Republicans offer a positive move on abortion

a reply to: network dude

Not saying it isn't a good thing, the problem is the Republican stance only seems to be "let's take of the child while they are in the womb. As soon as they leave the womb, f**k them." If I'm wrong point to the Republican backed policies that expand social funding for schools, child poverty, child-specific healthcare funding, funded childcare, etc.

Despite being left leaning I agree with the Republicans stance on abortion. The issue I have is once they are born, they no longer care at all.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: network dude

We are all paying for health insurance now anyways.

then I don't understand your argument.

a reply to: network dude

That it should be a constitutional right.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: quintessentone

I like that non-answer.

You are against a measure that would help mothers. And your reason is politics. Disgusting.

when all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I'm not alone in seeing this as a half measure, half assed attempt at what? Political positioning? If it even passes.

My God, the blindness you have is astounding. When the Dem's had control of everything, they did exactly jack sh!t about abortion, every time. Right now, this very minute, the R's are trying to offer something positive about this to turn the focus off of the SCOTUS ruling. So the point is, when it comes to politicians, yes, everything is political. The Dems could have fixed all this, but choose to keep it as a wedge issue, and it falls in with all the other wedge issues nobody wants to fix, as they serve much better as political cudgels. This is basic politics 101, you really need to learn a bit before you post much more.

Talking about reading more before you post, here ya go.

www.cbpp.org...

wouldn't low income or no income families already be getting Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP benefits along with other benefits to the poor? If you gave me the option for a $2000 tax credit for free medical for everyone, I'd be all over the free medical. That sh!t's expensive. The one's getting it are getting a massive benefit. But if you feel they should continue getting more, suggest that, as this bill has only been proposed. it's not a law yet.

Yes, some programs but with these child poverty numbers, it sure looks like they don't get much or it doesn't make a dent.

Cash assistance, allowances, rental and housing support, SNAP/TANF benefits, unemployment, and other inclusive economic programs provide crucial reinforcements. As we advocate for these supports, we must also take a longer view to more deeply enact systemic and structural change that will allow our children to thrive.

Systemic racism ingrained into our American institutions has been a historical roadblock perpetuating child poverty. Current statistics indicate the ongoing effectiveness of the roadblocks in pushing the American Dream of economic mobility further out of reach, especially for Black and Brown children (see Table 2).

Among the 74 million children living in the United States, 11 million live in poverty.
One in six children under 5 (3 million children) were poor, the highest rate of any age group.
The pandemic forced children already in poverty even deeper into poverty. Almost half (47%) of all children living in poverty live in severe or extreme poverty, a number which rose from 4.5 million before the pandemic to 5.5 million in 2021.
The South, home to 47% of children in our country who live in poverty, experiences the highest child poverty rates with 1 in 5 children living in poverty.
9 million children faced hunger and food insecurity.
4 million children lived without health insurance.

www.childrensdefense.org...

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: network dude

That it should be a constitutional right.

are you aware of the process to get an amendment to the COTUS? there is a process. And if it's a popular idea that everyone wants, it might work. So while we are waiting, what nation's socialist healthcare model should we emulate?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: quintessentone

I like that non-answer.

You are against a measure that would help mothers. And your reason is politics. Disgusting.

when all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I'm not alone in seeing this as a half measure, half assed attempt at what? Political positioning? If it even passes.

My God, the blindness you have is astounding. When the Dem's had control of everything, they did exactly jack sh!t about abortion, every time. Right now, this very minute, the R's are trying to offer something positive about this to turn the focus off of the SCOTUS ruling. So the point is, when it comes to politicians, yes, everything is political. The Dems could have fixed all this, but choose to keep it as a wedge issue, and it falls in with all the other wedge issues nobody wants to fix, as they serve much better as political cudgels. This is basic politics 101, you really need to learn a bit before you post much more.

Talking about reading more before you post, here ya go.

www.cbpp.org...

wouldn't low income or no income families already be getting Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP benefits along with other benefits to the poor? If you gave me the option for a $2000 tax credit for free medical for everyone, I'd be all over the free medical. That sh!t's expensive. The one's getting it are getting a massive benefit. But if you feel they should continue getting more, suggest that, as this bill has only been proposed. it's not a law yet.

