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posted on Jul, 13 2023 @ 05:38 AM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: AlienBorg

I've presented actual numbers. All you've presented is your love for Elon. He's not gonna sleep with you.


You've presented what the woke crowds thinks about twitter and heavily biased online information. For your information, I don't have a twitter account.
It seems to me the takeover of twitter by Elon Musk created a series of problems for the radical left and the woke.



posted on Jul, 13 2023 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: tanstaafl

The site's user base is down.

Musk way over-paid due to the massive number of bots that were there, and when he killed them - well, I guess he was unsuccessful, because they have apparently reappeared over on Threads.

Oh - and anyone who doesn't understand that Threads will gain a large percentage of Facebook users 'just because' is naive.

A far more important metric is usage... how much meaningful engagement is there from real people (not bots).

Until some major enforceable laws are passed to deal with the bot problem, no one can ever really know. Hell, Wlon couldn't find the answer until after he had consummated the deal, and it was way worse than even he thought.


Advertisers are jumping ship.

Some did... and some of those came back.

It is called fallout from a major shake-up, unsurprising and expected.


Elon's plan to make up for the lost advertising revenue is a laughable failure.

It's only been 9 months... anyone who knows anything about such a thing (major directional changes in a major company/platform like Twitter) will tell you it will take time.


Investors are pulling out money.

Really? Who?


And just today the company was sued for $500 million for failure to pay severance packages.

Anyone can sue anyone for anything, and billionaires are easy pickings.

I'm not a corporate lawyer, and don't know if there are ways to break agreements like these when a publicly traded company is bought and taken private. I'm also wondering if there is a difference between being laid off, and fired for cause, so there may be a defense in that area.


By every metric, Twitter is worse off from a business perspective since Elon took over.

Yes, having overpaid by double due to their fraudulently withholding the details of just how many bots were on twitter, Twitter has lost half its value.

Elon Musk should sue all of the former Twitter Executives personally for that fraud.



posted on Jul, 13 2023 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: tanstaafl
I only addressed my feelings towards Musk

No you weren't. you explicitly said that everyone else cared enough about what you thought about Musk that we could have 'hurt feelings' - which is laughable, and I merely pointed this out.


Just take a look at your own deranged, hateful rhetoric. Calling everyone Musk fired -- three quarters's of Twitter's staff -- retarded woke cultists,

If the shoe fits.


when in fact, a lot of those fired were programmers and other IT professionals who had nothing to do with monitoring speech on the site.

The fact is, you don't have a clue of the make-up of those who were fired.

The fact is, programmers are absolutely required to code the censorship tools used by the retarded woke cultists to do the censoring.


Musk even attempted to hire some of these people back, but was less than successful.

He offered to give them a chance to come back if they could prove their worth, and that they weren't retarded woke cultists.
edit on 13-7-2023 by tanstaafl because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2023 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: AlienBorg

Twitter’s value down two-thirds since Musk takeover, says investor

Because Musk canceled all of the bots...


Threads becomes fastest growing app in history, hitting 100 million users in five days

Because all of the bots Musk canceled migrated to Threads... along with a whole bunch of Facebook users who were automatically signed up (many likely without their knowledge)...
edit on 14-7-2023 by tanstaafl because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2023 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: AlienBorg
By misinformation I mean false claims about various medications and chemicals having a medical benefit for some disease or another.

Yeah, I know, the MSM did nothing but Parrot the lies and malinformation being disseminated by Fraudci and company for years, in fact they are still doing so. Annoying ain't it?


I also mean false claims about voting election fraud that have been dismissed by courts of law.

Yes, I know, the false claims that there was no fraud just because certain courts refused to even look at any of the massive volumes of evidence are annoying, aren't they?


By hate speech I mean speech which engenders animosity against various minority groups, and even encourages violence against them.

Yes, I know, the democrats and radical woke leftists in Congress and the MSM just can't seem to help themselves, can t hey?

Yes, its all extremely annoying, ain't it?



posted on Jul, 14 2023 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: AlienBorg

So even Elon's own internal memo isn't enough to convince you that Twitter has lost value since he's taken the helm?

