1000 School Districts Hide Kids Trans Identities From Parents

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Look at the post above the one you adressed that's what we were talking about.

No I'm only half jerking, because my statement you felt the urge to respond to, was made in the context of child abuse,

I think you kind of jerked yourself by not looking for context when interjecting a conversation.

So I was first reading what you said, in the context in which I said it. Sorry not sorry....

Is my second assumption that happend after some reflectionon what you could mean, closer to what you meant to say?

The teacher will still take that decision on her own behalf, actually reporting anything to anyone...

Maybe we should just read the actual guidelines and not loose our minds in fear driven fantasies?

a reply to: Terpene

Im sorry, but I dont understand what you just said in all that.

Why don't you worry about what goes on in your country, and we will worry about what goes on in the US, 'K?

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

You replied to me out of context. Must be a oldlady thing thats ok.
This is not a usa board, sorry to bother you with ample views not dumbed down by a messed up education system.

So.... Is tax reduction for alternative schooling a thing?

a reply to: Terpene


Your whole statement was just incoherent. Must be a terpene thing, and comes with a phallic avatar. That says all I need to know about an adolescent male. Ive had enough of, with a grown son and 2 grandsons. I don't need it here.

Pass me by, kid.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Oh and then you come with the condescending attitude...

Not my fault you fail to use your brain before talkng, doesn't end well if you want to discuss with me. So maybe you do yourself a favor and pass by me.

Teachers here are REQUIRED by law to report any case of suspected child abuse to Child Protective Services.

Are you really this clueless or are you jerking me around?

If the later, just piss off, 'k

Yeah what is jerking?
You made yourself look stupid not understanding context befor interjecting a conversation.

Sorry I don't talk oldlady English.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Terpene


Your whole statement was just incoherent. Must be a terpene thing, and comes with a phallic avatar. That says all I need to know about an adolescent male. Ive had enough of, with a grown son and 2 grandsons. I don't need it here.

Pass me by, kid.

parents just want to protect their kids, but the young know it alls just want their politics to own their enemies not improve safeguarding. what I find shocking is how deeply pro establishment/pro big corp/pro big pharma they are.. i can not imagine being like that as a teen, young adult or even now as the state always over reaches itself and starts abusing its position of power...

my whinge about them to one side the lockdowns gave us some excellent data as forcing kids to stay at home has sharpened the current picture and the grooming pathways being used to target and abuse children, its unshocking that 4 in 5 targeted are girls.. meta platforms account for well over 40% of the grooming pathways being used by grooming gangs, this online grooming is continuing to skyrocket

parents obviously want to protect their kids while the apologists will fight all attempts at safeguarding, indeed activists can never accept that abusers will leverage all the protection they can to access victims as trans, as teachers, as janitors as doctors as priests.. thus we find ourselves back with the thing that never happens happening a lot.

when i was a child if you got a smack at school you'd get one at home and that teacher/parent bond has been broken by this know it all activism.. thus instead of focusing on protecting the kids from this new threat teachers would rather wage war against parents if they really cared about the kids they#d join the parents in building better safeguards but they are not..

so it feels like we're evolving into 2 clear societies.. one that is always moving closer to normalising friendly terms for pedos and offers them protection and those that reject that out right..

both these sides will come into clear conflict before long as all the voices i know calling for revolutionary change are women sick to death of this society destroying safeguards, as a csa survivor child safeguarding is the only topic outside of the poll tax I've ever been an activist for..

our society has clear issues maintaining safeguards for kids, disabled, different, women, and the elderly..

through that lens it looks totaly f*cked especially how some many fight to defend how dodgy the us leader looks around kids..

a reply to: nickyw

There has been an attack on the family in the US since around 1964. The War on Poverty turned out to be the war on families, starting with mostly poor minorities, and now every race. Two parent intact family is becoming the exception not the rule.

When the welfare system (war on poverty) would not give assistance unless the father left the home, it was the beginning of the end. I never understood why a boyfriend can live with a single mom and her kid(s), but not the father, and she will get a check. The most dangerous place for a child is with the moms boyfriend, male and particularly female.
The law in the US created this. LBJ, a democrat.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

the welfare state as created was designed by liberals to eradicate the poor not poverty its eugenics by other means, abortions was one tool, keeping wages/welfare low was designed specifically to ensure it was impossible for a poor couple to have 2 children, the ultimate aim by 1970s was to have a pop in the uk of 30m made up of a new obedient servant class.

as an objective it failed miserably the poor are not fewer and as 2016 proved not at all obedient, and the fightback against the state removing our rights, freedoms and safeguards grows as liberalism adopts old school eugenics to achieve their end goals.

the thing with this is while the rich have the 3.5% rule to force change on societies against their will, the poor have the 25% rule to obliterate those attempts.. for me the real over reach is the kids, a chunk will accept the state harming the elderly as any complainants gets inheritance to compensate for their silence.. there is no compensation for harming kids and will be no silence.

the time fo no debate on what is being done is over..

