Sweden dumps climate agenda and scraps green energy targets

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

a reply to: AlienBorg

There was a heatwave in April 2018.
London recorded a maximum temperature of 29.1 °C making this the UK's warmest. April day since 1949.

There must have been global warming in 1949 lol.

a reply to: AlienBorg

We had a hot summer......that's if summer is a couple of weeks in June.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

We had a hot summer......that's if summer is a couple of weeks in June.

I get it.
BBC reporting...

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

But I said the hottest summer so far. It's the middle of July and for someone or some newspapers to try to convince the audience this is the hottest summer it's pretty much a desperate attempt and we know what motivates these headlines. I ve looked at your weather and temperatures over the last few weeks and you seem to have a pretty cool summer. Especially on July.

What I don't want to hear is climate change ideology. The rest is fine and the data is fine. The interpretations are not fine by the way and the out of context comments/conclusions.

Edit

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

I ve looked at your weather and temperatures over the last few weeks and you seem to have a pretty cool summer. Especially on July.

But as I keep pointing out, that's not the case. June was the hottest on record and July - so far - has been about average. And I've been directly observing and reporting on the weather here for over 20 years. Why won't you believe me?

(I do agree though that you should take anything in the media - especially their headlines - with a pinch of salt)

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

It's funny, WE had a significantly colder June than normal. In fact my thermostat report shows that that average temps were down 7 degrees F, from last year. I wonder what that means compared to your observations?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

It's funny, WE had a significantly colder June than normal. In fact my thermostat report shows that that average temps were down 7 degrees F, from last year. I wonder what that means compared to your observations?

I don't know how that compares with the long term average - but it's the wide, global, spread of higher than average temperatures and rainfall that is significant, rather than any one region in isolation. Our hot June would not be significant (in terms of global warming trends) if most of the N Hemisphere was colder than average, for example.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

I ve looked at your weather and temperatures over the last few weeks and you seem to have a pretty cool summer. Especially on July.

But as I keep pointing out, that's not the case. June was the hottest on record and July - so far - has been about average. And I've been directly observing and reporting on the weather here for over 20 years. Why won't you believe me?

(I do agree though that you should take anything in the media - especially their headlines - with a pinch of salt)

Isolating a month or a few weeks isn't a good metric. What about the other months? May, April, March? February? January?

July and your summer so far seems cool to me. And it seems cool to others who have commented and are from the UK.


www.euronews.com...

July set to be UK's hottest month this year after record-breaking June

Temperatures in the UK look set to hit the high 30°Cs this month as the country prepares for another scorching summer.

July is set to be a scorcher in the UK with temperatures expected to reach the mid to high 30°Cs.

What on earth they're talking about??!! Everyone can take a look and see July in the UK is quite cool. The level of predictions and interpretations points out to ideologies pushed in the name of climate change.




A more realistic view it's here.

www.weatherandradar.co.uk...

Why has July been cool and unsettled?

Our July has so far been dominated largely by low pressure across the UK and Ireland. Our weather pattern has changed mainly due to a change in the jet stream.

The jet stream is a fast-flowing, meandering band of air, stationed 30,000 feet high in the atmosphere and blowing west to east across the Earth. It is the result of a large temperature gradient between the northern and southern hemisphere

Temperatures have been widely around or below-average for much of the month of July, with the start of the month in particular on the cooler side.

Much better than the unreasonable predictions on the first article and the non stop alarmism pushed by the usual suspects.

The climate change ideology is another phenomenon related to the green agenda. One comparable phenomenon is the vegan ideology. Just reminds me of a conversation I had yesterday when someone claimed humans or some of the humans are not omnivores anymore as they made a choice not to eat meat/fish... Being omnivore or herbivore seems to be a choice! It had nothing to do with how species evolved to be able to digest meat/fish/vegetables/fruits/other foods.

a reply to: AlienBorg

There's a hilarious video on the Jimmy Dore show (on yt)
"North Pole will be ice free by 2013" - Al Gore in 2009.

Jimmy Dore mentioned that it's been fact checked by Reuters......but when I just checked online.... it's been 404ed.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

There's a hilarious video on the Jimmy Dore show (on yt)
"North Pole will be ice free by 2013" - Al Gore in 2009.

Jimmy Dore mentioned that it's been fact checked by Reuters......but when I just checked online.... it's 404ed.

Al Gore is one of the Gurus of the climate change ideology.

Kudos to him for exposing it like noone else.
And Greta included.

a reply to: AlienBorg

On October 12, 2007, former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts to increase public knowledge about man-made climate change.

But he said there would be no snow on ice caps by 2013.

National Geographic are now saying....
Summer sea ice could disappear as early as 2035.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

I ve looked at your weather and temperatures over the last few weeks and you seem to have a pretty cool summer. Especially on July.

But as I keep pointing out, that's not the case. June was the hottest on record and July - so far - has been about average. And I've been directly observing and reporting on the weather here for over 20 years. Why won't you believe me?

(I do agree though that you should take anything in the media - especially their headlines - with a pinch of salt)

Isolating a month or a few weeks isn't a good metric. What about the other months? May, April, March? February? January?

