Very strange-what's going on with twitter??

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: AlienBorg

Multiple people have explained what's going on to you

Rptflmao!!!

A few people have been spouting off with pure speculations with ZERO knowledge of what is causing the gliyches.

That is all.

If you have read through this thread, and checked some of the articles linked, you'd know that it was otherwise. It is fairly clear why this problem is going on. And it is no glitch; it's an intended short-term -- and possibly longer term -- solution to the problem of data scraping.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: tanstaafl
Who said anything about Musk righting all the code himself?

Dunno, certainly not me... I said 'Write', not 'right'.

He is the CEO who makes policy decisions, including massive layoffs of programmers and other IT people. It's purdee obvious that is what @DerBeobachter meant.

He fired all of the woke morons and useless farkers, and allowed some to reapply if they felt he had lumped them in with the wrong group...

Yes he makes policy decision, but he cannot enforce everything personally and unilaterally, he still has to deal with the people there, and root out the stragglers that escaped the initial purge.

Yes, I miswrote "right" for "write". BFD. If that is the best you can do to refute or ignore what I wrote, that doesn't say much for your argument. As for your claim that he can make policy but not enforce it, what the fig do CEO's do? They make policies and have their minions in management enforce them. Firing a large portion of the code writers and IT people had nothing to with policy. It was a short-sighted cost-cutting measure.

You Musk apologists are as bad as Trump apologists. You've got MDSS and TDSS in a really bad way.

ATS and LinkedIn is the only social media I have. Never needed anything else.

If anything important escapes either one of them, then it really was not that important anyway.

a reply to: MrInquisitive
You know what's anti-Semitic? Israel killing a bunch of innocent Semite people in Palestine while they continue to force them to endure conditions that are third world. What about open borders and refugees escaping war zones? You know that Jews are not the only Semites, right? It's convenient that everybody descended from Jewish Semites gain this status, but Semites born outside Israel proper don't. It's also funny none of the many Jewish people I know are able to escape criticism by merit of being Jewish, never seem to face any overt anti-Semitism, but all these far left influencers and media personalities do. It's almost like it has little to do with being Jewish and a lot to do with being loud mouth authoritarian left-wingers. You suppose the people calling Ben Shapiro a traitor or slurs are right wingers predominantly?

Yeah yeah, unprecedented. My post is unprecedented. It's a dumb and hysteria inducing use of the term to describe a phenomena that has had limited study over the past decade in an emergent niche of sociology. If anybody is familiar with 4 chan this use of the term unprecedented as it relates to rise in hate speech is laughable. That Twitter has a huge amount of information posted daily doesn't change the fact that 10 years ago you could find dozens of forums that blasted things as a fair part of their content that would now be deemed worthy of one losing their career and business and bank accounts. The rise in use of these platforms has far outstripped the rise in hate speech and the Internet is more homogenous and censored than ever before.

To deny this is to out yourself as delusion or ignorant.

I don't need examples. Considering there are millions of posts a day that's a negligible increase relative to the whole and "double" of a small fraction of a percent is still a fraction of a percent. It also is highly susceptible to study bias. I see it's still there and it is ubiquitous across social media. Maybe because I block people that promote hateful content rather than looking for them so that I can clutch my pearls, its existence does not concern me if there is something in place to control it and somebody that cares doing it. Twitter is not a hate site, but has and will always have a bi-partisan hate problem like all others.

All the hate speech alarmism leaves out the racial crap about the globalist's favorite punching bags, white people and religious people. Women are now open season too. It has become socially accepted in alt-left circles to wish or even threaten rape of a woman so long as you call her a TERF first. Every bit as disgusting as using racial slurs, which is also faaaaar from exclusive to the right wing. One need only dare disagree with DNC dogma and the alt-left will turn on the taps of racist, sexist, and highly insensitive comments. The endemic blindness of partisans is not limited to the people you disagree with and the hate you ignore is endorsed in universities and proliferates on the social media you seem to have no problem with.

So, I know plenty about hate speech and I'm indifferent to the tribe that's doing the hate. Hate is not just what happens to the pet subgroups you choose to focus on, but hate is an aberration of communication between all humans. I don't need you to educate me as I've been plenty educated on it for years. The semantic differences that you seem to care about because of your political beliefs are irrelevant to me, and without regard for petty political beliefs, I have given it plenty of thought. You only care because "Elon bad" is now a media mantra and you probably said nary a word when child predators were free to use Twitter as a semi-open market for illegal material.

It's not about stopping hate speech, but highlighting hate speech that benefits your side to amplify. Forever the victim pleas echo from hollow claims of virtue. Never will you see the hate against LGBT people that come out against some radical agenda brought up, their ejection from their politically assigned identity group totally fine because of politics. It's hush hush hate speech. We don't talk about that.

It's doesn't surpise me you have no comment on the child exploitation, the government colluding to violate the Constitution, or the election interference from intelligence agencies tied into it. Instead you link alarmist qualitative analysis disguised as statistics through manufactured parameters for what meets the standard. I know you're probably claiming you're totally not a big fan of Biden because you're super objective, but you'll defend him violating the 1st and ignore that federal agencies interfered in the election.

Legal speech you don't like is the real problem,. Such a problem that you have to go look for it because it's such a small fraction of the material, unless you teach your feed to display it. Maybe it's saying something about people that see constant hate in their feeds.

"Progressive" and "liberal" ideology has become such a mockery of itself it now seems to require one have the psychological equivalent of a Rube Goldberg machine to excuse the hypocrisy of identity politics, double standards of justice, and total hysteria over trivial things while disgusting criminal enterprise happens in the open.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: boozo
They're forcing everyone to have an account.

I just tried accessing the home page of a bookmarked Twitter account, and couldn't get in because I'm not a Twitter subscriber.