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Check the list for schools near you.
Report - List of School District Transgender Gender Nonconforming Student Policies CLICK HERE

California has a TON of schools listed. No surprise there. Big left wing state.

a reply to: FlyersFan

news flash,

differing opinions is not trolling per se, and this is not a US message board.
If differing opinions from different places of the world bother you, maybe find another place to discuss.

Will you actually post some quotes from those school guidelines, or do you just want to ride the fear driven hate train?
you know denying ignorance works by reading the actual papers and verifying if what they say is what you think they say.
not taking the words of others, and thinking for oneself, always helps.

Let's see the relevant quotes that prove, they actually say what you claim they say.

by only providing pundit news, you are setting a very low standard for intellectual discussion, but maybe that's what it is among the trans critique?

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: FlyersFan

news flash,

differing opinions is not trolling per se, and this is not a US message board.
If differing opinions from different places of the world bother you, maybe find another place to discuss.

Will you actually post some quotes from those school guidelines, or do you just want to ride the fear driven hate train?
you know denying ignorance works by reading the actual papers and verifying if what they say is what you think they say.
not taking the words of others, and thinking for oneself, always helps.

Let's see the relevant quotes that prove, they actually say what you claim they say.

by only providing pundit news, you are setting a very low standard for intellectual discussion, but maybe that's what it is among the trans critique?

Absolutely they should find an exclusive US message board if opinions from other people from around the world, where in this case school policies are pretty much identical re: inclusion and diversity, are not accepted or valued. It's typically thought of world current events, keyword: world.

On topic and ignoring the trolls

A group of parents in Montgomery County Maryland, one of the most liberal counties in the country, challenged the schools on their 'don't tell the parents about TRANS children' policy. They were shot down because they didn't have children who were TRANS. So only those with TRANS children can challenge the rule but if they aren't told about it because the school keeps it a secret, then the parents can't know about it to know to challenge it. Lack of logic.

Reuters - Parents cannot challenge school gender identity policy, US court rules

Aug 14 (Reuters) - A federal appeals court on Monday ruled that a group of parents could not challenge a Maryland school district's policy against telling parents if their children identify as transgender or gender nonconforming.

A 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel ruled 2-1 that three parents in Montgomery County, Maryland, lacked standing to challenge the policy because they had not alleged their children were transgender in the first place.

It's unconstitutional and goes against the 14th Amendment.

NY Post - US Public Schools Conceal Childs Gender Status From Parents

Despite the legal controversy, the Biden administration proposed new Title IX regulations in July 2022 that would allow school district employees across America to withhold gender information from parents, setting up a potential battle between the federal government and red states.

The policies have already prompted legal action in some districts — with opponents spanning the full political spectrum.

Last November, a transgender clinical psychologist filed an amicus brief on behalf of a conservative law group suing the school district in Montgomery County, Md., which covers some of the toniest suburbs of the nation’s capital.

The psychologist, Dr. Erica Anderson, said in the brief that socially transitioning at school as a child “is a major and potentially life-altering decision that requires parental involvement, for many reasons.”

“I don’t want to be erased as a transgender person, and I don’t want anyone’s prerogatives or identity to be taken away from them,” she told the New York Times in January, “but on this one, I’m aligned with people who are willing to advocate for parents.”

Vernadette Broyles, who runs the conservative Child and Parental Rights Campaign, has been equally invested in the legal battle, pushing school districts and gender clinics alike to stop policies that keep parents in the dark.

Such guidance, she says, violates parents’ right to privacy as codified in the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) of 1974, as well as parents’ 14th Amendment rights.

“Privacy rights are held by the parents for the child, not by the child against their parents,” Broyles told the Washington Free Beacon last year, saying school administrators and teachers are engaging in “intentional obfuscation, driving a wedge between children and parents at a time when children need their parents most.”

Broyles is currently representing whistleblower Jamie Reed, the 42-year-old former case manager at Washington University Transgender Center in St. Louis.

Reed told The Free Press in February that the gender clinic performed “morally and medically appalling” procedures on children, at times without the informed consent of parents.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
On topic and ignoring the trolls

A group of parents in Montgomery County Maryland, one of the most liberal counties in the country, challenged the schools on their 'don't tell the parents about TRANS children' policy. They were shot down because they didn't have children who were TRANS. So only those with TRANS children can challenge the rule but if they aren't told about it because the school keeps it a secret, then the parents can't know about it to know to challenge it. Lack of logic.

Reuters - Parents cannot challenge school gender identity policy, US court rules

Aug 14 (Reuters) - A federal appeals court on Monday ruled that a group of parents could not challenge a Maryland school district's policy against telling parents if their children identify as transgender or gender nonconforming.

A 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel ruled 2-1 that three parents in Montgomery County, Maryland, lacked standing to challenge the policy because they had not alleged their children were transgender in the first place.

We are not trolls, we are valued members of this board and make sure you remember that.

I actually agree with you, in that, parents need to be involved in their child's school life because their socialization in that environment is a big chunk of their life's experiences. If the child cannot come out to the parents for whatever reason then perhaps the coming out should be in a different setting with trained professionals present, where the school staff can initiate this type of meeting/counselling for all concerned.