It didn't lose value, it simply had to be revalued once all of the bots were eliminated.
edit on 14-7-2023 by tanstaafl because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2023 @ 06:54 PM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: AlienBorg

Once again, even if he overpaid at $44 billion, it was still valued at around $30 billion shortly before the purchase went through. It's now valued at half that

Again - because the massive number of bots was discovered, and Musk was transparent about it.

I'll say it again, he should sue each and every former Twitter executive that was responsible for hiding the true number of bots on the platform.


So, what's Elon's plan for turning the ship around?

So you haven't heard about X yet... good...

Carry on.
edit on 14-7-2023 by tanstaafl because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2023 @ 06:57 PM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: AlienBorg

I've presented actual numbers. All you've presented is your love for Elon. He's not gonna sleep with you.

No, you've presented imaginary numbers from ridiculous plagiarizers regurgitating nonsensical made up crap to satisfy their wokeness.



posted on Jul, 14 2023 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: AlienBorg

That's just it though. Investors are pulling out their money.

You keep saying that, but where is your evidence?



posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 12:09 AM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: AlienBorg
By misinformation I mean false claims about various medications and chemicals having a medical benefit for some disease or another.

Yeah, I know, the MSM did nothing but Parrot the lies and malinformation being disseminated by Fraudci and company for years, in fact they are still doing so. Annoying ain't it?


I also mean false claims about voting election fraud that have been dismissed by courts of law.

Yes, I know, the false claims that there was no fraud just because certain courts refused to even look at any of the massive volumes of evidence are annoying, aren't they?


By hate speech I mean speech which engenders animosity against various minority groups, and even encourages violence against them.

Yes, I know, the democrats and radical woke leftists in Congress and the MSM just can't seem to help themselves, can t hey?

Yes, its all extremely annoying, ain't it?


Says you that most everything Fauci said was wrong. As for Ivermectin:


Proposed Mechanism of Action and Rationale for Use in Patients With COVID-19
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.3 However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.


Ivermectin - NIH

As for hydroxychloroquine:


FDA just gave a thumbs down to Trump's favorite COVID-19 drugs
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today revoked its emergency use authorization (EUA) for hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) to treat COVID-19. The two antimalaria drugs, touted by President Donald Trump and others as potential game-changers in tackling the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19, have failed in recent randomized controlled clinical trials to prevent disease in newly infected people or treat those with symptoms. In April, former FDA leaders decried the agency's decision to authorize emergency use of the drugs, asserting it was based on political pressure, not scientific evidence.

"I'm glad to see FDA remediate an action that was a significant departure from its science-based approach. I hope this is a step forward to FDA regaining its independence and for making decisions that are based on science and the public interest," says Luciana Borio, a former FDA acting chief scientist who directed medical and biodefense preparedness for Trump's National Security Council.


FDA just gave a thumbs down to Trump's favorite COVID-19 drugs

Just because certain courts dismissed the election fraud claims? How about losing 62 of 63 cases, and SCOTUS dismissing all five cases before it? Certain courts? You mean state and federal, including SCOTUS. A lot of these cases were before Republican and even Trump-appointed judges.

As for hate speech, what do you think is leading to attacks like these?:


Anti-transgender sentiment is suspected to have played a role in the separate deaths of two people, an Oregon man and an Indiana woman, over the past two weeks.

The first incident played out at an apartment complex in Richmond, Indiana, on the afternoon of June 30. Police say that Tommy Wayne Earl, 67, told them he looked out the window of his fourth-floor apartment and spotted Michelle Dionne Peacock, a neighbor he disliked, sitting at a gazebo with another person.

Earl told investigators he’d “had enough” and went out to confront Peacock with a straight razor, allegedly slicing her throat in such a way that she bled out before she could be moved from the scene, according to a detective’s sworn affidavit that was obtained by HuffPost.

In talks with investigators, Earl referred to the victim as “a male acting like a woman,” the affidavit said.

But Peacock was a 59-year-old cisgender woman.

According to the detective’s sworn statement, Earl was unrepentant and stated multiple times that he would attack the neighbor again if he could. Bystanders had attempted to subdue him at the scene, and responding officers used a stun gun on Earl after he allegedly threatened to kill them too.

Just two days later, in Portland, Oregon, Colin Michael Smith was stabbed to death after a man allegedly came up to his group of friends at a bar and began spewing homophobic slurs.

