1000 School Districts Hide Kids Trans Identities From Parents

a reply to: nickyw

whataboutism is your answer to this...

I'm curious why you think teachers should knowingly put kids in harms way?

argue that instead of going on a what about tangent... if you can that is...

originally posted by: Terpene
All kids do have a safe haven in school,

Indoctrination isn't keeping kids safe.
Tearing families apart isn't keeping kids safe.
Sexual and psychological abuse by teachers and staff (see attached links)
Bullies and gangs and drugs ....
No schools are not a 'safe haven' for children.

Rand Corporation - School Violence: Prevalence, Fears Prevention

School violence is not confined to urban schools; it is also prevalent in suburban schools.[3] Violence is most common in large schools, and middle school students are the most likely targets of violent behavior.

The latest data available on criminal incidents (school year 1996–1997) reveal that about half of public middle and high schools reported at least one incident of physical attacks, fights (without a weapon), theft, larceny, or vandalism. Also, even in light of the 5 percent decrease in weapon carrying between 1995 and 1999,[3] 7–8 percent of students in 9th to 12th grade continue to report having been threatened or injured with a weapon on school property. What is more, official statistics are often lower than the actual rates of violent behavior because of biases in reporting.[4] Overall, then, violence remains a problem in American schools.

In addition to their Concerns about violent behavior, students are fearful of and intimidated by other, less serious forms of peer hostility. These include physical aggression such as shoving and pushing, face-to-face verbal harassment, public humiliation, and rumor mongering. About 20–30 percent of American students (i.e., over 10 million) repeatedly either engage in or are the targets of bullying tactics[6] that contribute to the climate of fear.[7] In fact, youth ages 8 to 15 rank bullying as more of a problem in their lives than discrimination, racism, or violence.

Education Week - Violence in Schools Seems to be Increasing

American Counseling Organization - Violence in US Public Schools Old data but still makes a point

* Secondary schools are more likely to report at least one incident of violence than elementary and middle schools, with 92 percent of secondary schools, 87 percent of middle schools, and 61 percent of elementary schools reporting a violent incident. For serious violence, secondary and middle schools (29 percent) report the same incidence of serious violence, while 14 percent of elementary schools report at least one serious incident.

US News - As Students Return to School, So Does School Violence

On a single day in late October, five teachers were physically attacked at a high school in Rochester, New York. Just days earlier, another teacher reported she was sexually assaulted as she attempted to intervene in a student altercation.

These incidents were just the latest in what Rochester school officials have acknowledged is a troubling uptick in school violence since the beginning of this school year.

“The pandemic clearly appears to have contributed to a substantial increase in violence and a lack of safety,” says Adam Urbanski, president of the Rochester Teachers Association.

Unfortunately, Rochester’s experience isn’t unique. All over the country, teachers and school districts are reporting rising violence in schools. School violence is defined as youth-involved violence that occurs on school property; on the way to or from school; or before, during or after a school-sponsored event. It can range from bullying and physical assault to incidents involving gangs and guns.

School Violence Statistics and Causes

School violence is any violent activity that occurs in the school setting and disrupts learning. School shootings is an example of school violence that receives the most attention from the media, beginning in the 1990s with the Columbine High School shooting in Littleton, Colorado, where two students shot and killed 13 people and wounded more than 20 others before committing suicide. However, incidents of bullying, including cyberbullying, physical altercations or fights, gang activity, the use of weapons, theft, and sexual assault are also examples of school violence. School violence can also take the form of emotional abuse, such as name calling, verbal altercations, hateful speech, spreading rumors, or threatening another person.

The most recent data available shows that during the 2019–20 school year, there were about 939,000 violent incidents (including sexual assaults, robbery, and physical attacks with or without a weapon) in U.S. public schools. There were about 487,000 nonviolent incidents (involving a firearm, knife or other sharp object, theft, possession or use of drugs or alcohol, and vandalism). Seventy percent of schools reported at least one violent incident during the school year. The NCES reports that during the same year, there were 75 school shootings with injuries, including 27 with deaths, and 37 school shootings with no injuries.

Im curious why you think teachers should knowingly put kids in harms way?

Indoctrination is harm. Tearing families apart is harm.

Academia.EDU - Abuse in School 100 Times Worse Than By Priests

Education Week - Sexual Abuse by Educators is Scrutinized

CBS News - Has Media Ignored Sex Abuse in School

Sexual Abuse by Teachers Compared to Priests Chart

Orlow Law - Sex Abuse in Schools An All Too Common Occurrence

In general, nearly a third of all forcible rapes in America occur against children younger than 11. An estimated 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 7 boys are victimized by unwanted sexual contact. It is very difficult to pinpoint how often school sex abuse occurs. Many instances go unreported because children are too frightened or embarrassed to speak out. A Department of Education report suggests that 6 to 10 percent of all public school students will suffer sex abuse before they graduate. Another study estimates that 10 percent of U.S. students will experience unwanted sexual contact at school, acts which may include exposure to pornography, lewd comments, peeping in locker rooms, and sexual touching and groping. At this rate, millions of students currently enrolled in grades K-12 will suffer some form of sexual misconduct by an educator.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Oh wait, more anecdotal bull manure...

