Gov. Newsom signs $20/hr fast food minimum wage

a reply to: odd1out

Pouring more gas on a fire isn't going to put it out.

Another nail in CAs coffin.

CA has already lost 5 house seats.

Newsom is an idiot.

But he keeps trying to steal the headlines. His appearance at the GOP debate was hysterical. He looked like a Mean Girl in High School.

originally posted by: DaRAGE
Are you guys serious? $20 x 40hrs = $800.
$800 x 52 weeks = $41,600 per year, before tax.

You guys make it sound like its a lot. It’s really not. What do you want them to make $7.50 an hour? Do you want them on welfare?

When I worked in fast food, it was after school and weekends. I lived at home and rode a bike to work. Thankfully, I got an education and had a reasonably good job by the time I got married many years later. Fast food shouldn't be a career goal. If your trying to support yourself or worse, a family, on a single income you can't expect to work in fast food.

originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry
a reply to: Solvedit

I fully support this

Well surprise, surprise!

Rotflmao! as they who work in that industry already have to deal with crappy people all day yet are expected to pay bills while going through school and possibly helping to support other family members that may be unable to work or are just too young.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: DaRAGE
Are you guys serious? $20 x 40hrs = $800.
$800 x 52 weeks = $41,600 per year, before tax.

You guys make it sound like its a lot. It’s really not. What do you want them to make $7.50 an hour? Do you want them on welfare?

Low paying jobs are not intended for adults to raise a family on, They are low-skilled jobs intended for young people earning their way through college or saving for their first car while living at home.

Anyone who doesn't understand this is part of the problem.

So in the state of California whom many families are already struggling and many kids working these jobs put some money back into the family are expected to save for a vehicle are now expected to not help their family and save either for schooling or a vehicle on less pay?
Did ya thing that comment through or just decide to jump on the bandwagon being thrown around here?

originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry
a reply to: marg6043


So now the GOP is against higher wages

Sane people are for allowing the free market to establish wages appropriate to the job.

But, I'll admit that it is very easy for t he low IQ to distort reality and twist facts to make it appear so, so good job on that front.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Let me help ya out here.
Those that are not young that work fast food tend to put that money back into the playing field because of a tendency to purchase goods to make life seem easier. It's not like they can really save up so they get things like tv or videos games and other couple hundred dollar things. That directly puts money back into the system and helps drives aspects of the economy. Now is it responsible? Well that would depend on that particular person's wants/needs and obligations. But it is still money spent rather than saved. And that is a driving aspect of a working economy.
So since you guys want to lower that spending power and drive them more into being reliant on government programs you are essentially driving the economy down.
Does that make sense?

What about people making 20/hr in other industries or even in fast food industries?

Are they going to get raises also?

a reply to: FamCore

Franchise owners will pivot to automation to save costs and a lot of those people will be out of a job in a few years.

Based on comments at the WSJ about this story automation seems to be the next new idea for these fast food restaurants. I can't quite envision however that works but apparently it's being rolled out biggly in CA.

The other "trend" mentioned in the WSJ article is to the effect that this has ended "fast food" as we knew it. Apparently the franchisees now try to get along with the fewest number of staff on shift and the result has been 15 minute or more wait times in the drive thru's.

a reply to: DBCowboy

According to people here anyone that isn't in that industry is already making more money.

Honestly IMHO I would do away with the minimum wage.
Just my opinion, but here we are.

a reply to: DBCowboy

But what the folks here are doing and if they go out and project their options others it won't garnish votes. Kinda shooting oneself in the foot.

a reply to: DBCowboy

According to articles I've read, the legislation enacts some sort of commission that will govern pay and workplace standards for the fast food restaurants. The commission will be made up of franchise owners and employees and yes, each year they'll review the pay scale and enact raises accordingly.

a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

Instead of hiring 10 people at 15/hr, Newsome will now own higher unemployment when companies fire 3 people to make up for it.

a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

Here is something that makes even more sense:

A hamburger has a limited value. If you cannot sell that hamburger for what it costs in LABOR to produce that hamburger, what will you do to keep your business open?

Think hard, come back and answer what you would do as a hamburger seller when people stop buying your overpriced hamburgers.

originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry
a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Does that make sense?

Not from the standpoint of low-skilled jobs = low paying jobs = entry level jobs = not intended for adults as a way to earn a living for life.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
That'll kill all the fast food restaurants and the jobs.
What a dumb thing to do.

Just add it to the list. The left is purposely scuttling the economy. When it goes pop, which could be any day now, some people will be quite angry with others. Go long on safe rooms.

a reply to: Solvedit

if anything, it will draw in the unskilled labor, this will also more create tax revenue across the state.
That will mean more money in the state budget to give him and his cronies a raise while the increase in pay rates for the poor do nothing to stop the corporate rape of the people and the land. Soon, as pointed out, prices will for these items will increase, its already cheaper here in Florida to buy healthy food from the grocery store than it is to buy cheap crap filler meals.
But the people will be mad if they cant get Mc D's because "instant gratification" lazy useless people....
(DTOM is gonna censor me again) because its time for these useless people to just go away ... bring on the population control

The best thing that could happen is for all these restaurants to close down and for people to get back to feeding themselves with proper nutritional meals.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
That'll kill all the fast food restaurants and the jobs.
What a dumb thing to do.

The plan all along. Communism is all about minimalism

Good, it should be at LEAST $20 hour - for all industries - at the National level.

And we shouldn't be allowed to buy products made overseas, unless the workers make enough to meet a minimum standard of living.

If the minimum wage would have had automatic cost of living increases, it would have been more than that.

Wage increases/decreases do not automatically get passed on to consumers - this is a lie.
Real world results prove it.

Real wages have been going down for years, have things become cheaper? Nope, prices increased.
Differences in wages get passed on to the CEO - not the consumers.

a reply to: Daughter2

this line of thought completely ignores the reason the issue is even being discussed at all.

People need the increase in min. wage because of corporate greed, why isn't there a limit on that?

You really think the CEO is gonna take a pay cut? or that the institutional investors will take a loss? your clearly not thinking straight. Wages have been going up, just not at the federal level, but nearly every state has a higher min, wage than the fed. rate.
and product prices keep going up.

So here is Newsome "solving" yet another problem! What a waste of time! Who in their right mind would buy fast food in CA? Gonna dodge the homeless and hope no one broke into your car while you are inside eating? Many issues plague CA and this helps none of them.