Rahnique U. Jackson, 24, is accused of killing Smith after the 32-year-old defended a transgender friend in the group, according to Smith’s sister.


2 Killed Separately In Suspected Anti-Transgender Attacks

You like to claim all kinds of crap, but you can't back up any of it with news or science articles. That says it all.

So yes, harmful hate speech, misinformation and disinformation speech being spread on irresponsible social media sites such as Musk's Twitter.



posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: AlienBorg

Once again, even if he overpaid at $44 billion, it was still valued at around $30 billion shortly before the purchase went through. It's now valued at half that

Again - because the massive number of bots was discovered, and Musk was transparent about it.

I'll say it again, he should sue each and every former Twitter executive that was responsible for hiding the true number of bots on the platform.


So, what's Elon's plan for turning the ship around?

So you haven't heard about X yet... good...

Carry on.


So why did the clown pay $44 billion for it in the first place? How come he didn't do his due diligence researching its value before making a contractual offer for it. And to say it is all because of bots is a big f'n lie. It's because advertisers are fleeing it in droves on account of the sh#t show he has made of it, including allowing hate speech.


Elon Musk says Twitter is still losing cash because advertising has dropped by half.

In a reply to a tweet offering business advice, Musk tweeted Saturday, “We’re still negative cash flow, due to (about a) 50% drop in advertising revenue plus heavy debt load.”

Ever since he took over Twitter in a $44 billion deal last fall, Musk has tried to reassure advertisers who were concerned about the ouster of top executives, widespread layoffs and a different approach to content moderation. Some high-profile users who had been banned were allowed back on the site.


Elon Musk Says Twitter Is Losing Cash Because Advertising Is Down

I've already cited another article in a previous post in this thread, which says one private investor in Twitter has devaluated its holdings by 66% since Musk took over. Twitter is hemorrhaging capital, and this is in large part because of Musk's management of it. And this is before all the lawsuits that are coming against it by former employees and landlords. Musk, in a leaked memo, has said that Twitter is now only worth about $20 billion.



posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 12:31 AM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: AlienBorg

I've presented actual numbers. All you've presented is your love for Elon. He's not gonna sleep with you.

No, you've presented imaginary numbers from ridiculous plagiarizers regurgitating nonsensical made up crap to satisfy their wokeness.


Says the person who provides no evidence whatsoever to back up their claims.

And newsflash: anyone who continually uses "woke" and "wokeness" to justify their reasoning has got absolutely nothing to back up their argument. But let's assume there is a politically correct societal effect, in which a large proportion of users and at least half of the advertisers are in fact put off by allowing hate speech and misinformation -- you can call it "wokeness" if you like". Then their opinions ought to matter to a company that wishes to cater to them. That's how the free market works -- just like with the transphobic Bud Light boycott. A company can't scare off or put off half of its customer and advertising bases, and expect to do well; that's not how the free market works.

Also, for someone who doesn't cite or present any evidence whatsoever, you do a WHOLE LOT of dismissing of inconvenient facts presented to you.



posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 03:53 AM
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originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: AlienBorg
By misinformation I mean false claims about various medications and chemicals having a medical benefit for some disease or another.

Yeah, I know, the MSM did nothing but Parrot the lies and malinformation being disseminated by Fraudci and company for years, in fact they are still doing so. Annoying ain't it?


I also mean false claims about voting election fraud that have been dismissed by courts of law.

Yes, I know, the false claims that there was no fraud just because certain courts refused to even look at any of the massive volumes of evidence are annoying, aren't they?


By hate speech I mean speech which engenders animosity against various minority groups, and even encourages violence against them.

Yes, I know, the democrats and radical woke leftists in Congress and the MSM just can't seem to help themselves, can t hey?

Yes, its all extremely annoying, ain't it?


Says you that most everything Fauci said was wrong. As for Ivermectin:


Proposed Mechanism of Action and Rationale for Use in Patients With COVID-19
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.3 However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.