Twitter is now following what TruthSocial.com did 3 weeks ago. That platform stopped generating links that allowed non-TruthSocial.com subscribers to view content inside the platform.

Entrepreneurs who want to generate maximum revenue, want as many REAL subscribers as possible. AboveTopSecret.com might be next to go that route.

Bigfootforums.com did that awhile back too, they only let you access the "main board" if you're a nonmember now and all the other forums are closed off if ur not registered. Basically makes you join if you wanna read more then just the main board.

Like you said it only makes sense to site owners to have the most registered, active members. There is another board I check out once In a blue moon and there will be like 20 members active but like 300 guests that are viewing the board as well. I dont know if you can see how many and who is "online" on ATS and how many guests are viewing but I bet it's something crazy like that to on ATS here.

I think when you are non member here you can't read the "real above top secret" forum here but everything else

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: tanstaafl
If you have read through this thread, and checked some of the articles linked, you'd know that it was otherwise. It is fairly clear why this problem is going on. And it is no glitch; it's an intended short-term -- and possibly longer term -- solution to the problem of data scraping.

Yes... once Elon actually chimed in and provided that answer.

Not everyone else was going on and on about how it was just proof of 'evil Elon'...

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: tanstaafl
Yes, I miswrote "right" for "write". BFD.

It changes the entire meaning of your comment.

Words matter - unless you're a radical leftist cry-baby who wants what they want when they want it, truth and facts be damned.

If that is the best you can do to refute or ignore what I wrote,

There was nothing to refute.

As for your claim that he can make policy but not enforce it, what the fig do CEO's do? They make policies and have their minions in management enforce them.

Correct. I said they don't do it 'personally and unilaterally'. LEarn to read.

Firing a large portion of the code writers and IT people had nothing to with policy. It was a short-sighted cost-cutting measure.

He didn't fire 'a large portion of the code writers and IT people', he fired the useless woke morons, some of who may have been code writers and/or IT people, but all of whom were woke morons who were bad for the direction he wanted/wants to take the company.

originally posted by: AlienBorg
I've just noticed you can't access twitter pages if you don't login to your account. Until now you could access any public page even if you didn't have an account.

You don't need an account to access twitter pages unless it's private tweets that are only visible to those who follow these accounts.

All attempts I have made direct me to this page

twitter.com...

Anyone knows what is going on?

Peeps have been rate limited to allow only a certain amount of views.. This is being done to limit deepstate bot attacks.. Maybe thats why u need to log in now to view post.. without this the bots can data mine all the time. 5th gen warfare at its finest..

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: MrInquisitive

Yeah, somebody says hate speech is on the rise. No proof, but Musk bad because media says so. Done more for the green industry agenda than virtually anybody alive, but also not a ball washer for the DNC and WEF all the time. It's a shame the left has turned into the tyrants they were supposed to protect the citizens from.

You know what's down at Twitter?

Collusion with the government to violate the first amendment and the disgusting child abuse material that proliferated while truthful post were censored for the government/pharma agenda.

You'll just have to live with all the tech sector except for Twitter, though I'll enjoy the bellyaching and "Twitter is finished". Meanwhile, the site is removing all the exploitation, both NGOs and their pet government agencies. The disgusting predators are no longer free to run their hashtags while the thousands of Twitter staff censored their political adversaries.

What do you think about the fact that Musk helped expose the US Government and its agencies operating a clandestine censorship operation colluding with politically connected tech insiders, including former intelligence agents, to violate the first amendment?

Here's some proof of a rise on Twitter -- all you got to do is google the term.

Before Elon Musk bought Twitter, slurs against Black Americans showed up on the social media service an average of 1,282 times a day. After the billionaire became Twitter’s owner, they jumped to 3,876 times a day.

Slurs against gay men appeared on Twitter 2,506 times a day on average before Mr. Musk took over. Afterward, their use rose to 3,964 times a day.

And antisemitic posts referring to Jews or Judaism soared more than 61 percent in the two weeks after Mr. Musk acquired the site.

These findings — from the Center for Countering Digital Hate, the Anti-Defamation League and other groups that study online platforms — provide the most comprehensive picture to date of how conversations on Twitter have changed since Mr. Musk completed his $44 billion deal for the company in late October. While the numbers are relatively small, researchers said the increases were atypically high.

The shift in speech is just the tip of a set of changes on the service under Mr. Musk. Accounts that Twitter used to regularly remove — such as those that identify as part of the Islamic State, which were banned after the U.S. government classified ISIS as a terror group — have come roaring back. Accounts associated with QAnon, a vast far-right conspiracy theory, have paid for and received verified status on Twitter, giving them a sheen of legitimacy.

These changes are alarming, researchers said, adding that they had never seen such a sharp increase in hate speech, problematic content and formerly banned accounts in such a short period on a mainstream social media platform.

“Elon Musk sent up the Bat Signal to every kind of racist, misogynist and homophobe that Twitter was open for business,” said Imran Ahmed, the chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate. “They have reacted accordingly.”

Hate Speech’s Rise on Twitter Is Unprecedented, Researchers Find

For the record, a company cooperating with the government to moderate or censor hate speech and misinformation is not a free speech violation, any more than the terms and conditions of use at ATS are. Twitter and ATS are private organizations, and so don't fall under protected speech of the 1st amendment.

You're wrong about your last conclusion.
Private organizations do fall under protected speech of the 1st Amendment. All you have to do is try to contest this in the Supreme Court.

How about show me one case where this has happened successfully? Oh yeah, you can't because there aren't any. Do you always just pull stuff out of thin air and claim it's true?

The First Amendment of the US Constitution limits the government—not private entities—from restricting free expression. This is why companies like Facebook and Twitter can moderate content—and also why they could suspend then-President Trump’s accounts during his last weeks in office.

