LGBTQ Pride Storybooks in Maryland Public Schools - the battle of national interest

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When I include people into a poker game, I don't care if they're gay or trans or bi or whatever.

We're there to play poker.


In school, you include all children into an environment of learning. Math, English, History, the subjects don't care what gender you "identify" as or what your parents are. Gays don't learn differently than anyone else.

This excuse to "include" based on sexuality is wrong and sick.

For children it's not sexuality, it's gender expression and/or identity and other children will be curious as to why that child presents that way. Gender is not sexual in nature, it is how a child feels at certain stages within their experiences and maturity. Adult expressions would certainly differ because again maturity and life's experiences. I think you are thinking in adult terms here.

And you're projecting an adult mindset onto children.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When I include people into a poker game, I don't care if they're gay or trans or bi or whatever.

We're there to play poker.


In school, you include all children into an environment of learning. Math, English, History, the subjects don't care what gender you "identify" as or what your parents are. Gays don't learn differently than anyone else.

This excuse to "include" based on sexuality is wrong and sick.

Of course, cuz they’re all little robots.

You’ve obviously never raised a “diverse type” kid.

No.

They are all just children and should be treated as children.

a reply to: Annee

He's probably never had a grandma with Polio either.

That bastard DB...

We should inform DHS.

Have you ever listened to a detrans?

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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When I include people into a poker game, I don't care if they're gay or trans or bi or whatever.

We're there to play poker.


In school, you include all children into an environment of learning. Math, English, History, the subjects don't care what gender you "identify" as or what your parents are. Gays don't learn differently than anyone else.

This excuse to "include" based on sexuality is wrong and sick.

For children it's not sexuality, it's gender expression and/or identity and other children will be curious as to why that child presents that way. Gender is not sexual in nature, it is how a child feels at certain stages within their experiences and maturity. Adult expressions would certainly differ because again maturity and life's experiences. I think you are thinking in adult terms here.

And you're projecting an adult mindset onto children.

I'm relaying scientific research findings from those working in the field.

ETA

The mindset imposed on all children, IMO, is inclusivity and acceptance, or at the very least, understanding and learning social manners of those that present as different.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When I include people into a poker game, I don't care if they're gay or trans or bi or whatever.

We're there to play poker.


In school, you include all children into an environment of learning. Math, English, History, the subjects don't care what gender you "identify" as or what your parents are. Gays don't learn differently than anyone else.

This excuse to "include" based on sexuality is wrong and sick.

For children it's not sexuality, it's gender expression and/or identity and other children will be curious as to why that child presents that way. Gender is not sexual in nature, it is how a child feels at certain stages within their experiences and maturity. Adult expressions would certainly differ because again maturity and life's experiences. I think you are thinking in adult terms here.

And you're projecting an adult mindset onto children.

I'm relaying scientific research findings from those working in the field.

What does gender have to do with learning what 2+2 equals?

a reply to: DBCowboy

You can't talk about 2+2, that's racist math

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When I include people into a poker game, I don't care if they're gay or trans or bi or whatever.

We're there to play poker.


In school, you include all children into an environment of learning. Math, English, History, the subjects don't care what gender you "identify" as or what your parents are. Gays don't learn differently than anyone else.

This excuse to "include" based on sexuality is wrong and sick.

For children it's not sexuality, it's gender expression and/or identity and other children will be curious as to why that child presents that way. Gender is not sexual in nature, it is how a child feels at certain stages within their experiences and maturity. Adult expressions would certainly differ because again maturity and life's experiences. I think you are thinking in adult terms here.

And you're projecting an adult mindset onto children.

I'm relaying scientific research findings from those working in the field.

What does gender have to do with learning what 2+2 equals?

The school environment is not just learning it's also socialization, big time.

John Money and the story of Brenda is interesting.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When I include people into a poker game, I don't care if they're gay or trans or bi or whatever.

We're there to play poker.


In school, you include all children into an environment of learning. Math, English, History, the subjects don't care what gender you "identify" as or what your parents are. Gays don't learn differently than anyone else.

This excuse to "include" based on sexuality is wrong and sick.

For children it's not sexuality, it's gender expression and/or identity and other children will be curious as to why that child presents that way. Gender is not sexual in nature, it is how a child feels at certain stages within their experiences and maturity. Adult expressions would certainly differ because again maturity and life's experiences. I think you are thinking in adult terms here.

And you're projecting an adult mindset onto children.

I'm relaying scientific research findings from those working in the field.

What does gender have to do with learning what 2+2 equals?

