Very strange-what's going on with twitter??

implementing new measures before election season so they can limit reach of whatever they want

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: gortex

Jesus Chrikey, being allowed to read upto 6000 tweets sounds like a punishment worse than death, who in their right mind would want to read that much inane babble, perhaps this restriction could be seen as a service to humanity, i take it prior to that you could read unlimited tweets

Agree with your sentiment, but I don't think that's what it's about. If "data scraping" is going on, then that has to do with scripted bots viewing Twitter posts in normally massive numbers. I don't think any human will be put-off by being limited to 600 or even 6000 posts (I hope). It is, however, a big crimp in the style of persons without Twitter accounts that might go to a handful of tweets a day at most, pointed there by article and post links. Furthermore, I'd imagine that a lot of Twitter users depend on such viewership. I know I won't be bothering to click on any more Twitter links in the foreseeable future.

Seems like this is just one more reason people should leave Twitter and go to a better run site. It does make me wonder how many screw-ups Elon Musk has committed with Tesla and Space-X. He apparently is oblivious to the damage to Twitter that his cavalier actions are doing.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: gortex

Jesus Chrikey, being allowed to read upto 6000 tweets sounds like a punishment worse than death, who in their right mind would want to read that much inane babble, perhaps this restriction could be seen as a service to humanity, i take it prior to that you could read unlimited tweets

Agree with your sentiment, but I don't think that's what it's about. If "data scraping" is going on, then that has to do with scripted bots viewing Twitter posts in normally massive numbers. I don't think any human will be put-off by being limited to 600 or even 6000 posts (I hope). It is, however, a big crimp in the style of persons without Twitter accounts that might go to a handful of tweets a day at most, pointed there by article and post links. Furthermore, I'd imagine that a lot of Twitter users depend on such viewership. I know I won't be bothering to click on any more Twitter links in the foreseeable future.

Seems like this is just one more reason people should leave Twitter and go to a better run site. It does make me wonder how many screw-ups Elon Musk has committed with Tesla and Space-X. He apparently is oblivious to the damage to Twitter that his cavalier actions are doing.

Not fair criticism on Elon as he has made quite a lot of positive changes since he took over. He fired a number of people who were ideologically driven (woke employees) when others walk out on their own. He said no more of this woke ideology on twitter and a number of discussions became possible again. He reinstated a lot of accounts banned by the woke regime.

originally posted by: AlienBorg
He said no more of this woke ideology on twitter and a number of discussions became possible again.

only... the whole point of this thread is that discussion is NOT currently possible.
Soooo maybe not such a galaxy brained hero man after all, huh?

Although i guess TECHNICALLY since the site is unusable there is currently no WoKe IdEoLoGy happening so....
well done i guess?

Man shot himself in the foot to deprive THE LEFT of shoes, very cool.

originally posted by: continuousThunder

originally posted by: AlienBorg
He said no more of this woke ideology on twitter and a number of discussions became possible again.

only... the whole point of this thread is that discussion is NOT currently possible.
Soooo maybe not such a galaxy brained hero man after all, huh?

Although i guess TECHNICALLY since the site is unusable there is currently no WoKe IdEoLoGy happening so....
well done i guess?

Man shot himself in the foot to deprive THE LEFT of shoes, very cool.

Discussion is available.
The issue is with viewing tweets and twitter accounts when you don't have an account. That's what's going on.

a reply to: AlienBorg

The issue is also for those that don't pay for a blue check mark. They are limited as well. Many stated they are receiving a threshold limit reached after browsing for a few minutes. Blue check marks have a higher limit. Most willing to pay are Elon fans and the far right. So sure, a very limited discussion is available if you're speaking of discussion among all persuasions of people. Spoutible,Post,and Bluesky have seen a big upsurge in members since Saturday apparently.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: AlienBorg

The issue is also for those that don't pay for a blue check mark. They are limited as well. Many stated they are receiving a threshold limit reached after browsing for a few minutes. Blue check marks have a higher limit. Most willing to pay are Elon fans and the far right. So sure, a very limited discussion is available if you're speaking of discussion among all persuasions of people. Spoutible,Post,and Bluesky have seen a big upsurge in members since Saturday apparently.

I don't think you will be limited if you don't have a blue check mark. Until now you were able to browse anything you want and even if you don't have an account you were able to view tweets and other twitter accounts. The main issue is those who don't have an account and are no longer able to view anything.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Yes, unverified accounts which are non paying. Paid blue check mark are considered verified. He started at 600 then upped it a few times to settle at 1000 for unverified accounts. 10,000 for verified. However, if it is for clicking on the tweet, one knows, they are getting restricted messages they claim just from browsing their timeline. I'm not sure myself.

