LIVE: Congress holds UFO hearing.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Emit1
a reply to: Spacespider

Speaking of "world" news...

The United States is just 6% of the world's land mass.
Source: www.worldometers.info...

Isn't it more likely other countries are in possession of crashed alien craft and bodies of pilots/passengers?

yes.. yes it is more likely

Anyone take note of Grusch softly throwing Kirkpatrick under the bus….basically not doing his job by not contacting or agreeing to meet with Grusch?

Grusch first mentioned it in the news nation interview…..and now he basically says the same thing…..for the congressional record, no less.

It appears there’s bad blood ……and Kirkpatrick needs to come around and meet with Grusch.

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: dragonridr

Do we even need pilots anymore? Shouldn’t we have a non-pilot military fighter jet, being flown by AI instead?

I didn’t read anything of the new fighter having AI incorporated.

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First point:


"Biologics" does not necessarily refer to "bodies", human, humanoid, animal, or otherwise. Nor does it necessarily refer to limbs or other organs.


In the sense of this context, "biologics" could be referencing tissues of a non-mechanical nature found as part of the recovered craft.


Hypothesis:


AI may be sufficient to pilot an advance vehicle within the confines of a planetary atmosphere, and in fact, within the bounds of "normal" 3-dimensional space outside an atmosphere; but something "else" might be necessary to navigate, or to even access, the realms necessary to traverse the vast distances of interstellar spacetime.

Something with direct access to the quantum realm; a "wet" brain. Or, at least biological neuronal tissue.


The "biologics" recovered could very well be the vehicle's "navigator".

From the script of Twilight Zone’s “People Are Alike All Over” 1960…… It’s about going to Mars

Marcusson?

Mm?

Are you afraid?

I don't think so, are you?

I am. Very.

It's different with you. You're trained for it.

It's not the same with me. I'm a scientist, a biologist. My world is one of books and slides and microscopes.

I'm being sent up there because they need my mind. And it's a pity they can't just send that. Leave the body back here where it belongs. Just send the mind.

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originally posted by: JKLTO

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: JKLTO

Might be important to note that the term "biologics" doesn't necessarily mean "bodies", or even body parts (ie. limbs, organs, etc.).

"Biologics" could" refer to any non-inorganic material which could include tissue(s), or even tissue-like structures interfacing with, or acting as, control systems.

Interdimensional humanoid ectoplasm

Maybe! 😆

Assuming what the whistleblowers are talking about is accurate and there really are beings of extraterrestrial origin who've made an effort to visit Earth, in the flesh...then I'm like 99.999999% certain that any such entities are either fully interdimensional, or are of the same dimension as us but are capable of interdimensional travel.

I say this because I just don't believe that physical/material/velocity-based FTL travel is possible - in truth, I have serious doubts about the realistic viability of anything that would violate FTL across large distances, including interdimensional shortcuts. As such, the idea that any race of intelligent beings would ever make such a journey across the (presumably vast) distances of space just to dick around on Earth just seems utterly ludicrous, if not outright impossible.

Even at light speed travel, it would take beings from another star system several years - if not decades, centuries, or eons - to reach us, and the resources needed for such a visit would seemingly have to be much larger than anything that we can currently envision. At extremely fast, relativistic, but sub-light speed travel, any being on course to Earth from another system would be looking at several decades or centuries at the absolute minimum, and literally tens if not hundreds of thousands or millions of years just within our local group alone.

That's just way too far for actual physical entities to travel imo - regardlessof their level technology. As such, if we really are being visited by ETs, then these beings most realistically either:

1) Come from a parallel dimension / universe that "overlaps" with our own

2) Originate within our Solar System, with bases on the Moon or Antarctica

3) Oririginate on Earth, but are "biologically alien"

If we're dealing with Option 1, then any such beings would probably be utilizing some kind of rift that would allow them to bridge dimensions. If this separate dimension is spatially superimposed over our own, then traveling between this rift wouldn't violate the limit of lightspeed travel - for all I know, their realm could look just like Earth and occupied the same point in reality, and phasing between the two might be more or less instantaneous - but, that's obviously speculative. Although I'm not a religious type, I also wouldn't rule out the possibility of these types of entities being literal demons or angels - or something that would at least strongly align with traditional (and perhaps accurate) depictions of such beings.