Is There a First Amendment Right to Tweet?

In a way, however, you are correct, but not in the way you want it to be. Companies do fall under freedom of speech or protected speech, as per the 1st Amendment. But it is the speech of the company that is protected, not persons using the company's service. Hence social media companies can allow and disallow users to say whatever the company deems fit. If it were otherwise, don't you think people who have been censored or banned from social media sites -- such Donald Trump, for example -- would have already litigated this?

Also, federal court cases don't start at the SCOTUS level. They're first tried at the federal court level, and then the appellate court level, and then at the SCOTUS level, should SCOTUS accept the case.

You're still wrong. Try to take the cases in the Supreme Court and seem what happens. The speech of the individual vs the speech of the company. Are you sure one trumps the other?

I'm still wrong even though I backed up my contention with facts, and asked why there have been no successful court cases against social media companies in this respect, huh? You claim "woke" culture is a cult, but your denying of the facts in this matter shows who has the real cult mindset.

You don't seem to get it. A user on Twitter isn't guaranteed free speech. The company is the final arbiter of speech on its platform. The government can't force the company to censor or not censor a person. I've provided you evidence of this, and told you to provide evidence of any court case deciding otherwise. All you have in response is to say I am wrong, and ask if I am sure of this. WEAK.

That line serves those who want to push the line. Who said private companies don't have to abide by the laws and the Constitution. When you challenge them in court you will then see whether freedom of speech can also be guaranteed in a social media platform. It takes time, effort, money. That's the main problem.

Fund some of the cases and you will get miracles.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
Looks like Zuckerberg and Meta are about to open up their own competitor to Twitter, Threads.

Meta To Launch Twitter Challenger App Threads

Reuters) -Meta Platforms plans to launch a Twitter-rivalling microblogging app called Threads, days after Twitter boss Elon Musk attracted criticism by announcing a temporary cap on how many posts users can read on the social media site.

Threads is expected to be released on Thursday and will allow users to retain followers from photo-sharing platform Instagram, and keep the same username, a listing on Apple’s App Store showed.

The rollout represents a direct challenge to Twitter, which has faced numerous controversies since Musk bought the company for $44 billion in 2022.

Last week, the Tesla billionaire announced a slate of new restrictions on the app, limiting the number of tweets users could view per day, prompting outcry from many on the platform.

he launch of Threads represents a credible threat to Twitter under Musk, whose attempts to boost revenues and reshape the platform his own image have faced severe criticism.

After acquiring the company late last year, he laid off around 80% of staff and reinstated a number of banned accounts, such as those of former U.S. President Donald Trump and conservative satirical news site Babylon Bee.

Hundreds of advertisers, concerned by a perceived rise in harmful content on the platform, paused spending with Twitter, and internal documents seen by Reuters showed the platform’s most active users becoming disengaged.

Soon there are going to be several better-run alternatives to Twitter. There are already Blue Sky and Mastadon.

Good try.

But people want to use Twitter as it's much more free than the woke controlled platforms.

You do love your alt-right buzzwords, don't you? Never mind the bollocks, here's the facts:

Yesterday, Twitter rival Bluesky experienced its biggest spike in users yet. Between Wednesday and Thursday, Bluesky doubled its user base, Bloomberg reported.

In the past few months, several news organizations left the platform, many government accounts lost verification, and many apps broke when Twitter turned off its free API. This week, Mashable reported that Twitter made search unavailable without a login, further restricting access to tweets. Just yesterday, New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) became one of the first major transportation agencies to stop sharing live updates on Twitter. In MTA's press release, acting chief customer officer Shanifah Rieara said that MTA terminated those posting services because "reliability of the platform can no longer be guaranteed."

Top Twitter influencers flee to Bluesky amid Musk’s continued debasing

Since buying Twitter last year, Elon Musk has made a series of chaotic changes to the social media service that have alienated legions of users.

That’s been good news for Bluesky, an invite-only rival that has quickly gained a following since debuting in February. So far, its app has been downloaded 360,000 times from Apple’s app store worldwide, consumer data group data.ai told Fortune, and over a million more users are on the waitlist to join. Most of the new users have been added this month, according to Bloomberg.

Bluesky was created by Jack Dorsey, who happens to also be Twitter’s co-founder. In contrast to Twitter, he wanted to build a decentralized service, meaning its user data is stored in independent servers rather than in ones owned by one company—thereby giving users more autonomy in how they interact on the platform.

“We envision an open social media ecosystem where developers have more opportunity to build and innovate, and users have more choice and control over which services they use and their experience on social media as a whole,” Jay Graber, CEO of Bluesky, wrote in a blog post last year.

Dorsey has said that one of his regrets was commercializing Twitter. If he had a chance to do it over again, he’d make it more like an open source project.

“The biggest issue and my biggest regret is that it [Twitter] became a company,” Dorsey tweeted in August, responding to a question about whether the platform turned out like he wanted it to.

Bluesky is Jack Dorsey’s attempt at a Twitter redo and it’s already growing fast

Don't know how old you are, @AlienBorg, but there used to be this really popular social media site called MySpace. Guess what happened? A new, shinier site called FaceBook came along. So it will go with Twitter, particularly because of the way Musk is screwing the pooch with his $44 billion white elephant.

The majority of people aren't put off by what you call "woke" rules of the pre-Musk Twitter. What they want is a working platform they can depend on. They're not so into homophobia, white nationalism, right-wing extremism, far-out conspiracies and misinformation.

I believe twitter poses a huge problem on the woke brigade because they don't want free speech on the internet or let's say speech not subject to their outrageous demands. They want to enforce a type of compelled speech and Elon won't allow it. You seem to be really anxious and frustrated that things didn't go the way you want them to go on twitter.