It may not even be that the child is LGBTQ or dysphoria, maybe just questioning or fantasizing, either way the parents should be notified and involved in whatever the child is going through and all concerned should try to figure it out, wait it out, or deal with it.

A school in Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada has adopted a new policy that transkids who ask to be named by another name and/or pronouns must have their parents written permission first, but only those children under the age of 16 years. After 16 years old it appears the parents have no say in how the school respects the teenager's wishes.

ADF Legal - Should Schools Notify Parents if Their Child Claims to be Trangender

The rapid increase of children who identify as “non-binary” should serve as a warning. While activists try to impose their own beliefs about gender onto children, evidence shows that gender dysphoria is profoundly social. According to the American College of Pediatricians, 80 to 95 percent of children who experience gender dysphoria will ultimately accept their biological sex so long as they are allowed to go through natural puberty rather than being “affirmed” in a transgender identity.

Furthermore, only parents have the authority to make medical decisions for their minor children, and social transitioning is a profound mental health decision. As gender dysphoria expert Dr. Stephen B. Levine writes, “social transition has a critical effect on the persistence of gender dysphoria.” He adds that “social transition before or during puberty … is a psychotherapeutic intervention that dramatically changes outcomes.”

By encouraging social transitioning, many school officials are putting children on a path toward medical transition, including hormone therapy and surgery. These treatments cause irreversible damage, locking a child into physical changes for a lifetime.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

ADF Legal - Should Schools Notify Parents if Their Child Claims to be Trangender

The rapid increase of children who identify as “non-binary” should serve as a warning. While activists try to impose their own beliefs about gender onto children, evidence shows that gender dysphoria is profoundly social. According to the American College of Pediatricians, 80 to 95 percent of children who experience gender dysphoria will ultimately accept their biological sex so long as they are allowed to go through natural puberty rather than being “affirmed” in a transgender identity.

Furthermore, only parents have the authority to make medical decisions for their minor children, and social transitioning is a profound mental health decision. As gender dysphoria expert Dr. Stephen B. Levine writes, “social transition has a critical effect on the persistence of gender dysphoria.” He adds that “social transition before or during puberty … is a psychotherapeutic intervention that dramatically changes outcomes.”

By encouraging social transitioning, many school officials are putting children on a path toward medical transition, including hormone therapy and surgery. These treatments cause irreversible damage, locking a child into physical changes for a lifetime.

Again, jumping to conclusions about school staff pushing transgender indoctrination on children, when the children may just be going through a questioning phase or fantasizing or maybe something else? Schools need to involve the parents and first determine what exactly the child is experiencing and that requires trained medical professionals, not parents, and not school staff to make those determinations.

Parents not only have a duty to take care of their children, but they have a RIGHT to take care of their children. To do so, they need to know if the child thinks it may be TRANS. For schools to give new names to children and to put them in opposite gender sports - all without the parents consent - is unconstitutional and goes against the 14th Amendment.

More recently, this Court declared in Washington v. Glucksberg, 521 U.S. 702 (1997), that the Constitution, and specifically the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, protects the fundamental right of parents to direct the care, upbringing, and education of their children. Id. at 720.

Constitution Congress .GOV - Parental and Childrens Rights

A more clearly defined wording is being proposed as a change to the US Constitution.
Considering the OVER REACH by the left wing, I think this is a good idea.
Usually I disagree with touching the Constitution, but it looks like it is needed.

Wikipedia Parental Rights Amendment to the US Constitution Proposed

The current language (as proposed in H.J.Res.36) is as follows:

SECTION 1
The liberty of parents to direct the upbringing, education, and care of their children is a fundamental right.

SECTION 2
The parental right to direct education includes the right to choose, as an alternative to public education, private, religious, or home schools, and the right to make reasonable choices within public schools for one's child.

SECTION 3
Neither the United States nor any State shall infringe these rights without demonstrating that its governmental interest as applied to the person is of the highest order and not otherwise served.

SECTION 4
The parental rights guaranteed by this article shall not be denied or abridged on account of disability.

SECTION 5
This article shall not be construed to apply to a parental action or decision that would end life.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Sure, have uneducated parents make all the calls to their child's psychological wellbeing, not.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.

Seriously. Ignore the trolling by foreigners. They don't live here and have no say in our education system and our family values. They don't understand school vouchers and our tax system and don't want to learn. This thread really is none of their business and they don't listen so just ignore them.

But I am American. Ancestors been here since the 1700s.

I rarely, if ever agree with you.

But I almost always agree with Terpene.

And as stated — this forum is not exclusive to the Us.

American Bar Association - Parental Rights Cases To Know

The U.S. Supreme Court and federal court rulings highlighted below recognize parents’ constitutional rights to the care, custody, and control of their children. See Guggenheim’s chapter for analysis of these and other cases, as well as an overview of child protection laws and how they affect parental rights.

Right to raise children as parents choose - law making cases listed at site
Right to make decisions about children - law making cases listed at site

In order for parents to raise children as they choose and to make decisions about children, the schools can't subvert parental authority by calling children by new names and putting them in opposite gender sports and then not tell the parents. Parents NEED TO KNOW in order to properly raise a child and to find the child proper mental health and physical health help if needed.