With the 2nd Option, I think we're probably looking at beings who occupy the Moon, or some other relatively close, massive object - whether or not they would actually natively originate from the Moon or nearby object, or are simply utilizing these locations as temporary/periodic base(s) of operations is another question entirely. Either way, the Moon would be a very practical place from which to study Earth - especially if ETs were interested in performing manned expeditions to and from our planet's sky and surface. Antarctica would also be ideal, especially if they these beings are interested in living here full time, as it were.

And, with Option 3, we've got the emergence of terrestrial, likely sub-surface life that is so evolutionarily distinct from us that they may as well be alien (humanoid ectoplasm!) If these beings emerged from an entirely separate abiogenesis, then that their DNA (or whatever would constitute their genetic structure) would be 100% different from anything that we know of in our own biosphere, and we would thus have no common ancestor. Although it's doubtful that a shadow biosphere of that magnitude could exist for so long without detection, we've also barely dug below the surface of the Earth - like, not even a mile - so I think it's definitely worth considering that possibility.

I could go on for days about the "less likely" options, but I've already written far more than I intended, so I think I'll leave it at that for now.

Till we get more concrete information I dig hearing theories, no matter how less likely.

I go back to the old 90s then Soviet Russia Alien lifeforms pdf's that alleged there were 52 different alien races that had visited earth.

Valiant Thor

A new interview with Burchett calling the DOD/Pentagon war pigs or pimps said they were blocked from a SCIF

originally posted by: carewemust
Speaking of "world" news...

The United States is just 6% of the world's land mass.
Source: www.worldometers.info...

Isn't it more likely other countries are in possession of crashed alien craft and bodies of pilots/passengers?

All else being equal, perhaps that would be so, but all else is not equal.

For example, if industrial slag is found in other countries, I suspect people in those other countries might not get as excited about it and start claiming it's wreckage from an alien spacecraft, etcetera.

Tom DeLonge's UFO Research Company Paid $35,000 for 'Exotic' Metals That Might Actually Just Be Slag

Although I seem to remember that after the breakup of the soviet union in the 1990s, some UFO researchers were going to Russia and offering money to buy files and materials that were previously secret, or recovered materials from UFOs. Not all of that activity was legit, and if the Russians saw an opportunity to make a buck selling slag to a gullible UFO researcher, they probably would have done it.

Hi folks....yes its me Celltypspecific... I remember when you all laughed 3 years ago.

You did not TRUST BIG LUE.... I guess BIG LUE and I were right after all

I hope miremen is ok... I am sure he's suffering ontological shock

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: KKLOCO

From Joe Murgia Twitter post…..

(My bolding)
If you're one of those folks poking fun at how David Grusch speaks, or is buying into the idea that, "Grusch is being deceptive because his body language says so"?

Ross Coulthart: "It doesn't take into account the quite understandable differences between somebody who, on Dave's admission, he's autistic, and he was also talking about the most incredible story in human history. I think he can be excused for feeling slightly nervous."

Coulhart is to ufology as Knapp is in my estimation---but back to Grusch, this very well might translate to "Too much of the public isn't buying Grusch's bad acting job, lets call it autism."

Grusch can do "Cocky" but can't sell the goods. I mean I can understand why. They have him trying to sell some pretty stale and questionable mythology.

a reply to: The GUT


Hmmmm. All so interesting!

a reply to: Celltype


You posted the same on the other thread Celty. But then again that is something you have liked doing. In the past that is.

The guy is very slick. Or, more likely, his handlers are slick... He has to claim crimes of these mysterious gov insiders or he couldn’t be a whistleblower. One has to blow the whistle on a crime, I think, not betray your insider buddy’s just because they're doing classified ufo stuff and you think the public should know.