You're right, the majority of people don't want a vast social media site to be a safe space for hate speech and misinformation. But you know what, people aren't insisting the government do anything about it; rather, they are deciding on their own to leave Twitter because of the problems with it and their issues with its policies. Isn't that just the free market at work? You and your fellow alt-righters want to stay on Musk's floundering white elephant and have a jolly ol' circle jerk? Have at it.

But in any case, you're going on about woke this and woke that have nothing to do with the subject of your own thread. That problem is Musk ruining Twitter by putting changing the technical aspects of it without thinking through the ramifications of doing so. This information scraping issue which has caused Twitter to change access to the site has nothing to do with supposed "woke" culture. It has to do with data mining my third parties. You're so hung up on your paranoia with woke culture that you evidently can't separate one issue from the other.

Hate speech and misinformation?!

Where did I hear this before?!

Hmmmm... Erm ....ah I found it! WOKE!!!!!!

The majority of people aren't put off by what you call "woke" rules of the pre-Musk Twitter. What they want is a working platform they can depend on. They're not so into homophobia, white nationalism, right-wing extremism, far-out conspiracies and misinformation.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

Have you tried gab.com?

I think the open and free speech on that site is incredible, if you are interested in free speech take a look. Some people say crazy things and like you I don't agree with it all but if you want to see people speaking freely gab.com is the place. I think they are benefitting from the hissy fit Musk and Zuckerberg are having. It's entertaining, informing and very offensive all at the same time. Give it a try, gab.com.

you won't find this on twitter or facebook

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Thx for the suggestion; however, I don't use even Twiiter for anything more than going to links referenced by other articles I read or videos I am view.

As for the Musk Zuckerberg hissy fit, team Musk has escalated the scrum:

Twitter Threatens Legal Action Over Meta's Popular New Threads App

Twitter parent company X Corp. is threatening to sue Meta over its new Threads app as the platform began racking up millions of users upon its Wednesday debut.

A Silicon Valley legal firm representing X Corp. claimed in a letter first reported by Semafor that Meta had “engaged in systematic, willful and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property” by poaching its employees.

Musk kicked off his tenure as head of Twitter by slashing the company’s payroll by at least three-quarters, leaving thousands out of a job. Now, some of the former Twitter employees have apparently found work at Meta, according to the letter to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg that was dated Wednesday. Meta is the parent company to Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and several smaller tech platforms.

In a statement, however, Meta pushed back against the accusations, saying that there had been no impropriety.

“No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing,” company spokesperson Andy Stone said.

Internal company records obtained by Reuters in October showed that Twitter has been struggling to retain active users, who numbered over 200 million last July, according to The New York Times. (Under Musk, Twitter became a private company and no longer had to publicly divulge such information.)

Zuckerberg said Thursday — from his new app — that he wanted to see Threads “on a clear path to 1 billion” users and “only then think about monetization.”

Threads passed 30 million signups overnight, Zuckerberg said.

Hmm, Twitter had 200 million users a year ago, and Threads has already received 30 million signups over night. No doubt the Musk fanbois will say that a lot of these 30 million are bots, to which I'll ask: how many of those Twitter users are bots? Last time I checked, your boy Musk had been claiming a lot more of the accounts on Twitter are bots that previously acknowledged by Twitter's previous owners, which is one of the reasons Musk was trying to get Twitter to lower its selling price.

In any case, I would think it would be easy for Threads to get cross-over users from FaceBook, which has 2 billion daily users. Sure, some of those are likely bots too, but there are still a lot of active human accounts on there. Threads is going to bury Twitter, and Musk and his investors will only be able to get pennies on the dollar for it if they try to pull out.

Things are going so well for Twitter that it is now estimated to a third of what Musk paid for it. He's quite the businessman.

Twitter may be worth one-third what Musk paid for it last fall as Fidelity fund marks down value

Twitter may now be worth one-third of what Elon Musk paid for the social media platform just seven months ago.

The Fidelity Blue Chip Growth Fund has reduced the market value of its equity stake in Twitter for a third time, now putting it at $6.55 million. That’s down from the nearly $20 million the Fidelity fund valued its stake at in October.

Financial services provider Fidelity Investments is privately held, not public, but is required by the SEC to regularly disclose its holdings. Because Twitter is a private company now called X Holdings Corp., information about its finances can’t be verified.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

That's some rant. Not going to address all of it, or even most of it. I'm all with you on how the term "Semitic" has been misappropriated as only referring to Jews, and in no way am I a supporter of the state of Israel.

You say you are indifferent to the "tribe" that is doing hate, but you seem to think that the left is involved in all sorts of hate speech, which I would dispute, but you seem to be plenty bothered by them; hence, you're not indifferent.

Please back up your claim that in left circles it is now ok to threaten the rape of women, whether they're first called a TERF or not. I provided a link to a study that quantified hate speech. You're just pulling stuff out of your butt.

I really don't know what child exploitation you are talking about. Try being a little more specific if you want people to know what you're talking about.

The government "colluding" to violate the Constitution, I assume, means the government's previous interactions with social media companies to combat hate speech and misinformation. First off, unless the government is threatening actions against companies unless they cooperate, there is no violation of the constitution. You have evidence that the government has strong-armed social media companies? Then provide it. Otherwise you're just bloviating.

And what intelligence agencies involved in election interference? Russian? Seems that has been discussed plenty. US? Then please indicate exactly what interference you mean and site a news source for it, rather than making vague unsubstantiated claims.

You are right, however, I don't think much of Musk. I realize that hurts the feelings of Musk cultists like yourself. Last time I checked, I have the right to feel the way I want about him and his abysmal business practices when it comes to Twitter.

I don't disagree with you that some liberal SJW types are so extreme in their views, that they attack people who don't share every last one of their beliefs. But that is not what the complaint about increase of hate speech on Twitter since Musk's taking it over is about.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Thx for the suggestion; however, I don't use even Twiiter for anything more than going to links referenced by other articles I read or videos I am view.