Link

a reply to: AlienBorg

there's also issues with replies simply not showing up in notifications, a funny phenom where you can be unable to view tweets [including your own] but you can still post [but not see what you've just posted], and the site essentially DDoSing itself.

But no, THIS guy doesn't have an account so the ONLY issue is not being able to view tweets when you don't have an account.

I love the mix of going to bat for Elon and not knowing what the heck you're talking about, i wonder if they could possibly be linked :O

originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: AlienBorg

there's also issues with replies simply not showing up in notifications, a funny phenom where you can be unable to view tweets [including your own] but you can still post [but not see what you've just posted], and the site essentially DDoSing itself.

But no, THIS guy doesn't have an account so the ONLY issue is not being able to view tweets when you don't have an account.

I love the mix of going to bat for Elon and not knowing what the heck you're talking about, i wonder if they could possibly be linked :O

You're describing some possible glitches.
The issue is for those who don't have an account and not being able to view tweets of accounts they follow. Something that was possible only a few days ago.

a reply to: AlienBorg

why ask a question if you're so utterly uninterested in answers?

Multiple people have explained what's going on to you, but instead of accepting that there's a wider thing going on that actual users of the site might understand, you're digging in your heels and going "no! the only problem is the one that has personally affected ME!" like you straight up acknowledge you don't have an account, why not listen to people who do? absolute catastrophic babymode over here

originally posted by: AlienBorg
I've just noticed you can't access twitter pages if you don't login to your account. Until now you could access any public page even if you didn't have an account.

You don't need an account to access twitter pages unless it's private tweets that are only visible to those who follow these accounts.

All attempts I have made direct me to this page

twitter.com...

Anyone knows what is going on?

Yes. Twitter was bought by a rich idiot who fired too many people who keep the site operating correctly and who's now running the site into the ground at a great rate of knots.
Seriously, I have no idea what's going with Musk, the man's a moron.

originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: AlienBorg

why ask a question if you're so utterly uninterested in answers?

Multiple people have explained what's going on to you, but instead of accepting that there's a wider thing going on that actual users of the site might understand, you're digging in your heels and going "no! the only problem is the one that has personally affected ME!" like you straight up acknowledge you don't have an account, why not listen to people who do? absolute catastrophic babymode over here

I don't have an account but I was able to view tweets. That's why I made this thread. Now I am not able to view tweets and the accounts I wanted to follow.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: gortex

Jesus Chrikey, being allowed to read upto 6000 tweets sounds like a punishment worse than death, who in their right mind would want to read that much inane babble, perhaps this restriction could be seen as a service to humanity, i take it prior to that you could read unlimited tweets

Agree with your sentiment, but I don't think that's what it's about. If "data scraping" is going on, then that has to do with scripted bots viewing Twitter posts in normally massive numbers. I don't think any human will be put-off by being limited to 600 or even 6000 posts (I hope). It is, however, a big crimp in the style of persons without Twitter accounts that might go to a handful of tweets a day at most, pointed there by article and post links. Furthermore, I'd imagine that a lot of Twitter users depend on such viewership. I know I won't be bothering to click on any more Twitter links in the foreseeable future.

Seems like this is just one more reason people should leave Twitter and go to a better run site. It does make me wonder how many screw-ups Elon Musk has committed with Tesla and Space-X. He apparently is oblivious to the damage to Twitter that his cavalier actions are doing.

Not fair criticism on Elon as he has made quite a lot of positive changes since he took over. He fired a number of people who were ideologically driven (woke employees) when others walk out on their own. He said no more of this woke ideology on twitter and a number of discussions became possible again. He reinstated a lot of accounts banned by the woke regime.

Oh, I think it is more than fair. Yes, he fired a lot of people, and then he attempted to hire some of them back. He's refusing to pay for the office space he has rented. He has ignored labor laws as far as how employees were laid off.

Then there are all the screw-ups with Twitter itself, and his hypocrisy in running it. The "blue check" verified account used to mean something, and now it doesn't; in fact, accounts without blue checks now are more likely to be legit. Hate speech and other attacks are on the rise now that he has fired the work force that moderated Twitter. Musk claims he is for free speech, but then says he is going to ban the term "cis-male". And speaking of which, he says all sorts of things about what he is going to do concerning Twitter, and sometimes he follows through and sometimes he doesn't. He's like a petulant kid making threats. Then there was that big Twitter roll-out for DeSantis. Unless Musk was pwning DeSantis, that didn't go well. Then there was his threat to censor links to other news sites, such as to his buddy Matt Taibbi's Substack page. And his way of taking short-duration polls on Twitter to decide Twitter policy -- what a ridiculous way to come to decisions. I guess every interested Twitter user needs to hang out on Twitter 24/7 in case any crucial Twitter polls come down the pike.
Then there is the fact that he overpaid for it in the first place, and didn't do his due diligence in researching it more thoroughly to know what it was actually worth. And to purchase it, he has had to sell off stock in Tesla, which has dropped that company's stock price, hurting his investors and himself further. He totally dropped the ball on his fiduciary responsibility to his stock holders.

