Trump Committed Fraud By Inflating His Assets, Judge Rules

a reply to: Lazy88

That's the crux of this biscuit!

a reply to: Annee

It may be old and tired, but it's still factual and it's still a travesty.

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Heroes who emerge victorious after fighting off evil and repression are Loved and revered. Donald Trump will be on Mount Rushmore.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

The representative from the bank testified that they didn't have the tools to valuate the kinds of properties Trump was trying to claim as collateral so they largely relied on the numbers being provided by Trump.

Then that representative obviously lied. The tools they use are licensed appraisers DUH! You are a pretender and a bad one at that.
"A licensed appraiser is hired by your lender to act as a third party that will independently assess your property and determine its value. That way, both you and your lender know that the appraisal has been created without bias toward either party."

There is no such thing as "we didn't have the tools". That is incredibly stupid and unprofessional to even suggest such a thing, but then we are dealing with extreme cases of Trump hatred, and those people have been lobotomized by their own hatred and lack of morals.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

It may be old and tired, but it's still factual and it's still a travesty.

A judge follows law. That's your FACT.

Just because you think it's a personal vendetta does not make it so.

a reply to: Annee

So it's factual that judges are perfect and ALWAYS follow the law?

Good to know!

a reply to: Annee

If judges followed law, there wouldn't be any appeals courts overturning judges' decisions would there.

If judges weren't political, they wouldn't run for elected judgeships as (R)s or (D)s, and wouldn't be appointed by biased (R)s and (D)s would they.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Heroes who emerge victorious after fighting off evil and repression are Loved and revered. Donald Trump will be on Mount Rushmore.

I cannot wait to see his combover on that mountain looking at the other 3.
They saved space for his head

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: VermiIion
a reply to: Threadbarer

You go buy a new car off the lot and you get such a smoking deal that you can hardly believe it. 5k below sticker and 0% financing. #feelsgoodman
You pay the thing off, no late payments, no missed payments and all is well.
The state later comes in and says you’re a fraud and a liar for getting such a good deal on that car that we’re going to take your car and fine you.

You’re ok with this scenario?
Or only because it involves trump?

If laws were broken.

The responsible person is liable.

Pretty basic.

Pelosi for Jan.6 treason comes to mind

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: VermiIion
a reply to: Threadbarer

You go buy a new car off the lot and you get such a smoking deal that you can hardly believe it. 5k below sticker and 0% financing. #feelsgoodman
You pay the thing off, no late payments, no missed payments and all is well.
The state later comes in and says you’re a fraud and a liar for getting such a good deal on that car that we’re going to take your car and fine you.

You’re ok with this scenario?
Or only because it involves trump?

If laws were broken.

The responsible person is liable.

Pretty basic.

Pelosi for Jan.6 treason comes to mind

Are Police Seeking the Removal of Nancy Pelosi for Treason?

FALSE:
In late January 2019, amidst a continuing impasse between Democrats and Republicans over what steps should be taken to secure the U.S.-Mexico border, an editorial titled "Police Are Now Seeking the Removal of Nancy Pelosi" was published on the website Law Enforcement Today.

SNOPES: www.snopes.com...

a reply to: Annee


www.snopes.com...


I checked snopes and found nothing about Webb Hubbel being false about being Chelsea's real father.
This was the closest I could find.
But if snopes didn't debunk it it must be true.
Thanks for playing.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Heroes who emerge victorious after fighting off evil and repression are Loved and revered. Donald Trump will be on Mount Rushmore.

No-one will be added to Mount Rushmore and those who think otherwise are ignorant about the nature of the mountain. The sculpture is incomplete as it is - in the visitor's centre there's a model of what it was planned to look like, with the bodies carved as well as the faces. They never completed it because the mountain is riddled with fractures and is unstable. Nothing can be added to it.
Oh and there is no way in hell that the Lakota Sioux, to whom the surrounding Black Hills are sacred, will allow that piece of slime to be added to the mountain, even if it was possible to add anything.

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

No judges are not always correct. That's why appeals exist. If Trump loses his appeal will you admit Engoron was correct?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

It may be old and tired, but it's still factual and it's still a travesty.

A judge follows law. That's your FACT.

Just because you think it's a personal vendetta does not make it so.

Which has what to do if a judge has the historical knowledge and financial experience to determine if trump overvalued his property when supposedly a financial institution couldn’t audit his property to determine a proper loan contract to protect their investors and customers?

a reply to: Lazy88

Judges don't need to be experts on the matters they are ruling on. If they did, there would be a lot of crimes that just couldn't be ruled on. That's the whole point of expert witnesses.

The prosecution's expert witnesses testified that the actions of Trump Org were beyond the norm and seemed like an attempt to defraud the banks for millions of dollars.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

Judges don't need to be experts on the matters they are ruling on. If they did, there would be a lot of crimes that just couldn't be ruled on. That's the whole point of expert witnesses.

The prosecution's expert witnesses testified that the actions of Trump Org were beyond the norm and seemed like an attempt to defraud the banks for millions of dollars.

So the headline is wrong?

A judge found Trump committed fraud in building his real-estate empire. Here’s what happens next
apnews.com...

Again. The bank giving the load couldn’t determine fraud?

But now it can?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

Judges don't need to be experts on the matters they are ruling on. If they did, there would be a lot of crimes that just couldn't be ruled on. That's the whole point of expert witnesses.

The prosecution's expert witnesses testified that the actions of Trump Org were beyond the norm and seemed like an attempt to defraud the banks for millions of dollars.

LOL, and when you lie, it makes me smile.

Remember, the Judge ruled on this BEFORE he heard any expert witnesses. DERP!

a reply to: Threadbarer

will you if it goes the other way?

Thread.

Tell me you got TDS without telling me you got TDS.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

Judges don't need to be experts on the matters they are ruling on. If they did, there would be a lot of crimes that just couldn't be ruled on. That's the whole point of expert witnesses.

The prosecution's expert witnesses testified that the actions of Trump Org were beyond the norm and seemed like an attempt to defraud the banks for millions of dollars.

I doubt you will be honest here, it's not something I've seen much of on the left. But do you honestly believe in your heart of hearts, that Trump org is the only business to operate like this in NYC?