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Sweden dumps climate agenda and scraps green energy targets

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posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: tanstaafl

I think you're confusing Venus with Mercury , Venus isn't that much closer to the Sun than Earth.
I think you don't understand just how much of a different 26,000,000 miles is (the earth is 93,000,000, Venus is 67,000,000 miles).



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: JumpTheGun76
a reply to: AlienBorg


Ah I see. You now have no arguments and you're clutching at the straws again.


Nope! I am just telling yoh that yoh are a trump supporter! I can tell a trump supporters from a mile away!🤣🤣🤣🤣


To clarify. You don't have any data to back up the apocalyptic scenarios that show the end of times following carbon emissions. If you have then present them.

There is a difference between warming up and compete destruction due to the use of fossil fuels just as the woke and green agendas claim. Which are baseless.


We know that the eorld is warming at an alarming rate, we know that millions of people have been displaced by the climate change in the ladt 20 years, expecially in countries like Africa! We know that ice is melting in the artic and antarctic at an alarming rate because they have data that proves that!

We know that eith the ice melting, sea levels will rise! We know that more animals are becoming exting in the lat hundred years because of the climate!

But this is all lies from the media right, and not actually scientists with data!


You made a claim in Sweden they don't believe in climate change.
.I am waiting for the proof.


What proof! They did not say in the article that they do not believe in man made image change! Where in the article did they say that! Jesus!


can't see any proof for the claim you made in Sweden they don't believe in climate change.


Because their reason for doing a youturn had nothing to do with not believing in climate change!


You find it difficult to answer why do you think in Sweden they don't believe in climate change. I don't think you will find no matter how much you try.


How can I prove or disprove something they did not say? You are either not to bright, or you are just trolling now!











If you invoke Trump in this conversation it means you've lost the argument already. Nothing to do at all with what we discuss.

You made a claim that in Sweden they don't believe in climate change. You need some evidence to back it up and I will ask you for proof.

How do you know the world is warming at an alarming rate? Data please. On the top of this where is the evidence for this alarmism you have been discussing. How the warming up will lead to the end of times for our planet and the human race? You need to have very strong evidence to make these claims.
edit on 9-7-2023 by AlienBorg because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 9 2023 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Here is what you said


Also! The reason for Sweden doing this is because they do not believe climate change is man made! They explained perfectly why they are doing this! They badically have to, does not mean they want too!


You said they don't believe in climate change (by this we mean anthropogenic climate change). But how did you deduce it?

Climate change has many factors. Unless you think there is only one depending on what you ve been reading. But where is it they say we don't believe in anthropogenic climate change? I see nothing in the claim you made.


edit on 9-7-2023 by AlienBorg because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 01:47 AM
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I think more countries need to give nuclear more consideration. SMRs could be the future.



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 02:10 AM
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originally posted by: wlavallee1
I think more countries need to give nuclear more consideration. SMRs could be the future.


True.

My view hasn't changed on the quality and efficiency of the current energy sources we use. It's not an accident we are dependent on fossil fuels and nuclear energy for most of our energy needs. They are the more efficient and reliable sources of energy covering most of our energy needs.

The rest are just expensive supplements, unreliable and very expensive to run.



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 02:51 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg
a reply to: JumpTheGun76

You find it difficult to answer why do you think in Sweden they don't believe in climate change. I don't think you will find no matter how much you try.



One more time! Because they did not say that! Nothing in the article did they say they do not believe in man made climate change! They said they had to do what they had to do because if short-term energy security! That is what they said!



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: wdkirk
If you lead into your argument with calling someone a trump supporter, you lose the argument. You don’t lead with a supposed insult.


I am just stating facts! He is a trump supporter, and as we know, fanatical trump supporters believe everything he says! From covid, climate, to trans people!

It's not to see the pattern on here! Anyway, j do not need the trump argument to ein this debate! Just pointing it out!



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 02:56 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: wdkirk
If you lead into your argument with calling someone a trump supporter, you lose the argument. You don’t lead with a supposed insult.