As for the Musk Zuckerberg hissy fit, team Musk has escalated the scrum:

Twitter Threatens Legal Action Over Meta's Popular New Threads App

Twitter parent company X Corp. is threatening to sue Meta over its new Threads app as the platform began racking up millions of users upon its Wednesday debut.

A Silicon Valley legal firm representing X Corp. claimed in a letter first reported by Semafor that Meta had “engaged in systematic, willful and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property” by poaching its employees.

Musk kicked off his tenure as head of Twitter by slashing the company’s payroll by at least three-quarters, leaving thousands out of a job. Now, some of the former Twitter employees have apparently found work at Meta, according to the letter to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg that was dated Wednesday. Meta is the parent company to Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and several smaller tech platforms.

In a statement, however, Meta pushed back against the accusations, saying that there had been no impropriety.

“No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing,” company spokesperson Andy Stone said.

Internal company records obtained by Reuters in October showed that Twitter has been struggling to retain active users, who numbered over 200 million last July, according to The New York Times. (Under Musk, Twitter became a private company and no longer had to publicly divulge such information.)

Zuckerberg said Thursday — from his new app — that he wanted to see Threads “on a clear path to 1 billion” users and “only then think about monetization.”

Threads passed 30 million signups overnight, Zuckerberg said.

Hmm, Twitter had 200 million users a year ago, and Threads has already received 30 million signups over night. No doubt the Musk fanbois will say that a lot of these 30 million are bots, to which I'll ask: how many of those Twitter users are bots? Last time I checked, your boy Musk had been claiming a lot more of the accounts on Twitter are bots that previously acknowledged by Twitter's previous owners, which is one of the reasons Musk was trying to get Twitter to lower its selling price.

In any case, I would think it would be easy for Threads to get cross-over users from FaceBook, which has 2 billion daily users. Sure, some of those are likely bots too, but there are still a lot of active human accounts on there. Threads is going to bury Twitter, and Musk and his investors will only be able to get pennies on the dollar for it if they try to pull out.

Things are going so well for Twitter that it is now estimated to a third of what Musk paid for it. He's quite the businessman.

Twitter may be worth one-third what Musk paid for it last fall as Fidelity fund marks down value

Twitter may now be worth one-third of what Elon Musk paid for the social media platform just seven months ago.

The Fidelity Blue Chip Growth Fund has reduced the market value of its equity stake in Twitter for a third time, now putting it at $6.55 million. That’s down from the nearly $20 million the Fidelity fund valued its stake at in October.

Financial services provider Fidelity Investments is privately held, not public, but is required by the SEC to regularly disclose its holdings. Because Twitter is a private company now called X Holdings Corp., information about its finances can’t be verified.

You don't want to use Twitter. You want a safe space where the woke ideas van be pushed without challenge.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Thx for the suggestion; however, I don't use even Twiiter for anything more than going to links referenced by other articles I read or videos I am view.

As for the Musk Zuckerberg hissy fit, team Musk has escalated the scrum:

Twitter Threatens Legal Action Over Meta's Popular New Threads App

Twitter parent company X Corp. is threatening to sue Meta over its new Threads app as the platform began racking up millions of users upon its Wednesday debut.

A Silicon Valley legal firm representing X Corp. claimed in a letter first reported by Semafor that Meta had “engaged in systematic, willful and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property” by poaching its employees.

Musk kicked off his tenure as head of Twitter by slashing the company’s payroll by at least three-quarters, leaving thousands out of a job. Now, some of the former Twitter employees have apparently found work at Meta, according to the letter to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg that was dated Wednesday. Meta is the parent company to Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and several smaller tech platforms.

In a statement, however, Meta pushed back against the accusations, saying that there had been no impropriety.

“No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing,” company spokesperson Andy Stone said.

Internal company records obtained by Reuters in October showed that Twitter has been struggling to retain active users, who numbered over 200 million last July, according to The New York Times. (Under Musk, Twitter became a private company and no longer had to publicly divulge such information.)

Zuckerberg said Thursday — from his new app — that he wanted to see Threads “on a clear path to 1 billion” users and “only then think about monetization.”

Threads passed 30 million signups overnight, Zuckerberg said.

Hmm, Twitter had 200 million users a year ago, and Threads has already received 30 million signups over night. No doubt the Musk fanbois will say that a lot of these 30 million are bots, to which I'll ask: how many of those Twitter users are bots? Last time I checked, your boy Musk had been claiming a lot more of the accounts on Twitter are bots that previously acknowledged by Twitter's previous owners, which is one of the reasons Musk was trying to get Twitter to lower its selling price.

In any case, I would think it would be easy for Threads to get cross-over users from FaceBook, which has 2 billion daily users. Sure, some of those are likely bots too, but there are still a lot of active human accounts on there. Threads is going to bury Twitter, and Musk and his investors will only be able to get pennies on the dollar for it if they try to pull out.

Things are going so well for Twitter that it is now estimated to a third of what Musk paid for it. He's quite the businessman.

Twitter may be worth one-third what Musk paid for it last fall as Fidelity fund marks down value

Twitter may now be worth one-third of what Elon Musk paid for the social media platform just seven months ago.

The Fidelity Blue Chip Growth Fund has reduced the market value of its equity stake in Twitter for a third time, now putting it at $6.55 million. That’s down from the nearly $20 million the Fidelity fund valued its stake at in October.

Financial services provider Fidelity Investments is privately held, not public, but is required by the SEC to regularly disclose its holdings. Because Twitter is a private company now called X Holdings Corp., information about its finances can’t be verified.

You don't want to use Twitter. You want a safe space where the woke ideas van be pushed without challenge.

