California City the first in the US to condemn Israel accusing it of 'ethnic cleansing'

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

It is what it is.

No, don't like him much.

But what would you do?

What do most Israelis want?

Are they rising against him?

This the same ongoing conflict in that region of the world. It just seems to me that nothing can be done to change it, ever.

originally posted by: quintessentone

I was just repeating the thread's wording, yet another sensationalized click bait thread title perhaps?

Not pointing at you, just saying every word associated with the Nazies is being dusted off and used against Israel.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, you assumed wrong.

That is unfortunate but your reply left me no choice but to make an assumption or guess as to it's meaning.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone
I don't argue those facts, I argue they are taking the aid now, which some are saying 'what aid?' because almost none can get through.

It is all a little chaotic as people on the internet want everything to happen instantly.

The Israeli military said Sunday it had struck over 450 militant targets over the past 24 hours, including Hamas command centers and anti-tank missile launching positions.

377 reported killed in the last 48 hours, so once again huge number of military targets attacked low death numbers.

I'm not following every single rocket/missile strike, are you? If so, tell me, are they targeting buildings where people will be hold up? If so, then there are the dead unaccounted for in those numbers under the rubble, is that so?

originally posted by: Leviathan4

The accusations against Israel are not coming from just one person but from various organisations, other countries, the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Lawyers and experts.

They do that every time Israel farts wrong while really horrendous events going on in other places and if you suggest they call them out too, then who cares what they say if that is all there is to it in just pointing fingers and saying oh you did a bad thing.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

I was just repeating the thread's wording, yet another sensationalized click bait thread title perhaps?

Not pointing at you, just saying every word associated with the Nazies is being dusted off and used against Israel.

I'm not using those words, I just repeated the thread title's wording, which I won't do from now on.

a reply to: quintessentone

What do you have to guess about what I meant by "long time stockpiling"?

This has been planned and prepared for a long time.

originally posted by: quintessentone
their strategy of ethnic cleansing or to rid the Earth of all Hamas .

Killing terrorists isn't 'ethnic cleansing'.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

What do you have to guess about what I meant by "long time stockpiling"?

This has been planned and prepared for a long time.

Okay but I was reading and replying to two different posters with thoughts going in two different directions, so it's easy to lose track when replies are lacking detailed referenced information.

originally posted by: quintessentone

I'm not following every single rocket/missile strike, are you? If so, tell me, are they targeting buildings where people will be hold up? If so, then there are the dead unaccounted for in those numbers under the rubble, is that so?

I'm suggesting most likely over 5000+ attacks now and only 8,000 people on all sides dead in Gaza. The last 24 hours with like 450 more attacks showed less than one person per attack, now that might be 100 in one place and zero in 100 other places, but the ratios are just not there to suggest Israel is targeting civilians or other charges.

originally posted by: quintessentone
Right, which they got by stealing humanitarian aid from the people, is what was implied by some here.

The New York Times said they stockpiled their supplies by stealing humanitarian aid.
And that is how they would do it. They don't exactly have jobs to pay for it all.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
their strategy of ethnic cleansing or to rid the Earth of all Hamas .

Killing terrorists isn't 'ethnic cleansing'.

I didn't coin that phrase and I don't know where it originated from, except from this thread's title.

I really don't know what the Israeli leaders expect to achieve with this ground force invasion but it won't change anything because it never has changed anything.

a reply to: quintessentone

I was quite clear. I don't speak for others?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Right, which they got by stealing humanitarian aid from the people, is what was implied by some here.

The New York Times said they stockpiled their supplies by stealing humanitarian aid.
And that is how they would do it. They don't exactly have jobs to pay for it all.

I am not arguing that, and it seems to me to be factual because the people there were on the brink of survival before this all started.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

I'm not following every single rocket/missile strike, are you? If so, tell me, are they targeting buildings where people will be hold up? If so, then there are the dead unaccounted for in those numbers under the rubble, is that so?

I'm suggesting most likely over 5000+ attacks now and only 8,000 people on all sides dead in Gaza. The last 24 hours with like 450 more attacks showed less than one person per attack, now that might be 100 in one place and zero in 100 other places, but the ratios are just not there to suggest Israel is targeting civilians or other charges.

What are the Israeli's striking there in Gaza? Buildings? Where are the Palestinian people hold up?

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

No, you know nothing about the UK.

Doesn't stop you from telling us what we all think though, does it?

If you knew their political agenda you wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.

Half a million demonstrated against the war. How many others are against it? Probably many more who don't demonstrate.

Never claimed that I know that you all think.

But there is support in favour of ceasefire contrary to the claims made here.

There are a lot of sick people in this world.
Either sick or dismally lacking information or the will to seek it out.

By seeking out that information I have seen things I can’t unsee.

I’m not posting any pictures and videos here because I would probably receive an instant ban, and rightly so.

Hamas chopping the head of an Israeli with a freaking garden hoe.

A young teen girl laying face down dead on her bed. Naked, her back covered in sperm and a bullet hole in her head.

Another young woman laying dead in the street, naked from the waste down, burned alive her body contorted in agony.

Numerous horrors in the Kibbutz’s. Cribs soaked in blood, dead dogs killed while protecting children, People being burned alive in their homes, children crying while their parents are being executed in front of them, families being forced to Facebook stream their abuse and murder, and much more.

Then there’s the ambulances being disabled with gunfire and mortars. The unaired videos of the horrors that the concert goers went through, and all of the kidnapping.

Hamas took bodies back into Gaza so the citizens could dance and stomp on them until they were a bloody, unrecognizable mass.

The cheering and jubilation the Gazans displayed quickly turned to indignation and victimhood once they got what was coming to them.

After seeing what I saw I now know there will be no peace. Those horrors should never be rewarded with peace.

Yah, there are sick fu*ks in this world that do this stuff and apparently there are sick fu*ks that support them.

In the west the pictures of the kidnapped Israelis are being torn down by citizens and politicians. Who the fu*k in their right mind does that?

a reply to: NorthOS

Nobody would support Hamas or Islamic Jihad's atrocities except other terrorists, the protests are for a ceasefire to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza. Simple, nothing hard to understand about it.

a reply to: quintessentone

israeli is striking legit military targets

hamas is making those places targets because they hide in them and use people and death as shields and propaganda

one is a war crime and the other isnt

I am not arguing that, and it seems to me to be factual because the people there were on the brink of survival before this all started.

then where is the mass starvation? its been 3 weeks and there arnt thousands of kids dropping dead every day because of starvation.. seems to me they were well prepared for this...

originally posted by: quintessentone

What are the Israeli's striking there in Gaza? Buildings? Where are the Palestinian people hold up?

It still doesn't discount that the death numbers are extremely low compared to the massive level of attacks. Now if you want to say Israel doesn't need to do so many, neither of us is in the command post or the intel room to say otherwise.

We saw what death tolls look like when an arrant missile hits the parking area of a hospital and the missile didn't even blow up other than the fuel cell. What did they say 100s dead... If even 10 died per attack from Israel then we would be talking 50,000 dead so far, 100 would be 500k dead.

originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: quintessentone

israeli is striking legit military targets

hamas is making those places targets because they hide in them and use people and death as shields and propaganda

one is a war crime and the other isnt

I am not arguing that, and it seems to me to be factual because the people there were on the brink of survival before this all started.

then where is the mass starvation? its been 3 weeks and there arnt thousands of kids dropping dead every day because of starvation.. seems to me they were well prepared for this...

It was three weeks without aid in a city that was once 2 million minus the numbers that evacuated, I have a difficult time believing starvation would set in in three weeks in a city that large.

Your mass starvation argument does not cut it.