Yes, some programs but with these child poverty numbers, it sure looks like they don't get much or it doesn't make a dent.

Cash assistance, allowances, rental and housing support, SNAP/TANF benefits, unemployment, and other inclusive economic programs provide crucial reinforcements. As we advocate for these supports, we must also take a longer view to more deeply enact systemic and structural change that will allow our children to thrive.

Systemic racism ingrained into our American institutions has been a historical roadblock perpetuating child poverty. Current statistics indicate the ongoing effectiveness of the roadblocks in pushing the American Dream of economic mobility further out of reach, especially for Black and Brown children (see Table 2).

Among the 74 million children living in the United States, 11 million live in poverty.
One in six children under 5 (3 million children) were poor, the highest rate of any age group.
The pandemic forced children already in poverty even deeper into poverty. Almost half (47%) of all children living in poverty live in severe or extreme poverty, a number which rose from 4.5 million before the pandemic to 5.5 million in 2021.
The South, home to 47% of children in our country who live in poverty, experiences the highest child poverty rates with 1 in 5 children living in poverty.
9 million children faced hunger and food insecurity.
4 million children lived without health insurance.

www.childrensdefense.org...

wow, there is no hope at all. may as well kill them. relish the win! you earned it! the prize? dead babies. congrats.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: network dude

That it should be a constitutional right.

are you aware of the process to get an amendment to the COTUS? there is a process. And if it's a popular idea that everyone wants, it might work. So while we are waiting, what nation's socialist healthcare model should we emulate?

Emulate the healthcare systems in countries where it works.

Key findings: “The top-performing countries overall are Norway, the Netherlands, and Australia. The United States ranks last overall, despite spending far more of its gross domestic product on health care.

www.internationalinsurance.com...#:~:text=Healthcare%20System%20Performance%20Ranking,domestic%20product%20on%20health%20care.

a reply to: network dude

...like a bunch of women on their period complaining about how men will never know the complexities of a woman's body, and in the next breath screaming that you MUST use the correct pronouns when addressing the man who is wearing a dress and wishes/demands to be called She/Her.

LOL

Misogynous deflective strawman much?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: quintessentone

I like that non-answer.

You are against a measure that would help mothers. And your reason is politics. Disgusting.

when all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I'm not alone in seeing this as a half measure, half assed attempt at what? Political positioning? If it even passes.

My God, the blindness you have is astounding. When the Dem's had control of everything, they did exactly jack sh!t about abortion, every time. Right now, this very minute, the R's are trying to offer something positive about this to turn the focus off of the SCOTUS ruling. So the point is, when it comes to politicians, yes, everything is political. The Dems could have fixed all this, but choose to keep it as a wedge issue, and it falls in with all the other wedge issues nobody wants to fix, as they serve much better as political cudgels. This is basic politics 101, you really need to learn a bit before you post much more.

Talking about reading more before you post, here ya go.

www.cbpp.org...

wouldn't low income or no income families already be getting Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP benefits along with other benefits to the poor? If you gave me the option for a $2000 tax credit for free medical for everyone, I'd be all over the free medical. That sh!t's expensive. The one's getting it are getting a massive benefit. But if you feel they should continue getting more, suggest that, as this bill has only been proposed. it's not a law yet.

Yes, some programs but with these child poverty numbers, it sure looks like they don't get much or it doesn't make a dent.

Cash assistance, allowances, rental and housing support, SNAP/TANF benefits, unemployment, and other inclusive economic programs provide crucial reinforcements. As we advocate for these supports, we must also take a longer view to more deeply enact systemic and structural change that will allow our children to thrive.

Systemic racism ingrained into our American institutions has been a historical roadblock perpetuating child poverty. Current statistics indicate the ongoing effectiveness of the roadblocks in pushing the American Dream of economic mobility further out of reach, especially for Black and Brown children (see Table 2).