I'll use Twiiter as much as I need to, i.e. to look at pertinent links there pointed to by others, as I have already said. No, I don't surf Twitter.

Woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke! You and others sound parrots squawking the same word over and over. Can you even define the word?

I am against any online platform that allows blatant misinformation dissemination, incitement of violence, threatening others, and derogatory name calling aimed at the race, religion, ethnicity or gender of a person, group or country. I have no problem with people challenging the political views of others as long as they abide don't do the aforementioned things. So stop mischaracterizing what I want.

And to be clear, I don't want the government policing/censoring such sites, but I welcome advertisers leaving a site, such as Twitter that is allowing the types of bad speech I listed.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Thx for the suggestion; however, I don't use even Twiiter for anything more than going to links referenced by other articles I read or videos I am view.

As for the Musk Zuckerberg hissy fit, team Musk has escalated the scrum:

Twitter Threatens Legal Action Over Meta's Popular New Threads App

Twitter parent company X Corp. is threatening to sue Meta over its new Threads app as the platform began racking up millions of users upon its Wednesday debut.

A Silicon Valley legal firm representing X Corp. claimed in a letter first reported by Semafor that Meta had “engaged in systematic, willful and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property” by poaching its employees.

Musk kicked off his tenure as head of Twitter by slashing the company’s payroll by at least three-quarters, leaving thousands out of a job. Now, some of the former Twitter employees have apparently found work at Meta, according to the letter to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg that was dated Wednesday. Meta is the parent company to Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and several smaller tech platforms.

In a statement, however, Meta pushed back against the accusations, saying that there had been no impropriety.

“No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing,” company spokesperson Andy Stone said.

Internal company records obtained by Reuters in October showed that Twitter has been struggling to retain active users, who numbered over 200 million last July, according to The New York Times. (Under Musk, Twitter became a private company and no longer had to publicly divulge such information.)

Zuckerberg said Thursday — from his new app — that he wanted to see Threads “on a clear path to 1 billion” users and “only then think about monetization.”

Threads passed 30 million signups overnight, Zuckerberg said.

Hmm, Twitter had 200 million users a year ago, and Threads has already received 30 million signups over night. No doubt the Musk fanbois will say that a lot of these 30 million are bots, to which I'll ask: how many of those Twitter users are bots? Last time I checked, your boy Musk had been claiming a lot more of the accounts on Twitter are bots that previously acknowledged by Twitter's previous owners, which is one of the reasons Musk was trying to get Twitter to lower its selling price.

In any case, I would think it would be easy for Threads to get cross-over users from FaceBook, which has 2 billion daily users. Sure, some of those are likely bots too, but there are still a lot of active human accounts on there. Threads is going to bury Twitter, and Musk and his investors will only be able to get pennies on the dollar for it if they try to pull out.

Things are going so well for Twitter that it is now estimated to a third of what Musk paid for it. He's quite the businessman.

Twitter may be worth one-third what Musk paid for it last fall as Fidelity fund marks down value

Twitter may now be worth one-third of what Elon Musk paid for the social media platform just seven months ago.

The Fidelity Blue Chip Growth Fund has reduced the market value of its equity stake in Twitter for a third time, now putting it at $6.55 million. That’s down from the nearly $20 million the Fidelity fund valued its stake at in October.

Financial services provider Fidelity Investments is privately held, not public, but is required by the SEC to regularly disclose its holdings. Because Twitter is a private company now called X Holdings Corp., information about its finances can’t be verified.

You don't want to use Twitter. You want a safe space where the woke ideas van be pushed without challenge.

I'll use Twiiter as much as I need to, i.e. to look at pertinent links there pointed to by others, as I have already said. No, I don't surf Twitter.

Woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke! You and others sound parrots squawking the same word over and over. Can you even define the word?

I am against any online platform that allows blatant misinformation dissemination, incitement of violence, threatening others, and derogatory name calling aimed at the race, religion, ethnicity or gender of a person, group or country. I have no problem with people challenging the political views of others as long as they abide don't do the aforementioned things. So stop mischaracterizing what I want.

And to be clear, I don't want the government policing/censoring such sites, but I welcome advertisers leaving a site, such as Twitter that is allowing the types of bad speech I listed.

You're not convincing at all.

Your idea of lies and misinformation points to the woke brigade that wants to impose it's will and silence everyone in the name of their absolute truth.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Thx for the suggestion; however, I don't use even Twiiter for anything more than going to links referenced by other articles I read or videos I am view.

As for the Musk Zuckerberg hissy fit, team Musk has escalated the scrum:

Twitter Threatens Legal Action Over Meta's Popular New Threads App

Twitter parent company X Corp. is threatening to sue Meta over its new Threads app as the platform began racking up millions of users upon its Wednesday debut.

A Silicon Valley legal firm representing X Corp. claimed in a letter first reported by Semafor that Meta had “engaged in systematic, willful and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property” by poaching its employees.

Musk kicked off his tenure as head of Twitter by slashing the company’s payroll by at least three-quarters, leaving thousands out of a job. Now, some of the former Twitter employees have apparently found work at Meta, according to the letter to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg that was dated Wednesday. Meta is the parent company to Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and several smaller tech platforms.

In a statement, however, Meta pushed back against the accusations, saying that there had been no impropriety.

“No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing,” company spokesperson Andy Stone said.

Internal company records obtained by Reuters in October showed that Twitter has been struggling to retain active users, who numbered over 200 million last July, according to The New York Times. (Under Musk, Twitter became a private company and no longer had to publicly divulge such information.)

Zuckerberg said Thursday — from his new app — that he wanted to see Threads “on a clear path to 1 billion” users and “only then think about monetization.”

Threads passed 30 million signups overnight, Zuckerberg said.