Ivermectin - NIH

As for hydroxychloroquine:


FDA just gave a thumbs down to Trump's favorite COVID-19 drugs
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today revoked its emergency use authorization (EUA) for hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) to treat COVID-19. The two antimalaria drugs, touted by President Donald Trump and others as potential game-changers in tackling the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19, have failed in recent randomized controlled clinical trials to prevent disease in newly infected people or treat those with symptoms. In April, former FDA leaders decried the agency's decision to authorize emergency use of the drugs, asserting it was based on political pressure, not scientific evidence.

"I'm glad to see FDA remediate an action that was a significant departure from its science-based approach. I hope this is a step forward to FDA regaining its independence and for making decisions that are based on science and the public interest," says Luciana Borio, a former FDA acting chief scientist who directed medical and biodefense preparedness for Trump's National Security Council.


FDA just gave a thumbs down to Trump's favorite COVID-19 drugs

Just because certain courts dismissed the election fraud claims? How about losing 62 of 63 cases, and SCOTUS dismissing all five cases before it? Certain courts? You mean state and federal, including SCOTUS. A lot of these cases were before Republican and even Trump-appointed judges.

As for hate speech, what do you think is leading to attacks like these?:


Anti-transgender sentiment is suspected to have played a role in the separate deaths of two people, an Oregon man and an Indiana woman, over the past two weeks.

The first incident played out at an apartment complex in Richmond, Indiana, on the afternoon of June 30. Police say that Tommy Wayne Earl, 67, told them he looked out the window of his fourth-floor apartment and spotted Michelle Dionne Peacock, a neighbor he disliked, sitting at a gazebo with another person.

Earl told investigators he’d “had enough” and went out to confront Peacock with a straight razor, allegedly slicing her throat in such a way that she bled out before she could be moved from the scene, according to a detective’s sworn affidavit that was obtained by HuffPost.

In talks with investigators, Earl referred to the victim as “a male acting like a woman,” the affidavit said.

But Peacock was a 59-year-old cisgender woman.

According to the detective’s sworn statement, Earl was unrepentant and stated multiple times that he would attack the neighbor again if he could. Bystanders had attempted to subdue him at the scene, and responding officers used a stun gun on Earl after he allegedly threatened to kill them too.

Just two days later, in Portland, Oregon, Colin Michael Smith was stabbed to death after a man allegedly came up to his group of friends at a bar and began spewing homophobic slurs.

Rahnique U. Jackson, 24, is accused of killing Smith after the 32-year-old defended a transgender friend in the group, according to Smith’s sister.


2 Killed Separately In Suspected Anti-Transgender Attacks

You like to claim all kinds of crap, but you can't back up any of it with news or science articles. That says it all.

So yes, harmful hate speech, misinformation and disinformation speech being spread on irresponsible social media sites such as Musk's Twitter.


You ve been using the 'hate speech' card quite a lot when you're referring to twitter. But stating facts or criticising certain things is far from hate speech.

Your text


So yes, harmful hate speech, misinformation and disinformation speech being spread on irresponsible social media sites such as Musk's Twitter.


is emotionally and ideologically motivated. Twitter is the most reasonable platform and detached themselves from all the woke madness.

edit on 16-7-2023 by AlienBorg because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

Oh come off it. Twatter is being driven into the ground at a great rate of knots by Musk. It's hilarious, the man has no idea how Twatter works and is driving people away from it. Get out the popcorn and beer and watch the ongoing disaster.



posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 06:34 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: AlienBorg
By misinformation I mean false claims about various medications and chemicals having a medical benefit for some disease or another.

Yeah, I know, the MSM did nothing but Parrot the lies and malinformation being disseminated by Fraudci and company for years, in fact they are still doing so. Annoying ain't it?


I also mean false claims about voting election fraud that have been dismissed by courts of law.

Yes, I know, the false claims that there was no fraud just because certain courts refused to even look at any of the massive volumes of evidence are annoying, aren't they?


By hate speech I mean speech which engenders animosity against various minority groups, and even encourages violence against them.

Yes, I know, the democrats and radical woke leftists in Congress and the MSM just can't seem to help themselves, can t hey?

Yes, its all extremely annoying, ain't it?


Says you that most everything Fauci said was wrong. As for Ivermectin:


Proposed Mechanism of Action and Rationale for Use in Patients With COVID-19
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.3 However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.


