rid the Earth of Hamas is what I have been and will be referencing.

a reply to: quintessentone

I never said Hamas took it. I was talking about their long time stockpiling.

Before they kicked all this off.

a reply to: quintessentone

I don't have much time for Netanyahu.

Neither do many Israelis.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

I never said Hamas took it. I was talking about their long time stockpiling.

Before they kicked all this off.

Right, which they got by stealing humanitarian aid from the people, is what was implied by some here.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

I don't have much time for Netanyahu.

Neither do many Israelis.

Got no time for the leader of Israel who is calling the shots? Okie dokie.

a reply to: quintessentone

Not by me?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Leviathan4

So it looks like these are precision humanitarian bombings that have no intention to kill civilians. Another round of the same rhetoric that is almost the same as the rhetorics used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"humanitarian bombings" are your words, not mine, so please don't relate it to me. Bombing is really bad, we are not talking about limited yield like a hellfire missile (which is still powerful), these bombings take whole buildings down, like buildings with a ton of weapons in it.

All I'm suggesting is when you look at the sheer number of airstrikes and the mass of the bombing there aren't enough dead people to suggest all these horrendous accusations against Israel. If there were only 20 airstrikes and 8000 dead I would be like holy sh!t! But, we are talking 4000+

The accusations against Israel are not coming from just one person but from various organisations, other countries, the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Lawyers and experts.

For example

reliefweb.int...

Damning evidence of war crimes as Israeli attacks wipe out entire families in Gaza

As Israeli forces continue to intensify their cataclysmic assault on the occupied Gaza Strip, Amnesty International has documented unlawful Israeli attacks, including indiscriminate attacks, which caused mass civilian casualties and must be investigated as war crimes.

apnews.com...

Experts say Hamas and Israel are committing war crimes in their fight

www.onmanorama.com...

Israel-Hamas war: UN raises concerns over war crimes committed on both sides

The United Nations on Friday raised concerns over the war crimes committed on both sides in the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict. The UN Human Rights Office cited forcible transfer, collective punishment and the taking of hostages as the war continued into its 21st day.

"We are concerned that war crimes are being committed. We are concerned about the collective punishment of Gazans in response to the atrocious attacks by Hamas, which also amounted to war crimes," spokeswoman Ravina Shamdasani told a press conference in Geneva.

That above says it all.

It's very very unlikely that somehow everyone is conspiring against the Jewish State because everyone is antisemitic and a Jew hater. Including the UN, Amnesty International, Lawyers, etc.

It is just true that both sides have committed war crimes.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Not by me?

This is what you posted?

Hamas has the supplies, they ain't sharing them.

I guess I assumed you meant Hamas has the humanitarian aid supplies. Did I assume wrong?

a reply to: quintessentone

It is what it is.

No, don't like him much.

But what would you do?

What do most Israelis want?

Are they rising against him?

a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, you assumed wrong.

originally posted by: quintessentone
I don't argue those facts, I argue they are taking the aid now, which some are saying 'what aid?' because almost none can get through.

It is all a little chaotic as people on the internet want everything to happen instantly.

The Israeli military said Sunday it had struck over 450 militant targets over the past 24 hours, including Hamas command centers and anti-tank missile launching positions.

377 reported killed in the last 48 hours, so once again huge number of military targets attacked low death numbers.