He’s NOT, IMO, a “whistleblower’ unlike Snowden, who paid the price of a real whistleblower, not Grusch, who still hides behind the wall of classified permanent silence.

So bottom line, their telling us we all have to become Congress persons in order to get disclosure.

They ought to deputize the whole nation as Congress in order to tell us what’s really going on.

Haven’t posted in ages. Can anyone shed light on the whistleblower as far as his access to the information? Is it reasonable to believe that he could have gained the knowledge that he testified to? Thanks

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: KKLOCO

From Joe Murgia Twitter post…..

(My bolding)
If you're one of those folks poking fun at how David Grusch speaks, or is buying into the idea that, "Grusch is being deceptive because his body language says so"?

Ross Coulthart: "It doesn't take into account the quite understandable differences between somebody who, on Dave's admission, he's autistic, and he was also talking about the most incredible story in human history. I think he can be excused for feeling slightly nervous."

“but back to Grusch, this very well might translate to "Too much of the public isn't buying Grusch's bad acting job, lets call it autism."

Grusch can do "Cocky" but can't sell the goods. I mean I can understand why. They have him trying to sell some pretty stale and questionable mythology.”


Spot on. My fathers ex-girlfriend had 3 autistic sons. All of them to a variable degrees. With the middle being the most severe. I actually lived with all of them for 6 months. I’m no expert, but I can honestly say that from my experience, Grusch is not autistic. Additionally, people mention him being nervous. I don’t see that at all. I see a dude on a serious adrenaline high. He’s VERY proud of himself.

And who prepped him on all the proper political jargon he cited? I don’t believe he knew that by himself. If my memory serves me correctly, he didn’t state any of that in the initial interviews.

Other than Grusch being full of himself…..I don’t see him compared to the characteristics of a person with autism….

Top Signs and Symptoms of Autism

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originally posted by: syrinx high priest
Haven’t posted in ages. Can anyone shed light on the whistleblower as far as his access to the information? Is it reasonable to believe that he could have gained the knowledge that he testified to? Thanks

He’s personally seen nothing. All word of mouth, supposedly from high-ranking intelligence officials.

The dudes being used.

a reply to: The GUT

lol mythology.

Let’s spell it out; what is motivating Mr. Grusch?

I don’t want to be too hard on him, but here are some of the possibilities.

Is he a sincere whistleblower?

Is he part or an extension of the TTSA psyop?

Or some other gov psyop?

A lone wolf with a hero complex?

Or a man with good intentions just led astray by his contact with the ufo information he’s been exposed to?

Or some unmentioned reason?

For the Congressional Record…how about ratcheting it up a bit…..

How about issuing subpoena‘s (notice I didn’t say courteously invite) to the CEO’s of ….

Lockheed Martin Skunk Works
Boeing
Northrop Grumman

…..to testify before Congress.

What’s the downside?

They deny a court ordered subpoena?
They answer questions by pleading the 5th amendment?
They would be breaking their own companies internal NDA’s?

Yes…it may be a waist of time…..but it will show their unwillingness to be transparent to the people. Raising of course, suspicion among the new population of UAP interested citizens.

They should be able to answer to where the tax dollars are going too.

If anything the testimony will be on the record…..and woe onto them if they purger themselves then, or in the future.

Any thoughts?

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The whole thing is such obvious nonsense. If there was any truth to it there would be a scientist or engineer with him who had actually seen the crashed craft or the "biologics". The fact is there's just this shifty looking guy telling us that he's heard stories from people who saw an alien craft, with Jeremy Corbell sitting in the background.

It was like a particularly bad episode of skinwalker ranch. I was expecting AOC or Gatz to pull out some weird electronic device and then start panicking and yelling "These readings don't make any sense!"

There's more chance of the Pentagon releasing the 9/11 crash videos and the Osama assassination tapes together on the same day, than there is of one piece of actual evidence of crashed UFOs ever becoming public.

a reply to: introufo

Or some other gov psyop?

This one. They are doubling down.