Ivermectin - NIH

As for hydroxychloroquine:


FDA just gave a thumbs down to Trump's favorite COVID-19 drugs
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today revoked its emergency use authorization (EUA) for hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) to treat COVID-19. The two antimalaria drugs, touted by President Donald Trump and others as potential game-changers in tackling the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19, have failed in recent randomized controlled clinical trials to prevent disease in newly infected people or treat those with symptoms. In April, former FDA leaders decried the agency's decision to authorize emergency use of the drugs, asserting it was based on political pressure, not scientific evidence.

"I'm glad to see FDA remediate an action that was a significant departure from its science-based approach. I hope this is a step forward to FDA regaining its independence and for making decisions that are based on science and the public interest," says Luciana Borio, a former FDA acting chief scientist who directed medical and biodefense preparedness for Trump's National Security Council.


FDA just gave a thumbs down to Trump's favorite COVID-19 drugs

Just because certain courts dismissed the election fraud claims? How about losing 62 of 63 cases, and SCOTUS dismissing all five cases before it? Certain courts? You mean state and federal, including SCOTUS. A lot of these cases were before Republican and even Trump-appointed judges.

As for hate speech, what do you think is leading to attacks like these?:


Anti-transgender sentiment is suspected to have played a role in the separate deaths of two people, an Oregon man and an Indiana woman, over the past two weeks.

The first incident played out at an apartment complex in Richmond, Indiana, on the afternoon of June 30. Police say that Tommy Wayne Earl, 67, told them he looked out the window of his fourth-floor apartment and spotted Michelle Dionne Peacock, a neighbor he disliked, sitting at a gazebo with another person.

Earl told investigators he’d “had enough” and went out to confront Peacock with a straight razor, allegedly slicing her throat in such a way that she bled out before she could be moved from the scene, according to a detective’s sworn affidavit that was obtained by HuffPost.

In talks with investigators, Earl referred to the victim as “a male acting like a woman,” the affidavit said.

But Peacock was a 59-year-old cisgender woman.

According to the detective’s sworn statement, Earl was unrepentant and stated multiple times that he would attack the neighbor again if he could. Bystanders had attempted to subdue him at the scene, and responding officers used a stun gun on Earl after he allegedly threatened to kill them too.

Just two days later, in Portland, Oregon, Colin Michael Smith was stabbed to death after a man allegedly came up to his group of friends at a bar and began spewing homophobic slurs.

Rahnique U. Jackson, 24, is accused of killing Smith after the 32-year-old defended a transgender friend in the group, according to Smith’s sister.


2 Killed Separately In Suspected Anti-Transgender Attacks

You like to claim all kinds of crap, but you can't back up any of it with news or science articles. That says it all.

So yes, harmful hate speech, misinformation and disinformation speech being spread on irresponsible social media sites such as Musk's Twitter.


You ve been using the 'hate speech' card quite a lot when you're referring to twitter. But stating facts or criticising certain things is far from hate speech.

Your text


So yes, harmful hate speech, misinformation and disinformation speech being spread on irresponsible social media sites such as Musk's Twitter.


is emotionally and ideologically motivated. Twitter is the most reasonable platform and detached themselves from all the woke madness.


Who's the emotionally and ideologically motivated one in our discussion? I brought up murders by transphobes, whose hatred of trans people is much more than likely caused by what they find on social media, and now that includes Twitter as well. I also provided evidence of misinformation regarding Covid by the anti-Fauci crowd. To be clear, I have problems with some of Fauci's past rhetoric as well, but not regarding these quack cures presented by randos online and a mendacious president trying to keep the country in denial.

As for misinformation in general, I submit all the lies about the 2020 election, which have not held up in any courts. And if you're going to claim that your opinion on this subject matters more than over 60 court cases, then all I got to say is enjoy your house boat on Denial River.

I provide you evidence, and all you got in return is "nuh, uh. woke, wokeness" rinse and repeat. WEAK!



posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 06:45 AM
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originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: AlienBorg
By misinformation I mean false claims about various medications and chemicals having a medical benefit for some disease or another.

Yeah, I know, the MSM did nothing but Parrot the lies and malinformation being disseminated by Fraudci and company for years, in fact they are still doing so. Annoying ain't it?


I also mean false claims about voting election fraud that have been dismissed by courts of law.