Hmm, Twitter had 200 million users a year ago, and Threads has already received 30 million signups over night. No doubt the Musk fanbois will say that a lot of these 30 million are bots, to which I'll ask: how many of those Twitter users are bots? Last time I checked, your boy Musk had been claiming a lot more of the accounts on Twitter are bots that previously acknowledged by Twitter's previous owners, which is one of the reasons Musk was trying to get Twitter to lower its selling price.

In any case, I would think it would be easy for Threads to get cross-over users from FaceBook, which has 2 billion daily users. Sure, some of those are likely bots too, but there are still a lot of active human accounts on there. Threads is going to bury Twitter, and Musk and his investors will only be able to get pennies on the dollar for it if they try to pull out.

Things are going so well for Twitter that it is now estimated to a third of what Musk paid for it. He's quite the businessman.

Twitter may be worth one-third what Musk paid for it last fall as Fidelity fund marks down value

Twitter may now be worth one-third of what Elon Musk paid for the social media platform just seven months ago.

The Fidelity Blue Chip Growth Fund has reduced the market value of its equity stake in Twitter for a third time, now putting it at $6.55 million. That’s down from the nearly $20 million the Fidelity fund valued its stake at in October.

Financial services provider Fidelity Investments is privately held, not public, but is required by the SEC to regularly disclose its holdings. Because Twitter is a private company now called X Holdings Corp., information about its finances can’t be verified.

You don't want to use Twitter. You want a safe space where the woke ideas van be pushed without challenge.

I'll use Twiiter as much as I need to, i.e. to look at pertinent links there pointed to by others, as I have already said. No, I don't surf Twitter.

Woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke! You and others sound parrots squawking the same word over and over. Can you even define the word?

I am against any online platform that allows blatant misinformation dissemination, incitement of violence, threatening others, and derogatory name calling aimed at the race, religion, ethnicity or gender of a person, group or country. I have no problem with people challenging the political views of others as long as they abide don't do the aforementioned things. So stop mischaracterizing what I want.

And to be clear, I don't want the government policing/censoring such sites, but I welcome advertisers leaving a site, such as Twitter that is allowing the types of bad speech I listed.

You're not convincing at all.

Your idea of lies and misinformation points to the woke brigade that wants to impose it's will and silence everyone in the name of their absolute truth.

And you're so convincing sputtering "woke" this, "woke" that, again and again. I've asked you to define "woke", but your avoiding doin so shows that you would have a problem doing so.

No, my idea of lies and misinformation doesn't point to the so-called "woke brigade". In any case, your definition of "woke" appears to be anything you disagree with.

Also notice that you haven't addressed the issues of Twitter's loss of value, and its own fear of Threads supplanting it.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Thx for the suggestion; however, I don't use even Twiiter for anything more than going to links referenced by other articles I read or videos I am view.

As for the Musk Zuckerberg hissy fit, team Musk has escalated the scrum:

Twitter Threatens Legal Action Over Meta's Popular New Threads App

Twitter parent company X Corp. is threatening to sue Meta over its new Threads app as the platform began racking up millions of users upon its Wednesday debut.

A Silicon Valley legal firm representing X Corp. claimed in a letter first reported by Semafor that Meta had “engaged in systematic, willful and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property” by poaching its employees.

Musk kicked off his tenure as head of Twitter by slashing the company’s payroll by at least three-quarters, leaving thousands out of a job. Now, some of the former Twitter employees have apparently found work at Meta, according to the letter to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg that was dated Wednesday. Meta is the parent company to Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and several smaller tech platforms.

In a statement, however, Meta pushed back against the accusations, saying that there had been no impropriety.

“No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing,” company spokesperson Andy Stone said.

Internal company records obtained by Reuters in October showed that Twitter has been struggling to retain active users, who numbered over 200 million last July, according to The New York Times. (Under Musk, Twitter became a private company and no longer had to publicly divulge such information.)

Zuckerberg said Thursday — from his new app — that he wanted to see Threads “on a clear path to 1 billion” users and “only then think about monetization.”

Threads passed 30 million signups overnight, Zuckerberg said.

Hmm, Twitter had 200 million users a year ago, and Threads has already received 30 million signups over night. No doubt the Musk fanbois will say that a lot of these 30 million are bots, to which I'll ask: how many of those Twitter users are bots? Last time I checked, your boy Musk had been claiming a lot more of the accounts on Twitter are bots that previously acknowledged by Twitter's previous owners, which is one of the reasons Musk was trying to get Twitter to lower its selling price.

In any case, I would think it would be easy for Threads to get cross-over users from FaceBook, which has 2 billion daily users. Sure, some of those are likely bots too, but there are still a lot of active human accounts on there. Threads is going to bury Twitter, and Musk and his investors will only be able to get pennies on the dollar for it if they try to pull out.

Things are going so well for Twitter that it is now estimated to a third of what Musk paid for it. He's quite the businessman.

Twitter may be worth one-third what Musk paid for it last fall as Fidelity fund marks down value

Twitter may now be worth one-third of what Elon Musk paid for the social media platform just seven months ago.

The Fidelity Blue Chip Growth Fund has reduced the market value of its equity stake in Twitter for a third time, now putting it at $6.55 million. That’s down from the nearly $20 million the Fidelity fund valued its stake at in October.

Financial services provider Fidelity Investments is privately held, not public, but is required by the SEC to regularly disclose its holdings. Because Twitter is a private company now called X Holdings Corp., information about its finances can’t be verified.

You don't want to use Twitter. You want a safe space where the woke ideas van be pushed without challenge.

I'll use Twiiter as much as I need to, i.e. to look at pertinent links there pointed to by others, as I have already said. No, I don't surf Twitter.

Woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke! You and others sound parrots squawking the same word over and over. Can you even define the word?