The school environment is not just learning it's also socialization, big time.

Children play together, they don't need to be sexualized.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
John Money and the story of Brenda is interesting.

Quite a big stretch to have to go back to a 1966 sensationalized story of a botched experiment.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
In school, you include all children into an environment of learning. Math, English, History, the subjects don't care what gender you "identify" as or what your parents are. Gays don't learn differently than anyone else.

If I was still a moderator here I'd hit the applause button for that.
You said it perfectly.

a reply to: quintessentone

Fair enough but from my understanding his ideas were used for decades to come in regards to gender identity. So while dated may still have some relevance to the ideology.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
John Money and the story of Brenda is interesting.

Quite a big stretch to have to go back to a 1966 sensationalized story of a botched experiment.

Not really, he was the one who pioneered gender ideology and was the one who trailblazed the idea of a "trans child."

originally posted by: Annee

Of course, cuz they’re all little robots.

You’ve obviously never raised a “diverse type” kid.

I just do not understand what it is that you want to see. It seems you want to allow children to do anything they want at any time otherwise they are robots. If your grandchild decided to just run around naked anytime they went outside would you be like, "he is just doing what he wants and everyone must accept it".

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
When I include people into a poker game, I don't care if they're gay or trans or bi or whatever.

We're there to play poker.


In school, you include all children into an environment of learning. Math, English, History, the subjects don't care what gender you "identify" as or what your parents are. Gays don't learn differently than anyone else.

This excuse to "include" based on sexuality is wrong and sick.

Of course, cuz they’re all little robots.

You’ve obviously never raised a “diverse type” kid.

No.

They are all just children and should be treated as children.

Yes, they are children and self-esteem is #1 priority.

If you don’t have a math aptitude and you fail — how does that affect a kids self esteem?

My kid “fired” from 2 preschools — because he wouldn’t be a robot. He wouldn’t quietly sit during storylines.

But you expect him to focus on the “3Rs”.

Oh, he did teach himself phonetics and was reading before age 3.

Kids come in varieties. Education needs to be diverse

Diverse requires inclusion.

a reply to: Annee

I have noticed that with children some of the ones that are not so good in math excel in language/reading skills.

I agree that education needs to be diverse but also different teaching methods need to be applied because not all kids learn the same way.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Of course, cuz they’re all little robots.

You’ve obviously never raised a “diverse type” kid.

It seems you want to allow children to do anything they want at any time otherwise they are robots. If your grandchild decided to just run around naked anytime they went outside would you be like, "he is just doing what he wants and everyone must accept it".

Absolutely not.

Autism requires early intervention and learned behaviors. He’s been in counseling/behavior modification since he was 4.

He knows he has his world — and rules apply outside his world. He’s very charming with good manners. 6 feet tall and very good looking (not the geeky type).

And BTW — I did not allow anxiety meds until he was 14.

originally posted by: Annee
My kid “fired” from 2 preschools — because he wouldn’t be a robot. He wouldn’t quietly sit during storylines.

Expecting proper behavior from kids at certain times so that all may learn isn't making a kid into a "robot". That's ridiculous. You endorse chaos and then wonder why the kid can't learn. Pffft.

originally posted by: Annee
Diverse requires inclusion.

Nobody excludes gay or trans kids from learning.
LGBTQ indoctrination isn't needed in order for kids to learn.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
My kid “fired” from 2 preschools — because he wouldn’t be a robot. He wouldn’t quietly sit during storylines.

Expecting proper behavior from kids at certain times so that all may learn isn't making a kid into a "robot". That's ridiculous. You endorse chaos and then wonder why the kid can't learn. Pffft.

originally posted by: Annee
Diverse requires inclusion.

Nobody excludes gay or trans kids from learning.
LGBTQ indoctrination isn't needed in order for kids to learn.

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On the other hand, when students struggle to form friendships, experience bullying, or feel like they don’t fit in with their peers, problems can arise. The stress and anxiety that comes with social strain can distract from school work, leading to lower grades, reduced student engagement and less involvement in class time.

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originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: Annee

I have noticed that with children some of the ones that are not so good in math excel in language/reading skills.

YES

It runs in my family. My younger brother at age 4 would spread the newspaper out on the floor and read it everyday.

But none of us has any aptitude for math.

There is something called: Dyscalculia. It’s a brain related condition that makes basic math hard to learn.

Up to 7% of elementary school children have Dyscalculia.

Schools are all about testing for reading disabilities, but I’ve never known testing for this. Maybe some do.