Yes, I know, the false claims that there was no fraud just because certain courts refused to even look at any of the massive volumes of evidence are annoying, aren't they?


By hate speech I mean speech which engenders animosity against various minority groups, and even encourages violence against them.

Yes, I know, the democrats and radical woke leftists in Congress and the MSM just can't seem to help themselves, can t hey?

Yes, its all extremely annoying, ain't it?


Says you that most everything Fauci said was wrong. As for Ivermectin:


Proposed Mechanism of Action and Rationale for Use in Patients With COVID-19
Ivermectin has been shown to inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures.3 However, pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic studies suggest that achieving the plasma concentrations necessary for the antiviral efficacy detected in vitro would require administration of doses up to 100-fold higher than those approved for use in humans.


Ivermectin - NIH

As for hydroxychloroquine:


FDA just gave a thumbs down to Trump's favorite COVID-19 drugs
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today revoked its emergency use authorization (EUA) for hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) to treat COVID-19. The two antimalaria drugs, touted by President Donald Trump and others as potential game-changers in tackling the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19, have failed in recent randomized controlled clinical trials to prevent disease in newly infected people or treat those with symptoms. In April, former FDA leaders decried the agency's decision to authorize emergency use of the drugs, asserting it was based on political pressure, not scientific evidence.

"I'm glad to see FDA remediate an action that was a significant departure from its science-based approach. I hope this is a step forward to FDA regaining its independence and for making decisions that are based on science and the public interest," says Luciana Borio, a former FDA acting chief scientist who directed medical and biodefense preparedness for Trump's National Security Council.


FDA just gave a thumbs down to Trump's favorite COVID-19 drugs

Just because certain courts dismissed the election fraud claims? How about losing 62 of 63 cases, and SCOTUS dismissing all five cases before it? Certain courts? You mean state and federal, including SCOTUS. A lot of these cases were before Republican and even Trump-appointed judges.

As for hate speech, what do you think is leading to attacks like these?:


Anti-transgender sentiment is suspected to have played a role in the separate deaths of two people, an Oregon man and an Indiana woman, over the past two weeks.

The first incident played out at an apartment complex in Richmond, Indiana, on the afternoon of June 30. Police say that Tommy Wayne Earl, 67, told them he looked out the window of his fourth-floor apartment and spotted Michelle Dionne Peacock, a neighbor he disliked, sitting at a gazebo with another person.

Earl told investigators he’d “had enough” and went out to confront Peacock with a straight razor, allegedly slicing her throat in such a way that she bled out before she could be moved from the scene, according to a detective’s sworn affidavit that was obtained by HuffPost.

In talks with investigators, Earl referred to the victim as “a male acting like a woman,” the affidavit said.

But Peacock was a 59-year-old cisgender woman.

According to the detective’s sworn statement, Earl was unrepentant and stated multiple times that he would attack the neighbor again if he could. Bystanders had attempted to subdue him at the scene, and responding officers used a stun gun on Earl after he allegedly threatened to kill them too.

Just two days later, in Portland, Oregon, Colin Michael Smith was stabbed to death after a man allegedly came up to his group of friends at a bar and began spewing homophobic slurs.

Rahnique U. Jackson, 24, is accused of killing Smith after the 32-year-old defended a transgender friend in the group, according to Smith’s sister.


2 Killed Separately In Suspected Anti-Transgender Attacks

You like to claim all kinds of crap, but you can't back up any of it with news or science articles. That says it all.

So yes, harmful hate speech, misinformation and disinformation speech being spread on irresponsible social media sites such as Musk's Twitter.


You ve been using the 'hate speech' card quite a lot when you're referring to twitter. But stating facts or criticising certain things is far from hate speech.

Your text


So yes, harmful hate speech, misinformation and disinformation speech being spread on irresponsible social media sites such as Musk's Twitter.


is emotionally and ideologically motivated. Twitter is the most reasonable platform and detached themselves from all the woke madness.


Who's the emotionally and ideologically motivated one in our discussion? I brought up murders by transphobes, whose hatred of trans people is much more than likely caused by what they find on social media, and now that includes Twitter as well. I also provided evidence of misinformation regarding Covid by the anti-Fauci crowd. To be clear, I have problems with some of Fauci's past rhetoric as well, but not regarding these quack cures presented by randos online and a mendacious president trying to keep the country in denial.