I am against any online platform that allows blatant misinformation dissemination, incitement of violence, threatening others, and derogatory name calling aimed at the race, religion, ethnicity or gender of a person, group or country. I have no problem with people challenging the political views of others as long as they abide don't do the aforementioned things. So stop mischaracterizing what I want.

And to be clear, I don't want the government policing/censoring such sites, but I welcome advertisers leaving a site, such as Twitter that is allowing the types of bad speech I listed.

You're not convincing at all.

Your idea of lies and misinformation points to the woke brigade that wants to impose it's will and silence everyone in the name of their absolute truth.

And you're so convincing sputtering "woke" this, "woke" that, again and again. I've asked you to define "woke", but your avoiding doin so shows that you would have a problem doing so.

No, my idea of lies and misinformation doesn't point to the so-called "woke brigade". In any case, your definition of "woke" appears to be anything you disagree with.

Also notice that you haven't addressed the issues of Twitter's loss of value, and its own fear of Threads supplanting it.

We're not having a debate on what is woke. Your ideas of lies and misinformation points precisely to the woke culture.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Thx for the suggestion; however, I don't use even Twiiter for anything more than going to links referenced by other articles I read or videos I am view.

As for the Musk Zuckerberg hissy fit, team Musk has escalated the scrum:

Twitter Threatens Legal Action Over Meta's Popular New Threads App

Twitter parent company X Corp. is threatening to sue Meta over its new Threads app as the platform began racking up millions of users upon its Wednesday debut.

A Silicon Valley legal firm representing X Corp. claimed in a letter first reported by Semafor that Meta had “engaged in systematic, willful and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property” by poaching its employees.

Musk kicked off his tenure as head of Twitter by slashing the company’s payroll by at least three-quarters, leaving thousands out of a job. Now, some of the former Twitter employees have apparently found work at Meta, according to the letter to Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg that was dated Wednesday. Meta is the parent company to Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and several smaller tech platforms.

In a statement, however, Meta pushed back against the accusations, saying that there had been no impropriety.

“No one on the Threads engineering team is a former Twitter employee — that’s just not a thing,” company spokesperson Andy Stone said.

Internal company records obtained by Reuters in October showed that Twitter has been struggling to retain active users, who numbered over 200 million last July, according to The New York Times. (Under Musk, Twitter became a private company and no longer had to publicly divulge such information.)

Zuckerberg said Thursday — from his new app — that he wanted to see Threads “on a clear path to 1 billion” users and “only then think about monetization.”

Threads passed 30 million signups overnight, Zuckerberg said.

Hmm, Twitter had 200 million users a year ago, and Threads has already received 30 million signups over night. No doubt the Musk fanbois will say that a lot of these 30 million are bots, to which I'll ask: how many of those Twitter users are bots? Last time I checked, your boy Musk had been claiming a lot more of the accounts on Twitter are bots that previously acknowledged by Twitter's previous owners, which is one of the reasons Musk was trying to get Twitter to lower its selling price.

In any case, I would think it would be easy for Threads to get cross-over users from FaceBook, which has 2 billion daily users. Sure, some of those are likely bots too, but there are still a lot of active human accounts on there. Threads is going to bury Twitter, and Musk and his investors will only be able to get pennies on the dollar for it if they try to pull out.

Things are going so well for Twitter that it is now estimated to a third of what Musk paid for it. He's quite the businessman.

Twitter may be worth one-third what Musk paid for it last fall as Fidelity fund marks down value

Twitter may now be worth one-third of what Elon Musk paid for the social media platform just seven months ago.

The Fidelity Blue Chip Growth Fund has reduced the market value of its equity stake in Twitter for a third time, now putting it at $6.55 million. That’s down from the nearly $20 million the Fidelity fund valued its stake at in October.

Financial services provider Fidelity Investments is privately held, not public, but is required by the SEC to regularly disclose its holdings. Because Twitter is a private company now called X Holdings Corp., information about its finances can’t be verified.

You don't want to use Twitter. You want a safe space where the woke ideas van be pushed without challenge.

I'll use Twiiter as much as I need to, i.e. to look at pertinent links there pointed to by others, as I have already said. No, I don't surf Twitter.

Woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke, woke! You and others sound parrots squawking the same word over and over. Can you even define the word?

I am against any online platform that allows blatant misinformation dissemination, incitement of violence, threatening others, and derogatory name calling aimed at the race, religion, ethnicity or gender of a person, group or country. I have no problem with people challenging the political views of others as long as they abide don't do the aforementioned things. So stop mischaracterizing what I want.

And to be clear, I don't want the government policing/censoring such sites, but I welcome advertisers leaving a site, such as Twitter that is allowing the types of bad speech I listed.

You're not convincing at all.

Your idea of lies and misinformation points to the woke brigade that wants to impose it's will and silence everyone in the name of their absolute truth.

And you're so convincing sputtering "woke" this, "woke" that, again and again. I've asked you to define "woke", but your avoiding doin so shows that you would have a problem doing so.

No, my idea of lies and misinformation doesn't point to the so-called "woke brigade". In any case, your definition of "woke" appears to be anything you disagree with.

Also notice that you haven't addressed the issues of Twitter's loss of value, and its own fear of Threads supplanting it.

We're not having a debate on what is woke. Your ideas of lies and misinformation points precisely to the woke culture.

You keep on using this stupid, tired phrase over and over again. At the very least you could define what you mean by it. Given that it's now getting mighty obvious you can't, it's a real loser of an argument to keep on using this term. Obviously by "woke" you mean anything you disagree with.

By misinformation I mean false claims about various medications and chemicals having a medical benefit for some disease or another. I also mean false claims about voting election fraud that have been dismissed by courts of law. By hate speech I mean speech which engenders animosity against various minority groups, and even encourages violence against them.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Always hated Twitter. If it disappears I won't shed a tear.