Take your kids out of school, is your only option if you don't agree with state propaganda has always been like that unfortunately...

Its just pathetic this suddenly becomes such a problem when you were happy with it so far.

Spouting lies online only works against your endeavors....

I'm curious why you think teachers should knowingly put kids in harms way?

a reply to: Terpene

My post was up for 30 seconds before you posted that tripe. You obviously did not look at the information provided which shows schools are not a 'safe haven' at all. Sexual abuse, violence, gangs, guns, drugs, bullies, assaults .... all spell 'safe haven' eh? That's a sick joke. Obviously you have no interest in discussing the facts so I'm done addressing you.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I'm curious why you think teachers should knowingly put kids in harms way?

a reply to: FlyersFan

Compare these estimated numbers (yes no proof just extrapolation) to domestic violence and you have the reason why teachers have the right to withhold information that puts kids in harms way.

Ignoring the trolls and discussing the topic ....

The teachers and staff at these schools largely belong to the National Education Association teachers union. Notorious for it's far left stand on issues and it's left wing political activism. The TRANS agenda in the schools has become a left wing pet project and these people think they are 'doing good' when in fact they are doing harm.

Wikipedia - The NEA, by the 1970s emerged as a factor in modern American liberalism. While the NEA has a stated position of "non-partisan", it almost exclusively supports the Democratic Party. Conservatives, libertarians, and parents' rights groups have criticized the NEA's progressive positions.

Freedom Foundation - NEA is the Left Wing Piggy Bank

With dictatorial precision, the organization’s leaders consistently mouth the mission statement from the NEA’s website claiming to “advocate for education professionals” while “improving the quality of teaching, increasing student achievement and making schools safer, better places to learn.”

But the numbers tell a different story.

In fact, the NEA last year devoted only 8.5 percent of its revenues to anything remotely connected with teachers and students, with the rest used to line the pockets of union leaders and advance a radical leftist agenda at odds with the views of many of its members and most of the nation’s parents.

According to the most recent LM-2 form submitted by the NEA to the Internal Revenue Service, the union raked in a staggering $377 million in dues and agency fees during 2021 alone.

Of that total, however, only $32 million was earmarked for representational activity — presumably the NEA’s top priority.

So where did the rest of all the teacher’s dues money go?

By the union’s own accounting, it spent $66 million on political activities.Let that sink in for a minute. The NEA diverted twice as much of its members’ dues money to greedy politicians as it did actually representing them.

And it didn’t ask which candidates and causes to support, either. Historically, the union supports radical liberals about 99 percent of the time, no matter what its members might actually prefer.

But that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The LM-2 also lists another $117 million spent for “contributions, gifts and grants,” that were primarily political.

BULLYING in the so called 'safe haven' of public schools

Less than half of those bullied report it.

Stop Bullying .GOV

- About 20% of students ages 12-18 experienced bullying nationwide.

- Nationwide, 19% of students in grades 9–12 report being bullied on school property in the 12 months prior to the survey.

- Approximately 46% of students ages 12-18 who were bullied during the school year notified an adult at school about the bullying.

National Bullying Center

One out of every five (20.2%) students report being bullied. (National Center for Educational Statistics, 2019 )

41% of students who reported being bullied at school indicated that they think the bullying would happen again

Education Corner - Bullying Epidemic

Bullying is an epidemic. It is rampant, widespread, pervasive and the effects can be catastrophic. It occurs in our communities, in our schools – and sadly – even in our homes. Bullying statistics are staggering, scary and merit serious consideration and immediate action. Consider the following:

Facts and Statistics

- 90% of students in grades 4-8 report having been harassed or bullied.
- 28% of students in grades 6-12 experience bullying.2
- 20% of students in grades 9-12 experience bullying. (stopbullying.gov)
- In grades 6-12, 9% of students have experienced cyberbulling.2
- Over 160,000 kids refuse to go to school each day for fear of being bullied. (Nation Education Association)
- 70.6% of students report having witnessed bullying in their school–and over 71% say bullying is a problem.
- Over 10% of students who dropout of school do so due to being bullied repeatedly.
- Each month 282,000 students are physically assaulted in some way in secondary schools throughout the United States–and the number is growing.
- Statistics suggest that revenge [due to bullying] is the number one motivator for school shootings in the U.S.
- 86% of students surveyed said, "other kids picking on them, making fun of them or bullying them" is the number one reason that teenagers turn to lethal violence at school.
- Nearly 75% of school shootings have been linked to harassment and bullying.
- 87% of students surveyed report that bullying is the primary motivator of school shootings.
- 64% of students who are bullied do not report it. (Petrosina, Guckenburg, Devoe and Hanson 2010)

a reply to: FlyersFan

As you look at your state law (and school policy), here are important questions to ask:

How does the law define bullying?
Are there examples of bullying listed in the law?
Does the law cover cyberbullying or bullying outside of school hours?
How do you report bullying?
Does the law require the school to report bullying?
Is there a timeline for the school to investigate bullying?
Is there a timeline for the school to take action to stop bullying?
What penalties does the law have for bullies?
What happens under the law if the school can’t or won’t stop the bullying?
Does the law require the school to train its staff to stop and prevent bullying?
What services are available if your child is bullied?

According to federal and most state laws, if a school even suspects bullying, it must investigate. For instance, if a teacher sees kids making fun of another child because she can’t read, the teacher must report it. The school must look into the situation, even if the child hasn’t said anything.

Another tricky area? What officially counts as bullying. Not all conflict is bullying. And there can be a difference between bullying and teasing. So how does a school decide if something is severe enough to count as bullying?

In this case, a school should look at the definition a

www.understood.org...

Sometimes the bullied kid is the initial bully where I've seen kids form a group and challenge the bully. The bully of course tells everyone he/she was bullied by all the kids. Bullying is not always defined properly.

Anyway, my point from the above "quoted text" is that there are policies in place and they work from what I witness in elementary schools. Middle and high schools have many more issues.

This argument is founded on a misunderstanding.

While parents are responsible for the welfare of their children, this responsibility does not imply ownership.

Parents are custodians of their children.

On whose behalf? There are many defensible answers to that question. The state. The community, whatever that means. The children's own future selves. God.

Under no circumstances, however, can the question be answered 'on the parents' own behalf.'

Stick in your craw as it might, that is the truth. Parents have a say in their children's education, but theirs is not the final decision. That belongs to the constituted authorities. Sorry, but it's a fact.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Public schools are becoming less and less options of preferred choice for a proficient education.

Almost all of the people I know, as well as friends and family, children are home schooled, private schooled, or are in highly competitive magnet schools.

Public schools are becoming kindergartens for the school to prison pipeline.

I am not saying that no child will be able to get a useful education from public schools, but it will be much harder, and the parents will have to be greatly involved and constantly vigilant.

Problem solved - choose homeschooling where parental control is 100% but to get something you have to give up something else with that decision.

blog.bjupress.com...

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
Almost all of the people I know, as well as friends and family, children are home schooled, private schooled, or are in highly competitive magnet schools.

We home schooled until fifth grade and then used Catholic school until high school graduation. It cost us severely financially but we did it. Now we have to worry about having enough money in our senior years, but we made sure to do the safe thing and not use the city schools here, and that was important.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
Almost all of the people I know, as well as friends and family, children are home schooled, private schooled, or are in highly competitive magnet schools.

We home schooled until fifth grade and then used Catholic school until high school graduation. It cost us severely financially but we did it. Now we have to worry about having enough money in our senior years, but we made sure to do the safe thing and not use the city schools here, and that was important.

I warn folks that when it comes to your children, know that you are going to pay.

You are going to pay to keep your children out of trouble, or you are going to pay to get your children out of trouble. You just have to decide if you are going to pay up front or behind.

a reply to: Astyanax

No it does not imply ownership. Yet the parents have infinite more rights than you and others have on those parents kids. Because you have zero rights to have a say in anyone's family.

It's concerning conspicuous that it's always the same tripe of people with the same alignment that have a tad bit too much interest in other children and their not even fully developed sexuality.

a reply to: Terpene

Im sure most parents would gladly just take their kids out of school, except theyve paid for it with their taxes, so they are owed a refund.

a reply to: Terpene

Well, no, the teacher has an obligation to report to the proper authorities, not decide for themselves what should be shared with the parent(s).

a reply to: Astyanax

Pardon me, but I'm not surprised a woman with a rubber snake would find that the Constitution says that the State is the final authority over children.

Lets pretend is fun!

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

uk has no real "home school" but the data has 20% of students taking huge chunks of time off and a further 150k have just vanished from schools, this marries a rise in unregistered schools highlighting that parallel societies are actually emerging from this calamity..

if schools and teachers had something to offer i'm sure these numbers would not be so high, but what is the point of a school that just engages in ideology, the numbers say modern schools have nothing to offer students today..

if i was a teacher i'd be heart broken at being in a system where the kids first inclination is to totally reject what you have to impart..

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Terpene

Im sure most parents would gladly just take their kids out of school, except theyve paid for it with their taxes, so they are owed a refund.

I have paid for schools in my property tax for more years than I have had children in school. Even if they don't have children in school they will pay for schools with their taxes.