Among the 74 million children living in the United States, 11 million live in poverty.
One in six children under 5 (3 million children) were poor, the highest rate of any age group.
The pandemic forced children already in poverty even deeper into poverty. Almost half (47%) of all children living in poverty live in severe or extreme poverty, a number which rose from 4.5 million before the pandemic to 5.5 million in 2021.
The South, home to 47% of children in our country who live in poverty, experiences the highest child poverty rates with 1 in 5 children living in poverty.
9 million children faced hunger and food insecurity.
4 million children lived without health insurance.

www.childrensdefense.org...

wow, there is no hope at all. may as well kill them. relish the win! you earned it! the prize? dead babies. congrats.

Remember this?

" See, when you start with "all" it implies you aren't very good at thinking."

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: quintessentone

I like that non-answer.

You are against a measure that would help mothers. And your reason is politics. Disgusting.

when all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I'm not alone in seeing this as a half measure, half assed attempt at what? Political positioning? If it even passes.

My God, the blindness you have is astounding. When the Dem's had control of everything, they did exactly jack sh!t about abortion, every time. Right now, this very minute, the R's are trying to offer something positive about this to turn the focus off of the SCOTUS ruling. So the point is, when it comes to politicians, yes, everything is political. The Dems could have fixed all this, but choose to keep it as a wedge issue, and it falls in with all the other wedge issues nobody wants to fix, as they serve much better as political cudgels. This is basic politics 101, you really need to learn a bit before you post much more.

Talking about reading more before you post, here ya go.

www.cbpp.org...

wouldn't low income or no income families already be getting Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP benefits along with other benefits to the poor? If you gave me the option for a $2000 tax credit for free medical for everyone, I'd be all over the free medical. That sh!t's expensive. The one's getting it are getting a massive benefit. But if you feel they should continue getting more, suggest that, as this bill has only been proposed. it's not a law yet.

Yes, some programs but with these child poverty numbers, it sure looks like they don't get much or it doesn't make a dent.

Cash assistance, allowances, rental and housing support, SNAP/TANF benefits, unemployment, and other inclusive economic programs provide crucial reinforcements. As we advocate for these supports, we must also take a longer view to more deeply enact systemic and structural change that will allow our children to thrive.

Systemic racism ingrained into our American institutions has been a historical roadblock perpetuating child poverty. Current statistics indicate the ongoing effectiveness of the roadblocks in pushing the American Dream of economic mobility further out of reach, especially for Black and Brown children (see Table 2).

Among the 74 million children living in the United States, 11 million live in poverty.
One in six children under 5 (3 million children) were poor, the highest rate of any age group.
The pandemic forced children already in poverty even deeper into poverty. Almost half (47%) of all children living in poverty live in severe or extreme poverty, a number which rose from 4.5 million before the pandemic to 5.5 million in 2021.
The South, home to 47% of children in our country who live in poverty, experiences the highest child poverty rates with 1 in 5 children living in poverty.
9 million children faced hunger and food insecurity.
4 million children lived without health insurance.

www.childrensdefense.org...

wow, there is no hope at all. may as well kill them. relish the win! you earned it! the prize? dead babies. congrats.

Remember this?

" See, when you start with "all" it implies you aren't very good at thinking."

LOL, I don't think you understand this at all. (see, I used the word "all", but I don't think it means what you think it means) Let me know if I need to "mansplain" it to you. I'm good with that today.

a reply to: quintessentone

Where's the money for women's mental illness, post-partum depression, financial aid if their child gets very ill or if they get very ill, addiction etc.

Per law , the father .

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

...like a bunch of women on their period complaining about how men will never know the complexities of a woman's body, and in the next breath screaming that you MUST use the correct pronouns when addressing the man who is wearing a dress and wishes/demands to be called She/Her.

LOL

Misogynous deflective strawman much?

yep, I do it because it makes me smile.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: quintessentone

Where's the money for women's mental illness, post-partum depression, financial aid if their child gets very ill or if they get very ill, addiction etc.

Per law , the father .

Maybe then maybe not - you can't get blood from a stone.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: quintessentone

The only thing I've seen the Left fighting for is the right to kill the kid so you don't have to worry about all that inconvenient stuff like breast feeding or changing diapers.

