Yevgeny Prigozhin killed in plane crash near Moscow

originally posted by: Untame
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Because, of course, everything involving international affairs is exactly as it appears.

It appears a plane crashed in Russia , it may have been accidentally shot down by an air defence battery ... that's how it appears but in reality it was likely a political assassination of a man who embarrassed the Tsar of Russia.

originally posted by: Untame
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Because, of course, everything involving international affairs is exactly as it appears.

It does appear to be for some, but the quote is quite ironic when you consider previous form.

Anyway, I was never convinced the Wagner coup was a Wagner coup. It seemed to cause the desired effect in the western media. Might well have been an attempt to flush out disloyalty within the Kremlin.

This could be another play for another reason. Guess we will only know if Prezorghin turns up again.

Wreckage appears to have some interesting holes and marks, possibly consisted with bullet of bomb fragments. But really it’s not possible to say at this point. Might be an interesting few days coming up.

Couple questions.

How long does it take a plane crash site to cool down?

How long does it take to identify a plane crash victim?


Is it less than 6 hours or so combined?


Thanks for humoring a moron.

I'm going with CIA (Mossad), with a bomb.

More important to any State than the casualties involved is the optics generated. It is about the how the narrative both persuades and demoralizes.

Notice the blast cloud lingering in the air with no missile trail.

twitter.com...

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
He was a marked man from the moment he stood down from the march on Moscow.

Cheers

But why go into the mouth of the beast? It was reported that he and his mercs went back to Africa, and then this.

originally posted by: Untame
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Because, of course, everything involving international affairs is exactly as it appears.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck? And so on.

a reply to: Untame

Eyewitnesses reported two smoke trails before the plane came down. Missile trails aren’t going to go all the way to where they hit the plane. They burn through all their fuel before they get to the target, so the smoke trail is fairly short.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Untame
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Because, of course, everything involving international affairs is exactly as it appears.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck? And so on.

Yes, but, you’ve quite often suggested the exact opposite in certain threads. Quite amusing really. And I’m not talking about this as you know.

Simple truths are.

a). It’s most likely Putin’s cold revenge
b). A staged event to hide Prezorgin for some reason
c). An outside hit by a 3rd party who knows where the blame for this will land.

originally posted by: JinMI
Couple questions.

How long does it take a plane crash site to cool down?

Depends on the plane, how much fuel is involved, how it came down, were there firefighters on scene and how quickly were they there, and a number of other unknowns.

How long does it take to identify a plane crash victim?

Again, depends on a lot of factors. Where were they sitting on the plane? How much debris was thrown around in the cabin (debris can cause a lot of damage to bodies as it flies around the cabin), how did the plane hit the ground?

Is it less than 6 hours or so combined?

They have an idea as soon as they plane hits the ground, based on the manifest. Physical identification will take longer depending on the state of the remains that are recovered. They're only getting body parts back, not an entire body, so it will depend on what they recover and if they have to go through DNA or physical characteristics.


Thanks for humoring a moron.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: DBCowboy

Hillary??!

More like how did he cross Putin?

Isn't it obvious?

That's what Hillary wants you to think.

originally posted by: JinMI
Couple questions.

How long does it take a plane crash site to cool down?

How long does it take to identify a plane crash victim?


Is it less than 6 hours or so combined?


Thanks for humoring a moron.

you'll have to ask an expert. officially, his death has not been confirmed yet. the russian aviation authority (and the wagner officials) have probably announced his dead based on the passenger list, but, as i said, there can be no certainty until the bodies have been properly identified - and that's how most channels and news sites report it.

a reply to: malte85

Fair enough.

Ten bodies have been retrieved from the wreckage, local emergency services have said, but MailOnline is unable to independently verify whether Prigozhin was one of them. 

That was not what I read exactly.

Right before posting yet I cannot find it again

link

a reply to: Zaphod58


So.
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It depends....

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Threadbare

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Anything else happened in the news today ?

Now that is the Truth .

I doubt it was shot down , More Likely sabotage just an explosive placed in a critical area on the Aircraft.

Life is unforgiving at 30,000 ft flying in a pressurized paper thin metal can . Place an Explosive on the inside of the Jet next to a wing and rig it with an Altimeter to go off at a certain altitude 'Boom ' .

Looks like an accident .

a reply to: ARM1986

Really, when?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: ARM1986

Really, when?

Won’t work with me.

originally posted by: Threadbare

Yevgeny Prigozhin has been killed in a private jet crash in the Tver region north of Moscow, Russian agencies have reported.

The Wagner mercenary boss was on board the aircraft when it crashed killing all 10 passengers, authorities have said.

According to Russia’s federal air transport agency: “An investigation of the Embraer plane crash that happened in the Tver Region this evening was initiated.

Source

What a massive coincidence. I'm sure investigators will find no foul play. It's just another person in a long line of Putin's enemies that has died under mysterious circumstances.

Lol
Investigators

Your posts are such a delight

a reply to: ARM1986

Apparently not?

a reply to: shooterbrody

You are aware that plane crashes get investigated, right?

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: shooterbrody

You are aware that plane crashes get investigated, right?

You are aware this is in Russia?

Lolololololololololololol

Wait wait wait you bought the piss dossier too?