As for misinformation in general, I submit all the lies about the 2020 election, which have not held up in any courts. And if you're going to claim that your opinion on this subject matters more than over 60 court cases, then all I got to say is enjoy your house boat on Denial River.

I provide you evidence, and all you got in return is "nuh, uh. woke, wokeness" rinse and repeat. WEAK!


Fauci himself lied several times promoting false claims and misinformation. Are you one supporting him? Fauci lied in Congress about the origins of the virus and Wuhan research.

ou proved nothing of what you claimed. You just used some headlines claiming transphobes and bigots murdered some people. That's not any evidence. That's speculation.

You can do better than that.

Twitter can hold all views btw. It doesn't try to censor all the wrongdoings made during the Covid pandemic.
edit on 16-7-2023 by AlienBorg because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 06:48 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: AlienBorg

Oh come off it. Twatter is being driven into the ground at a great rate of knots by Musk. It's hilarious, the man has no idea how Twatter works and is driving people away from it. Get out the popcorn and beer and watch the ongoing disaster.


That's your opinion.
I know the woke crowd never liked the takeover by Elon Musk as their safe online space was no longer possible.
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posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 08:13 AM
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@AB, you wrote:



Fauci himself lied several times promoting false claims and misinformation. Are you one supporting him? Fauci lied in Congress about the origins of the virus and Wuhan research.

ou proved nothing of what you claimed. You just used some headlines claiming transphobes and bigots murdered some people. That's not any evidence. That's speculation.

You can do better than that.

Twitter can hold all views btw. It doesn't try to censor all the wrongdoings made during the Covid pandemic.


If you bothered to read what I wrote, I had problems with some of Fauci's rhetoric as well; however, dismissing the benefit of some of the quack cures was not something he said I disagreed with. And it isn't just about Fauci and what he said, as you and your facile-argument-making fellow travelers like to claim. It is about the prevalence of the medical information provided, based on sound research. Again, it doesn't seem to be the case that you even bother to look at the articles I cite. The ones on Covid involved reports from scientific organizations.

As for the article about the two recent killings by transphobes, did you even bother to read the article? An old man kills a female neighbor because he thinks the person is a transexual when in fact the person is biologically a woman, and the killer says he would do the same thing again. You claiming this is not a hate crime? If so, you're full of it. As to how this transphobia developed in this person, to the point he thought a biological woman was a trans woman, where the hell do you think it came from? If you are going to claim it came from anywhere else than social media or online and/or cable news sites, you're again full of it.

And your response to the evidence I have provided you is "you can do better"? Really? What a pathetic response from someone who has provided no evidence whatsoever to validate their claims. And remember this is just a side topic. Your created this thread because of a cock-up with Twitter, and it's been shown to you multiple times that Twitter is floundering and that it is your hero, Elon Musk's fault. Whether you like it or not, your idealized social media site is a money loser. Again, it's the invisible hand of the market at work. Evidently what you refer to as woke culture makes up more than half of the market. You're even ignoring Musk's own admittance to the fact that Twitter has lost at least $20 billion of its value from what he paid for it.

Also, you have entirely avoided addressing the matter of Musk's Twitter catering more to the censorship of political content in other countries than the previously publicly owned Twitter. The fact that you have nothing to same on the subject shows your intellectual dishonesty on the topic of Twitter and censorship.


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posted on Jul, 16 2023 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: AlienBorg

Oh come off it. Twatter is being driven into the ground at a great rate of knots by Musk. It's hilarious, the man has no idea how Twatter works and is driving people away from it. Get out the popcorn and beer and watch the ongoing disaster.


That's your opinion.
I know the woke crowd never liked the takeover by Elon Musk as their safe online space was no longer possible.


Yeah, and we know what your unsubstantiated opinion is: woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, etc.

That's all you have, and it's a pathetic argument when attempting to defend Twitter's present crisis. No doubt you'll reply once again to me with more "woke this, and wokeness that". That's all you ever have, even when your opponent's argument has little or nothing to do with this facet of the issue. And as I have already said, anyone basing one's argument entirely on wokeness clearly can't make an effective argument and can't articulate their reasoning.



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