And then there is this most recent screw-up with access denied to people without Twitter accounts. You think that is going to somehow encourage people who have no interest in otherwise joining Twitter to all of a sudden do so? I think I can safely speak for millions of people when I say, "uh, no" to that proposition.

Take it from the mouth of the industrial magnate clown himself:

Elon Musk says 'many mistakes' made since Twitter takeover

And the proof in in the pudding of Elon's own polling found, which found that 57.5% of Twitter users polled want him to step down.

And there is the fact that he doesn't understand that Twitter isn't a tech company, but a media one.

What Elon Musk failed to understand about Twitter

Please spare us the love of your cult leader. Unless you consider the prime benchmark of Twitter's performance by its allowing back many previously banned accounts, and now making it easy for such persons to ban users they don't like, then Musk's Twitter running performance has been bad. It seems that Twitter was running fine before he came along. He's broken it.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: AlienBorg
I've just noticed you can't access twitter pages if you don't login to your account. Until now you could access any public page even if you didn't have an account.

You don't need an account to access twitter pages unless it's private tweets that are only visible to those who follow these accounts.

All attempts I have made direct me to this page

twitter.com...

Anyone knows what is going on?

Yes. Twitter was bought by a rich idiot who fired too many people who keep the site operating correctly and who's now running the site into the ground at a great rate of knots.
Seriously, I have no idea what's going with Musk, the man's a moron.

Elon fired the woke employees who brought the platform to disrepute. You could have your account suspended for stating facts. For example if you said sex is immutable and there are only two sexes you put yourself up for cancellation. I don't think he is a moron.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: gortex

Jesus Chrikey, being allowed to read upto 6000 tweets sounds like a punishment worse than death, who in their right mind would want to read that much inane babble, perhaps this restriction could be seen as a service to humanity, i take it prior to that you could read unlimited tweets

Agree with your sentiment, but I don't think that's what it's about. If "data scraping" is going on, then that has to do with scripted bots viewing Twitter posts in normally massive numbers. I don't think any human will be put-off by being limited to 600 or even 6000 posts (I hope). It is, however, a big crimp in the style of persons without Twitter accounts that might go to a handful of tweets a day at most, pointed there by article and post links. Furthermore, I'd imagine that a lot of Twitter users depend on such viewership. I know I won't be bothering to click on any more Twitter links in the foreseeable future.

Seems like this is just one more reason people should leave Twitter and go to a better run site. It does make me wonder how many screw-ups Elon Musk has committed with Tesla and Space-X. He apparently is oblivious to the damage to Twitter that his cavalier actions are doing.

Not fair criticism on Elon as he has made quite a lot of positive changes since he took over. He fired a number of people who were ideologically driven (woke employees) when others walk out on their own. He said no more of this woke ideology on twitter and a number of discussions became possible again. He reinstated a lot of accounts banned by the woke regime.

Oh, I think it is more than fair. Yes, he fired a lot of people, and then he attempted to hire some of them back. He's refusing to pay for the office space he has rented. He has ignored labor laws as far as how employees were laid off.

Then there are all the screw-ups with Twitter itself, and his hypocrisy in running it. The "blue check" verified account used to mean something, and now it doesn't; in fact, accounts without blue checks now are more likely to be legit. Hate speech and other attacks are on the rise now that he has fired the work force that moderated Twitter. Musk claims he is for free speech, but then says he is going to ban the term "cis-male". And speaking of which, he says all sorts of things about what he is going to do concerning Twitter, and sometimes he follows through and sometimes he doesn't. He's like a petulant kid making threats. Then there was that big Twitter roll-out for DeSantis. Unless Musk was pwning DeSantis, that didn't go well. Then there was his threat to censor links to other news sites, such as to his buddy Matt Taibbi's Substack page. And his way of taking short-duration polls on Twitter to decide Twitter policy -- what a ridiculous way to come to decisions. I guess every interested Twitter user needs to hang out on Twitter 24/7 in case any crucial Twitter polls come down the pike.
Then there is the fact that he overpaid for it in the first place, and didn't do his due diligence in researching it more thoroughly to know what it was actually worth. And to purchase it, he has had to sell off stock in Tesla, which has dropped that company's stock price, hurting his investors and himself further. He totally dropped the ball on his fiduciary responsibility to his stock holders.

And then there is this most recent screw-up with access denied to people without Twitter accounts. You think that is going to somehow encourage people who have no interest in otherwise joining Twitter to all of a sudden do so? I think I can safely speak for millions of people when I say, "uh, no" to that proposition.