So gross…

You all are desperate.

And to think of all the severely handicapped children that will be born. They’ll get three months - woo hoo.

a reply to: network dude

It will never pass the Senate.

What it does is recognize the living human while in utero, something the democrats cannot do.

a reply to: DBCowboy

something the democrats cannot do.

It’s all so damn comical with those guys.
They can’t even define what a woman is, why should we take them serious with all the blathering about abortion?

originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: DBCowboy

something the democrats cannot do.

It’s all so damn comical with those guys.
They can’t even define what a woman is, why should we take them serious with all the blathering about abortion?

Remember when they said, "You can't comment on abortion unless you're a woman". . . . .

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: quintessentone

I like that non-answer.

You are against a measure that would help mothers. And your reason is politics. Disgusting.

when all you got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I'm not alone in seeing this as a half measure, half assed attempt at what? Political positioning? If it even passes.

My God, the blindness you have is astounding. When the Dem's had control of everything, they did exactly jack sh!t about abortion, every time. Right now, this very minute, the R's are trying to offer something positive about this to turn the focus off of the SCOTUS ruling. So the point is, when it comes to politicians, yes, everything is political. The Dems could have fixed all this, but choose to keep it as a wedge issue, and it falls in with all the other wedge issues nobody wants to fix, as they serve much better as political cudgels. This is basic politics 101, you really need to learn a bit before you post much more.

Talking about reading more before you post, here ya go.

www.cbpp.org...

wouldn't low income or no income families already be getting Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP benefits along with other benefits to the poor? If you gave me the option for a $2000 tax credit for free medical for everyone, I'd be all over the free medical. That sh!t's expensive. The one's getting it are getting a massive benefit. But if you feel they should continue getting more, suggest that, as this bill has only been proposed. it's not a law yet.

Yes, some programs but with these child poverty numbers, it sure looks like they don't get much or it doesn't make a dent.

Cash assistance, allowances, rental and housing support, SNAP/TANF benefits, unemployment, and other inclusive economic programs provide crucial reinforcements. As we advocate for these supports, we must also take a longer view to more deeply enact systemic and structural change that will allow our children to thrive.

Systemic racism ingrained into our American institutions has been a historical roadblock perpetuating child poverty. Current statistics indicate the ongoing effectiveness of the roadblocks in pushing the American Dream of economic mobility further out of reach, especially for Black and Brown children (see Table 2).

Among the 74 million children living in the United States, 11 million live in poverty.
One in six children under 5 (3 million children) were poor, the highest rate of any age group.
The pandemic forced children already in poverty even deeper into poverty. Almost half (47%) of all children living in poverty live in severe or extreme poverty, a number which rose from 4.5 million before the pandemic to 5.5 million in 2021.
The South, home to 47% of children in our country who live in poverty, experiences the highest child poverty rates with 1 in 5 children living in poverty.
9 million children faced hunger and food insecurity.
4 million children lived without health insurance.

www.childrensdefense.org...

wow, there is no hope at all. may as well kill them. relish the win! you earned it! the prize? dead babies. congrats.

Remember this?

" See, when you start with "all" it implies you aren't very good at thinking."

LOL, I don't think you understand this at all. (see, I used the word "all", but I don't think it means what you think it means) Let me know if I need to "mansplain" it to you. I'm good with that today.

I was going to reply with 'do more' for the win. But, if we realize what confusion Georgia is going through with the same tax exemption for fetuses (source below) then it leaves me with no hope in hell that this will work.

ca.news.yahoo.com...

originally posted by: knoxie

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: quintessentone

The only thing I've seen the Left fighting for is the right to kill the kid so you don't have to worry about all that inconvenient stuff like breast feeding or changing diapers.

So gross…

You all are desperate.

And to think of all the severely handicapped children that will be born. They’ll get three months - woo hoo.

Somebody is being disengenious.

But then, this is totally expected.

originally posted by: knoxie

And to think of all the severely handicapped children that will be born.

Well you seem to be doing ok so why not them?