Hard-right Republicans push closer to a disruptive federal shutdown

a reply to: JinMI

On topic would be nice?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

On topic would be nice?

A coherent line of logic, critical thinking and ability to engage would also be nice.

Guess we both are disappointed....

a reply to: JinMI

Like, maybe, how Trump doesn't have any political influence?

That sort of logic, critical thinking, logic, and ability to engage?

Without unpleasant snark?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

That's the strawman you created.

Why are you responding to me instead of the strawman poster?

a reply to: JinMI

Oh. Was I not responding to you?

"A coherent line of logic, critical thinking and ability to engage would also be nice.

Guess we both are disappointed...."


Not you?

My apologies.

a reply to: JinMI

Hiya.

Maybe you don't know, but some posters are in different time zones.

It's late here in the UK.

So I m off to bed.

Off you go, accuse me of running away?

As you do.

Good night.

Carry on.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Fine.

Run away.

Rest well on your pillow, assumedly to also be filled with straw.

Nightnight.

a reply to: JinMI

Christ.

It's late here?

Cheers for being a total... Well, you know?

Run away? This bs again?

Good night.

It's late here

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

Christ.

It's late here?

Cheers for being a total... Well, you know?

Run away? This bs again?

Good night.

It's late here

W


Anchor?

originally posted by: Mahogany
Meanwhile, under the Capitol, in the Freedom Caucus dungeon:

The message is right.

The images...well, chalk it up to projection?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Carpy, what would happen to the UK if Parliament shut down for a few weeks?

what is illegal about congress people voting no on extravagant luscious spending bills and causing a government shutdown?

a reply to: Mahogany

Someone tell these domestic traitors that their oath says they will DEFEND THE GOVERNMENT, not DEFUND THE GOVERNMENT.

They swear to defend the Constitution, actually.

As far as defending, and properly funding, the government, the US has seen over two decades of gross over spending and borrowing at the hands of these clowns. They have had decades to find a sustainable path forward, but have continuously choose to do the opposite. I won't even get into how long it's been since Congress actually passed a budget, let alone did so on time.

The $33 trillion of debt they put themselves in, along with the raising interest rates, is not only unsustainable, but the current interest payments are a massive drain on US finances. This reckless behavior also contributed to inflation. If the US continues the reckless spending and borrowing, inflation and interest rates will continue to climb, and at this rate, the US could face a default or even a bankruptcy in the near future. How would those events effect the funding, defense, and future of the US?

US Debt Clock

I feel sorry for everyone who is dependent on a government that can't figure out fiscal responsibility.

There's more information about this topic here:
The US Government is Headed Towards Another Shut Down

Including a link to an article, from a month ago, where Goldman Sachs is saying that a shutdown is likely.

I know Marjorie Taylor Green isn’t the sanest Republican but I like the reason she’s voting no to government funding.

Leaders hope that by amending the Defense and Homeland Security Department bills on the floor, they can appease certain objectors with policy concerns. Most notably, McCarthy said the House would remove any funding for Ukraine from existing legislation and put it up as a separate vote, a singular concession to earn the support of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.). In a video posted Friday on X, the social media network formerly known as Twitter, Greene said she was mad at leadership because she has consistently said she would not support spending any money on Ukraine, only to be finally taken seriously after she voted against starting debate on the Defense Department bill Thursday. “All week long I have been saying, ‘Take the money out and I will vote for it.’ But they didn’t respect me, they didn’t respect other people, they didn’t respect the American people,” she said. Greene voted Tuesday to advance the Defense Department bill, but switched her vote to no on Thursday.

Funding Ukraine shouldn’t be tied in with government funding. Some of those “Far right” republicans want Ukraine funding to be a separate vote on its own.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Threadbare

Amazing.

With Trump out of office and this kind of influence (which has yet to be defined) why should he even run for office then....

That is a very good question in regards to him ever running for POTUS again.
I personally think he could achive more through influence on the MAGA vote folks when not in ofiice.
Now if I agree with his ongoings doesn't effect that fact. But with him full on running puts our republic at a stand off.
Other appointments would benefit his future aspects in a more legal and much more respected manner.

a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

Now apply the logic to say..


...Obama.

The government shutdown is occuring because both sides want to have their own special extravagant gift we didn't approve of, but they can't both afford to have the Lamborghini and 12 jetpacks they wanted, so they don't want the other guy to win.
Don't worry, they'll figure out a spending bill that leaks money and pays them a lot but doesn't benefit us at all.
They're just learning how to share.

Also, it could be that the dems think people deserve a living wage, and the repubs are having seizures and huffing.
Either way, this happens every time, so I still don't get why the "government shutdown" is even news anymore.

a reply to: WingDingLuey

originally posted by: TheValeyard

Also, it could be that the dems think people deserve a living wage, and the repubs are having seizures and huffing.

a reply to: WingDingLuey

The dems are doing everything possible to make sure a living wage is off the table for as many people as possible, while telling you that you deserve a living wage. Sort of like retroactive abortion.

The party in general is not. Maybe the policy makers are. IDK.
I do hear a lot of repubs that oppose that legislation though. They're the ones literally saying they oppose it.
I'm just gonna wait and see like I always do.
The shutdown always goes down the same way.
IDC anymore.
I'm just waiting for Russia and China to invade so I can make a friend and share some vodka.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Or you can hear it from Gaetz himself, starting around 3:00