All warmer than average - in some cases by over 2c

www.metoffice.gov.uk...

But in any case, it's not what one month in one little island is like, or even the whole USA (which is still just 1.9% of the planet) it's what happening across the whole globe matters.

This is a good summary of where we are right now:

www.bbc.co.uk...

(whether you want to believe it or not is up to you)


btw anyone remember Al Gore's film? It was so full of inaccuracies it made The Day After Tomorrow look like a serious documentary!

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

I ve looked at your weather and temperatures over the last few weeks and you seem to have a pretty cool summer. Especially on July.

But as I keep pointing out, that's not the case. June was the hottest on record and July - so far - has been about average. And I've been directly observing and reporting on the weather here for over 20 years. Why won't you believe me?

(I do agree though that you should take anything in the media - especially their headlines - with a pinch of salt)

Isolating a month or a few weeks isn't a good metric. What about the other months? May, April, March? February? January?

All warmer than average - in some cases by over 2c

www.metoffice.gov.uk...

But in any case, it's not what one month in one little island is like, or even the whole USA (which is still just 1.9% of the planet) it's what happening across the whole globe matters.

This is a good summary of where we are right now:

www.bbc.co.uk...

(whether you want to believe it or not is up to you)


btw anyone remember Al Gore's film? It was so full of inaccuracies it made The Day After Tomorrow look like a serious documentary!

What's happening in the globe isn't what is portrayed in the media. The alarm bell is false.

Who is going to believe July in the UK is average. It's quite cold as the matter of fact. Or that June was so hot people couldn't stand the change. June has had mostly average temperatures.

There is an agenda behind the alarm.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

I ve looked at your weather and temperatures over the last few weeks and you seem to have a pretty cool summer. Especially on July.

But as I keep pointing out, that's not the case. June was the hottest on record and July - so far - has been about average. And I've been directly observing and reporting on the weather here for over 20 years. Why won't you believe me?

(I do agree though that you should take anything in the media - especially their headlines - with a pinch of salt)

Isolating a month or a few weeks isn't a good metric. What about the other months? May, April, March? February? January?

All warmer than average - in some cases by over 2c

www.metoffice.gov.uk...

But in any case, it's not what one month in one little island is like, or even the whole USA (which is still just 1.9% of the planet) it's what happening across the whole globe matters.

This is a good summary of where we are right now:

www.bbc.co.uk...

(whether you want to believe it or not is up to you)


btw anyone remember Al Gore's film? It was so full of inaccuracies it made The Day After Tomorrow look like a serious documentary!

What's happening in the globe isn't what is portrayed in the media. The alarm bell is false.

Who is going to believe July in the UK is average. It's quite cold as the matter of fact. Or that June was so hot people couldn't stand the change. June has had mostly average temperatures.

There is an agenda behind the alarm.

You may have missed my last reply but the alarm by 'scientists' July will be the hottest with temperatures close to 40 degrees in the UK, was just a false alarm.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

I ve looked at your weather and temperatures over the last few weeks and you seem to have a pretty cool summer. Especially on July.

But as I keep pointing out, that's not the case. June was the hottest on record and July - so far - has been about average. And I've been directly observing and reporting on the weather here for over 20 years. Why won't you believe me?

(I do agree though that you should take anything in the media - especially their headlines - with a pinch of salt)

Isolating a month or a few weeks isn't a good metric. What about the other months? May, April, March? February? January?

All warmer than average - in some cases by over 2c

www.metoffice.gov.uk...

But in any case, it's not what one month in one little island is like, or even the whole USA (which is still just 1.9% of the planet) it's what happening across the whole globe matters.

This is a good summary of where we are right now:

www.bbc.co.uk...

(whether you want to believe it or not is up to you)


btw anyone remember Al Gore's film? It was so full of inaccuracies it made The Day After Tomorrow look like a serious documentary!

What's happening in the globe isn't what is portrayed in the media. The alarm bell is false.

What is portrayed in the media is what is happening all around the world - not just on one insignificant little island.

Who is going to believe July in the UK is average.

Anyone who looks at the data and doesn't have an agenda

It's quite cold as the matter of fact.

It's the coldest July since 2020!

Or that June was so hot people couldn't stand the change.

Who claimed that?

June has had mostly average temperatures.

It was the hottest on record. That's the data. Whether you want to believe the facts is up to you.

There is an agenda behind the alarm.

There's certainly an agenda behind the denial. It's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You may have missed my last reply but the alarm by 'scientists' July will be the hottest with temperatures close to 40 degrees in the UK, was just a false alarm.

We had 40c last July. There were indications back in June that the high pressure currently bringing record high temperatures to parts of Europe would be positioned a little differently and that's we'd tap into that heat again like last year.

Meanwhile, it does look like July will be the hottest on record globally.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's cold and it's pouring with rain.

Last night at the pub everyone was saying it feels like autumn.

I am going to ask you again because AndyMayhew said you have got a hot or the hottest summer in the UK.

So anyone who lives in the UK at the moment they can comment on it.

