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Yevgeny Prigozhin killed in plane crash near Moscow

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posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 02:28 PM
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What information did he have on Hillary?




posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: gortex

Per video of crash, it looks like engine failure and loss of flight controls; that would mean that the plane's hydraulic systems were possibly impacted as well.

The plane looks pretty much intact as it plummets nose down, which might indicate that the pilot was trying to gain airspeed to avoid a stall, but could not enough control once the nose came up.


Maybe a small heat-seeker up the tailpipe of an engine? Or maybe a smaller on-board bomb designed to take out the hydraulics and engine controls?
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ETA:

Notice in the video of the crash that theplane goes into a "Flat spin" on its way down, which would indicate a loss of flight surface control. It also looks like the engines have "flamed out", and not restarted.
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posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 02:33 PM
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I'm calling BS

Maybe a plane WAS shot down in Russia, there has been a lot of that going
Maybe Prigozhin's name WAS on a passenger list

But a video of Him in Mali was posted on monday, He is in Africa Not sure why he would go from Belarus, to Mali, to Russia, to then fly to another Russian city

Something is false, someone is lying and i'm very of sad no one on ATS has done any DD or mentioned this yet. just regurgitation of the same media propaganda which everyone is always against when its not in their favor

Wagner boss Prigozhin claims to be in Africa, pledges to 'make Russia even greater on all continents'

Prigozhin's recorded video message follows information that over a thousand Wagner Group mercenaries have departed Belarus because they are unhappy with their pay, the Ukrainian military's National Resistance Center reported on Aug. 19.

Sources in Belarus told the Center that the number of Wagner fighters had fallen from 5,800 to 4,400.

According to the center's report, "lack of funding from Russia" is the cause. Dissatisfied with their earnings, Wagner mercenaries stationed in Belarus have signed contracts to fight in African nations or left for vacation without the intention of returning.

Wagner making ‘Africa even more free’, says Prigozhin in first post-rebellion video

The warlord suggests in the clip, posted on Monday, that he is on the African continent, adding that “the temperature is plus 50 [degrees Celsius]”. He says Wagner is conducting reconnaissance and search operations and “making Russia even greater on all continents, and Africa even more free”

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Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin claims to be making Africa ‘freer’ in unverified video

“Justice and happiness for the African peoples,” Prigozhin says in the clip. “Let’s make it a nightmare for ISIS, al-Qaeda and other thugs. We are hiring real bogatyrs [ancient Slavic warriors] and continue to fulfill the tasks that were set before us and that we promised we would handle.”

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posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: datguy
I'm calling BS

Maybe a plane WAS shot down in Russia, there has been a lot of that going
Maybe Prigozhin's name WAS on a passenger list

But a video of Him in Mali was posted on monday, He is in Africa Not sure why he would go from Belarus, to Mali, to Russia, to then fly to another Russian city

Something is false, someone is lying and i'm very of sad no one on ATS has done any DD or mentioned this yet. just regurgitation of the same media propaganda which everyone is always against when its not in their favor

Wagner boss Prigozhin claims to be in Africa, pledges to 'make Russia even greater on all continents'

Prigozhin's recorded video message follows information that over a thousand Wagner Group mercenaries have departed Belarus because they are unhappy with their pay, the Ukrainian military's National Resistance Center reported on Aug. 19.

Sources in Belarus told the Center that the number of Wagner fighters had fallen from 5,800 to 4,400.

According to the center's report, "lack of funding from Russia" is the cause. Dissatisfied with their earnings, Wagner mercenaries stationed in Belarus have signed contracts to fight in African nations or left for vacation without the intention of returning.

Wagner making ‘Africa even more free’, says Prigozhin in first post-rebellion video

The warlord suggests in the clip, posted on Monday, that he is on the African continent, adding that “the temperature is plus 50 [degrees Celsius]”. He says Wagner is conducting reconnaissance and search operations and “making Russia even greater on all continents, and Africa even more free”



It's possible Mali to Moscow, Russia is 7 hours, 21 minutes



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

Something clearly alerted bystanders to the plane since they started filming well before the impact. That would indicate an explosion of some kind. Whether that was from some external force or a catastrophic failure of the engine is now what needs to be determined.



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

That aircraft was not intact on the way down. You can see fuel streaming behind it as it is crashing. That means there was significant damage to at least one wing, allowing fuel to leak.



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

Witnesses reported hearing sound that fit an air defense battery firing, and at least two trails heading towards the aircraft before it crashed.



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: Cosmocow
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

could the general be fired for giving the order to shoot down the plane? Is that the spin to eliminate one via death and the other via jail?


That's right out there mate.................. Totally love it



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:40 PM
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We all knew something like this was coming.
It didn't take long.



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:50 PM
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Nothing reported as yet on the Belarus state sponsored MSM. Maybe they aren't certain of what's going on eng.belta.by...



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:52 PM
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The Russian CAA has confirmed Prigozhin and Dmitry Utkin were on the plane.

We've now heard from the Russian Civil Aviation Authority that Prigozhin and Wagner commander Dmitry Utkin were both on the flight.
news.sky.com...


Well done Vlad , 2 with one shot !


Denazified.
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posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:53 PM
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Yevgeny Prigozhin Didn't Kill Himself.

Seriously... who has the most to gain from this? Ukraine/CIA, not Russia. If Putin wanted to "deal" with him it would have already been done, and in a more quiet manner. This strike was intended to be a highly visible event that dominates the news cycle. Again... who's narrative benefits the most (while still getting revenge)?



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Hillary??!

More like how did he cross Putin?

Isn't it obvious?



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:57 PM
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Either it was a deliberate act of revenge by Putin or he was never actually on board the plane. This would be a great time to disappear if you knew yourself to be in danger or had a plan that could only be executed if you were thought to be dead.



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: Untame

Putin does not deal with "traitors" in a quiet manner.

He wants to send a clear message.

It's obvious but no, CIA/Ukraine done it.....




posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: Untame




If Putin wanted to "deal" with him it would have already been done,

Revenge is a dish best served cold.



and in a more quiet manner

Not when you intend to send a signal.



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: gortex

There's none so blind as them's that won't see.




posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Because, of course, everything involving international affairs is exactly as it appears.



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Untame

And somehow they managed to get their hands on a Russian air defense system near Moscow, or plant their own system near Moscow, and no one noticed it. And instead of going for a big target, decide to kill Prigozhin.



posted on Aug, 23 2023 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Untame
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Because, of course, everything involving international affairs is exactly as it appears.


Do you mean like in The Donbas before 2014 ?



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