New Florida law allows the death penalty for child rapists

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

On it's face, it's controversial because the Florida law defies a recent SCOTUS ruling.

Kennedy v. Louisiana, 554 U.S. 407 (2008), is a landmark decision by the Supreme Court of the United States which held that the Eighth Amendment's Cruel and Unusual Punishments Clause prohibits the imposition of the death penalty for a crime in which the victim did not die and the victim's death was not intended.

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It's also controversial, because rape is a controversial subject.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Rape is a controversial subject?

I guess. I pretty much thought everyone agreed that rape, particularly child rape, is a heinous, violent crime.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

It can be.

Look at all the Russell Brand threads on here!

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I don't know that rape is controversial, even tho' Brand is.

If 'rape' isn't claimed in a timely fashion by the victim, then that introduces controversy. Yes. As it should.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The only thing that can be considered "controversial" about rape is that too often accusations are the basis for people getting their entire lives destroyed whether they are true or not. And if they are not true there is no hope to get back the life you lost

a reply to: PorkChop96

True, but that applies to other accusations too.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

But we are only talking about rape here

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I would wager that the most often used false accusation is rape or sexual assault.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

There are many reasons for delay.

Not least our Police and lack of confidence in them as per their poor record of taking victims seriously and very low successful prosecution record.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Delaying doesn't make success any easier.

Some delay may have justifiable reasons, yes. YEARS? NO

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Child abuse.

Legal aid for custody cases in divorce was done away with here some time ago.

Except where allegations of child abuse are made.

Unsurprisingly, these have risen, a lot.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I don't know that rape is controversial, even tho' Brand is.

If 'rape' isn't claimed in a timely fashion by the victim, then that introduces controversy. Yes. As it should.

Correct.

And very difficult to prove after 15-20 years.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

There's no limitation. Why not years?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Sush!

a reply to: Muldar

How about the successful prosecution of former Nazi camp guards, decades later?

a reply to: Muldar

What?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Russell Brand is accused of child abuse?

Women have a responsibility to other women to report rape. If a woman makes the choice, near the time of the rape, to stay silent about it, she is going to have to live with that decision. If she later changes her mind, the loss of credibility, real evidence and all the other problems caused by her delay, should not be taken lighty, nor dismissed.

I don't know why this is controversial.

If it's a child, that is whole other ballgame, and why I think the penalty should be harsh.

Its been said, however, that when penalties are so harsh, that rapists kill their victims with more motivation.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Because it is not fair to the accused to try to put up a defense after all those years.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: ArMaP

Not to be devils advocate here, but what stops them from killing them in the first place?

Usually those that are child molesters could easily kill their victims but don't. Why do you think that is? (serious question, not just being a d bag)

Because that's not their original intention.

a reply to: ArMaP

Exactly

Most of the time, these predators will "repeat" to the same victim multiple times. Why would they throw away that chance?

If they were going to kill at all, one would assume they would do that from the beginning. Knowing that when convicted, most child rapists don't last too long in prison before they are taken care of by others inside.