Take it from the mouth of the industrial magnate clown himself:

Elon Musk says 'many mistakes' made since Twitter takeover

And the proof in in the pudding of Elon's own polling found, which found that 57.5% of Twitter users polled want him to step down.

And there is the fact that he doesn't understand that Twitter isn't a tech company, but a media one.

What Elon Musk failed to understand about Twitter

Please spare us the love of your cult leader. Unless you consider the prime benchmark of Twitter's performance by its allowing back many previously banned accounts, and now making it easy for such persons to ban users they don't like, then Musk's Twitter running performance has been bad. It seems that Twitter was running fine before he came along. He's broken it.

We cannot believe in these polls I am afraid.
You're missing the point. I don't have a twitter account. I made the thread because I was unable to view tweets, something I could do until a few days ago.

Speaking of cults, I think Elon made a wise move by firing employees who belonged to the woke cult. You guys seem angry woke is loosing the cultural wars.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: AlienBorg

The issue is also for those that don't pay for a blue check mark. They are limited as well. Many stated they are receiving a threshold limit reached after browsing for a few minutes. Blue check marks have a higher limit. Most willing to pay are Elon fans and the far right. So sure, a very limited discussion is available if you're speaking of discussion among all persuasions of people. Spoutible,Post,and Bluesky have seen a big upsurge in members since Saturday apparently.

I don't think you will be limited if you don't have a blue check mark. Until now you were able to browse anything you want and even if you don't have an account you were able to view tweets and other twitter accounts. The main issue is those who don't have an account and are no longer able to view anything.

Yeah, that is a just a wee bit of a problem, isn't it? Which seems to be the primary point of this thread. If Twitter posters who rely on it for views can't get views from people without Twitter accounts, they are likely to go elsewhere. And it's not as if these multiple fails by Twitter aren't affecting ad revenue because of advertisers fleeing in droves.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

We cannot believe in these polls I am afraid.
You're missing the point. I don't have a twitter account. I made the thread because I was unable to view tweets, something I could do until a few days ago.

Speaking of cults, I think Elon made a wise move by firing employees who belonged to the woke cult.

Sweet Geezus. It was a poll on Twitter by Elon Musk! Unless you're suggesting it was a fake Elon Musk account that made the poll tweet.

Also noticed you didn't address any of the other screw-ups by Musk at Twitter, which I mentioned -- and I mentioned a multitude of them. You even acknowledge the current issue with Twitter, which affected you directly as you say, yet your defending the owner who caused the problem. Sounds like you're in a co-dependent relationship with an abusive social media site owner.

And I now see where you're coming from. You got your own ideological hang-ups that are aligned with what Elon purports to believe. As for woke employees, a lot of the employees let go were not content providers, but coders. And even the ones that weren't fired were told, "hey, you gotta work a whole lot harder now and for more hours", never mind that isn't what they originally signed on for. And seriously, some billionaire who runs three companies doesn't have time to tweet every day as seems to be M.O., yet he expects his employees to put in even more hours.

I don't agree with content moderation decisions by Youtube and its demonetization of some channels, and I am sure there would be disagreements by me with the content moderation decisions of pre-Musk Twitter. But you know what, Twitter has just swung vastly to the opposite direction, bringing back previously banned accounts that had multiple instances of hate speech, as well as a former president who used social media to spread misinformation and attempt to use his followers to keep him in power illegally. And now, as I understand it, it is very easy to silence accounts of users on the opposite end of the political spectrum, so he has done nothing to maintain free speech on Twitter, only to promote alt-right and hate speech instead. As for his supposed former "woke" employees, I imagine he could've implemented policy changes which his content moderators would have followed. Instead, he just laid off the lot of them, along with a core group of programmers and other IT engineers.

By the way, it is the lurch to the right of speech on Twitter that is in large part scaring off advertisers. Going Reich doesn't necessarily mean getting rich.

Wow!

a reply to: MrInquisitive

Yeah, somebody says hate speech is on the rise. No proof, but Musk bad because media says so. Done more for the green industry agenda than virtually anybody alive, but also not a ball washer for the DNC and WEF all the time. It's a shame the left has turned into the tyrants they were supposed to protect the citizens from.

You know what's down at Twitter?

Collusion with the government to violate the first amendment and the disgusting child abuse material that proliferated while truthful post were censored for the government/pharma agenda.

You'll just have to live with all the tech sector except for Twitter, though I'll enjoy the bellyaching and "Twitter is finished". Meanwhile, the site is removing all the exploitation, both NGOs and their pet government agencies. The disgusting predators are no longer free to run their hashtags while the thousands of Twitter staff censored their political adversaries.

What do you think about the fact that Musk helped expose the US Government and its agencies operating a clandestine censorship operation colluding with politically connected tech insiders, including former intelligence agents, to violate the first amendment?