They ve made one false claim after the other and in the end thrown the trump card. Probably a teenager roaming in the internet.


What false limits have I made exactly? Can you list the false claim! You have completley dodged my posts on why climate is a big issue! You have lied about Sweden when they did not not say they do not believe in man made climate change, and I have pointed this out to you how many times now?



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:02 AM
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you invoke Trump in this conversation it means you've lost the argument already. Nothing to do at all with what we discuss.
a reply to: AlienBorg

Bringing up that you are a trumpet has nothing to do with trying to ein the argument! I have done that already!

Yoh saying you are not a trump supporter when you are, pretty much says it all!


You made a claim that in Sweden they don't believe in climate change. You need some evidence to back it up and I will ask you for proof.


Nope! You made the claim that Sweden do not believe in climate change, from an article where they never mentioned that and said they were doing it because they had concerns about short-term energy in the country! How is that saying they do not believe in man made climate change?



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:06 AM
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originally posted by: JumpTheGun76

originally posted by: AlienBorg
a reply to: JumpTheGun76

You find it difficult to answer why do you think in Sweden they don't believe in climate change. I don't think you will find no matter how much you try.



One more time! Because they did not say that! Nothing in the article did they say they do not believe in man made climate change! They said they had to do what they had to do because if short-term energy security! That is what they said!



Also! The reason for Sweden doing this is because they do not believe climate change is man made! They explained perfectly why they are doing this! They badically have to, does not mean they want too!


Your words. You have said they don't believe in climate change (anthropogenic you meant).

There is nothing there showing they don't. So your claims are baseless



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:07 AM
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originally posted by: JumpTheGun76

you invoke Trump in this conversation it means you've lost the argument already. Nothing to do at all with what we discuss.
a reply to: AlienBorg

Bringing up that you are a trumpet has nothing to do with trying to ein the argument! I have done that already!

Yoh saying you are not a trump supporter when you are, pretty much says it all!


You made a claim that in Sweden they don't believe in climate change. You need some evidence to back it up and I will ask you for proof.


Nope! You made the claim that Sweden do not believe in climate change, from an article where they never mentioned that and said they were doing it because they had concerns about short-term energy in the country! How is that saying they do not believe in man made climate change?





Invoking Trump in the conversations means you ve got no valid arguments.

It's time to admit you lost the argument.



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: JumpTheGun76

you invoke Trump in this conversation it means you've lost the argument already. Nothing to do at all with what we discuss.
a reply to: AlienBorg

Bringing up that you are a trumpet has nothing to do with trying to ein the argument! I have done that already!

Yoh saying you are not a trump supporter when you are, pretty much says it all!


You made a claim that in Sweden they don't believe in climate change. You need some evidence to back it up and I will ask you for proof.









Nope! You made the claim that Sweden do not believe in climate change, from an article where they never mentioned that and said they were doing it because they had concerns about short-term energy in the country! How is that saying they do not believe in man made climate change?


Never made this argument.
You seem confused I am afraid.

If you can show me where I made the argument....



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg


How do you know the world is warming at an alarming rate? Data please. On the top of this where is the evidence for this alarmism you have been discussing. How the warming up will lead to the end of times for our planet and the human race? You need to have very strong evidence to make these claims.


It's not bloody hard to find online! Maybe do a bit of research yourself!

Earth's temperature has risen by an average of 0.14° Fahrenheit (0.08° Celsius) per decade since 1880, or about 2° F in total.

The rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice as fast: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade.

The rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice as fast: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade.

The 2022 surface temperature was 1.55 °F (0.86 °Celsius) warmer than the 20th-century average of 57.0 °F (13.9 °C) and 1.90 ˚F (1.06 ˚C) warmer than the pre-industrial period (1880-1900).

The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred since 2010.

This is data collected over decades of research! You can view it yourself online!

So if the temperature keeps on rising, marine life will start to vanish, corol reefs will begin tk disappear, ice will melt meaning sea levels will rise, lack of rain means farms will be devastated!

