Rockets fired at Israel from Gaza rocket attack terrorists have infiltrated from Gaza

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Except for the folks that have played "Call of Duty" and "know" what Hamas rockets sound like,

Yeah, that's just retarded. Using YouTube videos taken in different places with different sound equipment and different conditions, and playing them on the internet, and then saying they know what Israeli and Hamas rockets sound like. Pffft. Unless you've been actively dealing with them as a soldier, or a terrorist, or as a civilian in the war zone and has to dodge them ... you don't know. It's ridiculous.

a reply to: quintessentone
No, I don't think it is. It's more what I'd call ideological.
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Except for the folks that have played "Call of Duty" and "know" what Hamas rockets sound like,

Yeah, that's just retarded. Using YouTube videos taken in different places with different sound equipment and different conditions, and playing them on the internet, and then saying they know what Israeli and Hamas rockets sound like. Pffft. Unless you've been actively dealing with them as a soldier, or a terrorist, or as a civilian in the war zone and has to dodge them ... you don't know. It's ridiculous.

The video I posted shows the missile coming in at a high rate of speed, not falling.

a reply to: Muldar

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Mr Murray insisted: "There is some deep perversion in Britain whenever Israel is involved in a conflict, and is the word you just used proportion, proportionate proportionality, only Britain is really obsessed with this. "But if we were to decide that we should have this fetish about proportionality, then that would mean that in retaliation for what Hamas did in Israel on Saturday, Israel should try to locate a music festival in Gaza and rape precisely the number of women that Hamas raped on Saturday, kill precisely the number of young people that Hamas killed on Saturday. "They should find a town of exactly the same size as a town like Sderot and make sure they go door to door and kill precisely the correct number of babies that Hamas killed in Sderot on Saturday, and shooting precisely the same number of old age pensioners as was shot on Saturday, proportionality in conflict is a joke. "It's a very strange British concept which we've had only the Israelis in a conflict when they are attacked are expected to have precisely the proportionate response."

are you British by chance? this video(at link) pretty much sums up the absurdity of your posts on this topic . Israel gives not one sheckle for what the ICC says and so far has been using enormous restraint ,if they wanted a war crime level death toll trust me the IDF could have achieved that in hours not days. and as far as there regional enemies they have historically at least mopped the floor with multiple neighbors at once including the kingdom of saudi arabia,the at the time arab legue syria jordan and a host of others and had to be persuaded by the usa and i think the soviets from seizing the suez canal

originally posted by: quintessentone
Your video showed a missile falling, am I incorrect to expect to hear a falling sound on my video if it was indeed falling?

You aren't going to hear anything on a tv news live cam from that distance away - if they have sound at all, which I doubt, and even if there was sound ... so what? As I said, recordings taken by different equipment from different distances and in different conditions can't be compared. NO ONE HERE knows what the missiles sound like and no one hear knows what the rockets sound like. This 'listen to the rockets/airstrikes and see what they sound like is ridiculous.

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: DBCowboy
and the folks that just hate Jews.

Your the only one calling for war and death, seems like your the only one that hates them

Nice try.

I actually want them to continue living.

In Israel.

That's why I embrace the fine label some folks have given me as a "Zionist".

a reply to: quintessentone

It was traveling at a rate of knots when it malfunctioned and as you can hear it, looks like the propellant was still going.

originally posted by: quintessentone
The video I posted shows the missile coming in at a high rate of speed, not falling.

The video I posted shows the rocket coming in at a high rate of speed as well.
Rockets can fall fast. This one clearly did. It came down at an angle.
LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT WAS STILL GOING, PROPELLED, but was in the wrong direction.
But I'm just an amateur as everyone else here is and we don't know what we are looking at.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The video I posted shows the missile coming in at a high rate of speed, not falling.

The video I posted shows the rocket coming in at a high rate of speed as well.
Rockets can fall fast. This one clearly did. It came down at an angle.
LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT WAS STILL GOING, PROPELLED, but was in the wrong direction.
But I'm just an amateur as everyone else here is and we don't know what we are looking at.

What do you mean wrong direction?

a reply to: FlyersFan

It doesn't matter, people's minds are made up. Israel has done too many things portrayed as "questionable" by the world media over their history to get the benefit of doubt from any Palestine sympathizer. It's bizarre people are giving Hamas the benefit of the doubt over Israel.

They could catch it on camera and it still won't be enough.

There's now multiple angles.

I don't think it was a fallen ordinance, I think it was timed with it and shot at directly.

Has this been confirmed as same explosion? Anyone know?

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originally posted by: quintessentone
What do you mean wrong direction?

Did you see it? Sideways and down. Not up and out like the rest were.
Looked like it was going fast. maybe still propelled.
Like I said, I'm not an expert and no one here knows what they are looking at.

For crying out loud, just look at it yourself. Its' very clear.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The video I posted shows the missile coming in at a high rate of speed, not falling.

The video I posted shows the rocket coming in at a high rate of speed as well.
Rockets can fall fast. This one clearly did. It came down at an angle.
LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT WAS STILL GOING, PROPELLED, but was in the wrong direction.
But I'm just an amateur as everyone else here is and we don't know what we are looking at.

What do you mean wrong direction?

Hamas rockets are usually aimed at civilian population centers, this one wasn't.

a reply to: quintessentone
a reply to: FlyersFan

Just perspective, trying to read the conversation, im pretty sure you are both talking about different videos

a reply to: datguy

He's asking me about the Channel 12 footage that I posted earlier.
It shows the rocket barrage taking off.
It shows one failing and coming down in a lower arc.
It shows the explosion at the hospital.
No sound that I know of.

He's got some other footage.

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: quintessentone
a reply to: FlyersFan

Just perspective, trying to read the conversation, im pretty sure you are both talking about different videos

I just watched a third video by Degradation33 and it's even more difficult to figure it out.

originally posted by: quintessentone
I just watched a third video by Degradation33 and it's even more difficult to figure it out.

The channel 12 footage from their live cam isn't difficult at all. Its' all very clear.
You can see the rocket barrage. You can see the one fail and come down.
You can see the hospital explosion.
I've posted it here already .. don't know how many pages back.

I've heard uncomfirmed reports that IDF ground invasion is imminent, if not already underway.
Could be fake news though.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
I just watched a third video by Degradation33 and it's even more difficult to figure it out.

The channel 12 footage from their live cam isn't difficult at all. Its' all very clear.
You can see the rocket barrage. You can see the one fail and come down.
You can see the hospital explosion.
I've posted it here already .. don't know how many pages back.

Your Channel 12 footage is difficult to figure out, it's dark and far away.

www.dailymail.co.uk... -air-moments-devastating-explosion-hospital-killed-hundreds.html

Degradation33's video may actually show evidence of a malfunctioning missile above the hospital but we don't see the missile actually falling into the hospital. Although the timing would suggest it was from the same missile and there was also another hit in the background just before the hospital strike.

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The Associated Press video is the closest shot.

www.nytimes.com...

originally posted by: quintessentone
Your Channel 12 footage is difficult to figure out, it's dark and far away.

Maybe for you. Seems pretty clear to most everyone.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Your Channel 12 footage is difficult to figure out, it's dark and far away.

Maybe for you. Seems pretty clear to most everyone.

Not really that's why others are looking for and posting other videos for comparison and discussion.