Rockets fired at Israel from Gaza rocket attack terrorists have infiltrated from Gaza

a reply to: quintessentone

Maybe, because these rockets are very mobile and had only just been launched?

a reply to: quintessentone

What if an IDF missile malfunction mid-air and fell, could the same scenario happen, that being, the fuel igniting?

I thought you were all about EVIDENCE and facts?
Seems to me you're peddling nothing more than 'what if's' here.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I still think it’s Space Vampires.

But that begs the question, are Space Vampires Jewish?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

What if an IDF missile malfunction mid-air and fell, could the same scenario happen, that being, the fuel igniting?

I thought you were all about EVIDENCE and facts?
Seems to me you're peddling nothing more than 'what if's' here.

I am asking for facts.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Maybe, because these rockets are very mobile and had only just been launched?

Logical reasoning, thank you.

What about after the hotel bombing, any proof IDF were not trying to take out this Hamas nest?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

i guess it would depend where it landed?
I would think there would be no crater if one landed on a building.

I can only assume the fires started were from the fuel in the many burned out cars in the images, regardless of what hit them or where it came from, just guessing though i have not seen any pictures or video of the hospital itself

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: quintessentone

There is this to consider as well

As Israeli jets devastate Gaza, air force photos show fighter aircraft armed with what look like unguided 'dumb' bombs

Maybe @Zaphod58 could shed some light on this issue but im sure he is avoiding this thread like the plaugue...

To update, I showed the video to Zaph and asked what he thought. He agreed it's unlikely the rocket was shot down by Iron Dome.

Most likely it simply failed in flight and fell on the hospital.

Posted by Face23785 yesterday.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: quintessentone
It is stated that both (sides) claims can not be independently verified.?

Who is saying that? Seems Israels story checks out. Hamas ... not so much.

a reply to: quintessentone

You asking for facts that fit your preconceived opinion and ignoring facts that oppose them.

By the by, in that particular post you quite clearly started with a 'What if'.....which suggests to me at least that you're trying to find a solution to fit your narrative.

Anyway, I've got a case of ice cold Peroni calling my name....I know its a school night and I shouldn't but?

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: quintessentone

There is this to consider as well

As Israeli jets devastate Gaza, air force photos show fighter aircraft armed with what look like unguided 'dumb' bombs

Maybe @Zaphod58 could shed some light on this issue but im sure he is avoiding this thread like the plaugue...

To update, I showed the video to Zaph and asked what he thought. He agreed it's unlikely the rocket was shot down by Iron Dome.

Most likely it simply failed in flight and fell on the hospital.

Posted by Face23785 yesterday.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I tried to avoid this thread too but inquiring mind wants to know.

a reply to: datguy

It landed in the hospital car park.

Where the small crater is.

If it landed on a building, which it didn't, the building would be very damaged. As we have established, the hospital isn't.

Very few cars are actually moved from their spaces.

Plenty of videos posted.

Suggest you have a look at them?

originally posted by: quintessentone
What if an IDF missile malfunction mid-air and fell, could the same scenario happen, that being, the fuel igniting?

The video clearly shows the terrorist missiles being launched and one malfunctioning and falling.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
What if an IDF missile malfunction mid-air and fell, could the same scenario happen, that being, the fuel igniting?

The video clearly shows the terrorist missiles being launched and one malfunctioning and falling.

So the Israeli military were not firing back or firing at all?

a reply to: FlyersFan

Yes, but, evil Jewish Hollywood CGI?

Obviously?

Well, I've had an interesting afternoon.
I have just returned from mty second visit to a client and it turns out she is Jewish.
We didn't discuss the hospital, but rather the bigger picture.
This lady went back to Israel every summer holidays and an extended stay one particular summer. She has relatives living there including a cousin who is a nurse.
We both agreed that the Palestinians of Gaza have a gun held to their heads, metaphorically and actually by Hammas. "Do as I say or you are dead" sort of thing. Because of Hammas, they are also living in fear of the Israeli's as they never know when the Israeli's will strike to flush Hammas or the Islamic Jihad out.
She also told me that there are many different 'factions' of Jews who are just as extreme as Hammas and treat the Palestinians appallingly.
Over the last 12 months, Israel has been making massive headway with the Palestinians (not the terrorists) to the point Palestinians were allowed work permits to go into Israel to work and many other things.
I noticed a change in her 'tone' though when she mentioned Iran.
Want to know the one thing that really surprised me? Her brother (also obviously a Jew) hates them, the Israeli's, he has absolutely nothing to say and will not even discuss the topic. He blames all the problems in Israel squarely on Israel's past hoistory and the mess they face is completely of their own doing. His sister (my client) is very measured though and clearly sees the difference between Palestinian's, who she has no grudge with, and extremist organisations such as Hammas, who she tracks back to Iran.
This is a Jewish lady who doesn't blame the Palestinian people at all with what is going on.
She said nobody likes Netanyahu in Israel and the only reason he keeps getting re-elected is because he is ex-military and the Israeli people feel threatened being surrounded on all sides by Arab states refardless of their main religion's e.g., Lebannon being Christian for example. As she said, "being an Arab doesn't automatically make you a Muslim".
Just thought I would share as some people here don't seem to be able to distinguish the difference between a race of people (Palestinians) with a gun pointed at their heads and the extremists who are holding said gun and claim to 'represent them' (Hammas et all)
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

What "missiles" are the IDF using?

The evidence points to a Hamas rocket fired at Israel from Gaza.

Also, there is no large crater which there would be if this had been an IDF munition.

The fireball seems more consistent with the rockets fuel igniting.

Quick, start an argument about mechanical chemical and electrical functions of a rocket ! That’ll bollox up the thread !

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

You asking for facts that fit your preconceived opinion and ignoring facts that oppose them.

By the by. in that particular post you quite clearly started with a 'What if'.....which suggests to me at least that you're trying to find a solution to fit your narrative.

Anyway, I've got a case of ice cold Peroni calling my name....I know its a school night and I shouldn't but?

What if can also ask for other scenarios or facts that others may not have thought of or haven't yet investigated.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

i am about to watch the one combatmaster just dropped, but i am going with questions already. The one picture i have seen is the one with the burned out cars, i did not consider the "crater" to be the small impact site in the image.
how did that kill 500 people? ... ill stop asking questions until after i see more.
Edit: this is addressed within the first 4 minutes of Bens video.....

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

You asking for facts that fit your preconceived opinion and ignoring facts that oppose them.

By the by. in that particular post you quite clearly started with a 'What if'.....which suggests to me at least that you're trying to find a solution to fit your narrative.

Anyway, I've got a case of ice cold Peroni calling my name....I know its a school night and I shouldn't but?

What if can also ask for other scenarios or facts that others may not have thought of or haven't yet investigated.

Like I said: Space Vampires

a reply to: angelchemuel

Is this conflict religious in nature, did you get that feeling?