Is your summer

Hot
Normal
Cold

Is there any particular reason you are misquoting me? It's usually the tactic of those aiming to deceive people. But I am sure you're only interested in the truth - even when the truth is not what you want to hear?

I said we have had the hottest June on record.

We're barely half way through the summer so I have no idea if it'll end up a hot summer overall. July so far - as I have previously mentioned - has been near average (and I'm not expecting much change to that over the next 2 weeks).

Edit: and that's not opinion. That's not an impression. That's fact based on actual data.

I ve looked at your weather and temperatures over the last few weeks and you seem to have a pretty cool summer. Especially on July.

But as I keep pointing out, that's not the case. June was the hottest on record and July - so far - has been about average. And I've been directly observing and reporting on the weather here for over 20 years. Why won't you believe me?

(I do agree though that you should take anything in the media - especially their headlines - with a pinch of salt)

Isolating a month or a few weeks isn't a good metric. What about the other months? May, April, March? February? January?

All warmer than average - in some cases by over 2c

www.metoffice.gov.uk...

But in any case, it's not what one month in one little island is like, or even the whole USA (which is still just 1.9% of the planet) it's what happening across the whole globe matters.

This is a good summary of where we are right now:

www.bbc.co.uk...

(whether you want to believe it or not is up to you)


btw anyone remember Al Gore's film? It was so full of inaccuracies it made The Day After Tomorrow look like a serious documentary!

What's happening in the globe isn't what is portrayed in the media. The alarm bell is false.

What is portrayed in the media is what is happening all around the world - not just on one insignificant little island.

Who is going to believe July in the UK is average.

Anyone who looks at the data and doesn't have an agenda

It's quite cold as the matter of fact.

It's the coldest July since 2020!

Or that June was so hot people couldn't stand the change.

Who claimed that?

June has had mostly average temperatures.

It was the hottest on record. That's the data. Whether you want to believe the facts is up to you.

There is an agenda behind the alarm.

There's certainly an agenda behind the denial. It's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You may have missed my last reply but the alarm by 'scientists' July will be the hottest with temperatures close to 40 degrees in the UK, was just a false alarm.

We had 40c last July. There were indications back in June that the high pressure currently bringing record high temperatures to parts of Europe would be positioned a little differently and that's we'd tap into that heat again like last year.

Meanwhile, it does look like July will be the hottest on record globally.

The alarmism in the media cannot be justified. This is an agenda or in a few words a climate change ideology. .

Last July you had one day with 40 degrees Celsius. So what? This year you have one of the coldest Julys, pretty much every day is cold and rainy.

Expectations

July set to be UK's hottest month this year after record-breaking June

Temperatures in the UK look set to hit the high 30°Cs this month as the country prepares for another scorching summer.

July is set to be a scorcher in the UK with temperatures expected to reach the mid to high 30°Cs.

Reality

Why has July been cool and unsettled?

Our July has so far been dominated largely by low pressure across the UK and Ireland. Our weather pattern has changed mainly due to a change in the jet stream.

The jet stream is a fast-flowing, meandering band of air, stationed 30,000 feet high in the atmosphere and blowing west to east across the Earth. It is the result of a large temperature gradient between the northern and southern hemisphere

Temperatures have been widely around or below-average for much of the month of July, with the start of the month in particular on the cooler side.

Looking at the data and temperatures, climate change alarmism and the doomsday scenarios cannot be justified. That's for sure.

If you want to bring politics into the conversation is up to you. Most reasonable people are not convinced the world is coming to an end through global warming and that we're going to fry in the future.

a reply to: AlienBorg

a reply to: AndyMayhew

When did they start measuring the temperature at surface level for weather reports?

The animation below uses data from the Copernicus Sentinel-3 mission’s radiometer instrument and shows the land surface temperature across Italy between 9 and 10 July. As the image clearly shows, in some cities the surface of the land exceeded 45°C, including Rome, Naples, Taranto and Foggia. Along the east slopes of Mount Etna in Sicily, many temperatures were recorded as over 50°C.”

Taken from esa.

Online it says, officially temperature should be measured:

Place the thermometer 5 feet above the ground (+/- 1 ft.). A thermometer too low will pick up excess heat from the ground and a thermometer too high will likely have too cool of a temperature due to natural cooling aloft. 5 ft. is just right.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AlienBorg

a reply to: AndyMayhew

When did they start measuring the temperature at surface level for weather reports?

The animation below uses data from the Copernicus Sentinel-3 mission’s radiometer instrument and shows the land surface temperature across Italy between 9 and 10 July. As the image clearly shows, in some cities the surface of the land exceeded 45°C, including Rome, Naples, Taranto and Foggia. Along the east slopes of Mount Etna in Sicily, many temperatures were recorded as over 50°C.”

Taken from esa.

Online it says, officially temperature should be measured:

Place the thermometer 5 feet above the ground (+/- 1 ft.). A thermometer too low will pick up excess heat from the ground and a thermometer too high will likely have too cool of a temperature due to natural cooling aloft. 5 ft. is just right.

When? Since Greta became a poster child for the climate change ideology