The data is there!



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:11 AM
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originally posted by: JumpTheGun76
a reply to: AlienBorg


How do you know the world is warming at an alarming rate? Data please. On the top of this where is the evidence for this alarmism you have been discussing. How the warming up will lead to the end of times for our planet and the human race? You need to have very strong evidence to make these claims.


It's not bloody hard to find online! Maybe do a bit of research yourself!

Earth's temperature has risen by an average of 0.14° Fahrenheit (0.08° Celsius) per decade since 1880, or about 2° F in total.

The rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice as fast: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade.

The rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice as fast: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade.

The 2022 surface temperature was 1.55 °F (0.86 °Celsius) warmer than the 20th-century average of 57.0 °F (13.9 °C) and 1.90 ˚F (1.06 ˚C) warmer than the pre-industrial period (1880-1900).

The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred since 2010.

This is data collected over decades of research! You can view it yourself online!

So if the temperature keeps on rising, marine life will start to vanish, corol reefs will begin tk disappear, ice will melt meaning sea levels will rise, lack of rain means farms will be devastated!

The data is there!











That's not an alarming rate.
That's alarmism which has no basis in reality.


So if the temperature keeps on rising, marine life will start to vanish, corol reefs will begin tk disappear, ice will melt meaning sea levels will rise, lack of rain means farms will be devastated


No evidence for this exists
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posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:11 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg


You said they don't believe in climate change (by this we mean anthropogenic climate change). But how did you deduce it?

Climate change has many factors. Unless you think there is only one depending on what you ve been reading. But where is it they say we don't believe in anthropogenic climate change? I see nothing in the claim you made.


Nope! Yoh are just completley ignoring my points and keep on saying where is the data! Obviously you have not looked at the data snd your mind is made up!



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:14 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg


Your words. You have said they don't believe in climate change (anthropogenic you meant).

There is nothing there showing they don't. So your claims are baseless


Learn to read! I said man made! They not once said that man made climate change is not real! Not once did they say this! And I have had to explain to you what they actually said a few times now, but you do not seem to listen!



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:14 AM
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originally posted by: JumpTheGun76
a reply to: AlienBorg


You said they don't believe in climate change (by this we mean anthropogenic climate change). But how did you deduce it?

Climate change has many factors. Unless you think there is only one depending on what you ve been reading. But where is it they say we don't believe in anthropogenic climate change? I see nothing in the claim you made.


Nope! Yoh are just completley ignoring my points and keep on saying where is the data! Obviously you have not looked at the data snd your mind is made up!


You haven't made any valid points.
You're going by the end of the world rhetoric based on the warming up of the planet. There is no evidence for any climate change apocalyptic scenario. If you have any show me.



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:16 AM
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originally posted by: JumpTheGun76
a reply to: AlienBorg


Your words. You have said they don't believe in climate change (anthropogenic you meant).

There is nothing there showing they don't. So your claims are baseless


Learn to read! I said man made! They not once said that man made climate change is not real! Not once did they say this! And I have had to explain to you what they actually said a few times now, but you do not seem to listen!



Anthropogenic and man made are the one and the same.


Also! The reason for Sweden doing this is because they do not believe climate change is man made! They explained perfectly why they are doing this! They badically have to, does not mean they want too!


This is what you said.
Any proof on this?



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:17 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg


That's not an alarming rate.
That's alarmism which has no basis in reality.


So if the temperature keeps on rising, marine life will start to vanish, corol reefs will begin tk disappear, ice will melt meaning sea levels will rise, lack of rain means farms will be devastated



No evidence for this exists


What, because its not in our lifetime, that means it's not an alarming rate? Are you being serious here!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Again! You have absolutley no clue what you are talking about! You do not care about the data! You have not looked at the data obviously!



posted on Jul, 10 2023 @ 03:17 AM
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a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Hoe do you know in Sweden they don't believe in climate change (man made- anthropogenic)



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