The moment the trans agenda goes off the rails thread

originally posted by: NotMEMaybeU

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
Opposition to U.S. banning of transgender care:

STATEMENT OF OPPOSITION TO LEGISLATION BANNING ACCESS TO GENDER-AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE IN THE US
Both the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and the US affiliate, the United States Professional Association for Transgender Health (USPATH), vehemently oppose the broad and sweeping legislation being introduced and ratified in states across the country to ban access to gender-affirming health care to transgender and gender diverse (TGD) people. WPATH’s long-standing Standards of Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse People, now in its eighth version (SOC8), explain in detail the science- and evidence-based benefits of gender affirming care for TGD people. Any legislation that restricts or prohibits access to this care is against best practice medical standards and is condemned by WPATH and USPATH.

“Anti-transgender health care legislation is not about protections for children but about eliminating transgender persons on a micro and macro scale,” said WPATH President, Dr. Marci Bowers. “It is a thinly veiled attempt to enforce the notion of a gender binary.” . . .

www.wpath.org...

...to enforce the notion of a gender binary"...that's what some people on this thread are trying to do.

I don't know about enforcement but gender is binary.

Basic fact

Obviously the trans lobby wants gender to be fluid and non-binary. But one needs to have a very bad relationship with reality to claim there are millions and millions of genders.

The WPATH and USPATH are not trans lobbyist they are medical professionals trying to help trans people and if they have to collectively release statements against discrimination by others, they kudos to them.

You're now appealing to emotions again after discussing gender is not binary.

Your link, banning 'gender affirming care', criticises the motives of those who are in favour. But there is no gender affirming care medically speaking. It's a pseudo-science the trans agenda fully supports. Butchering of genitalia together with hormones and never ending drugs is not only harmful but it's unethical and criminal.

Give examples of minors getting their genitalia "butchered".

That's an off topic discussion.

But the on topic discussion is the encouragement by the trans lobby on matters of self identity and the suggestions children and adults may have been born in the wrong body and so they need hormones and surgery.

I am sure by the way you will find a lot of cases of minors (online) who have been through 'gender affirmation care'

They do not always need hormones and surgery.

Most of the time children should be left to develop on their own with out outside influence. I'm relieved my cousin did not grow in this twisted reality. He was a very flamboyant fem boy growing up, even at a very young age. He would play with his boy toys and his sisters dolls, wear his mothers high heels etc. As he reached his teen years, he still carried himself more fem then masculine. Alot of people thought he was gay, but has never shown interest in other men, always dated females. He is now in his 40's, still fem, but is married to a beautiful woman with 2 awesome kids . I think if he would of been born today, he would of been told, pressured etc that he was something that he is not.

It is not particularly unusual for a gay man to choose to live a straight life.

It’s also not unusual for them to come out late in life.

Not saying your cousin is gay. Being flamboyant does not automatically make a man gay.

BACK TO: Trans agenda.

Who determines it’s an agenda?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NotMEMaybeU

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
Opposition to U.S. banning of transgender care:

STATEMENT OF OPPOSITION TO LEGISLATION BANNING ACCESS TO GENDER-AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE IN THE US
Both the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and the US affiliate, the United States Professional Association for Transgender Health (USPATH), vehemently oppose the broad and sweeping legislation being introduced and ratified in states across the country to ban access to gender-affirming health care to transgender and gender diverse (TGD) people. WPATH’s long-standing Standards of Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse People, now in its eighth version (SOC8), explain in detail the science- and evidence-based benefits of gender affirming care for TGD people. Any legislation that restricts or prohibits access to this care is against best practice medical standards and is condemned by WPATH and USPATH.

“Anti-transgender health care legislation is not about protections for children but about eliminating transgender persons on a micro and macro scale,” said WPATH President, Dr. Marci Bowers. “It is a thinly veiled attempt to enforce the notion of a gender binary.” . . .

www.wpath.org...

...to enforce the notion of a gender binary"...that's what some people on this thread are trying to do.

I don't know about enforcement but gender is binary.

Basic fact

Obviously the trans lobby wants gender to be fluid and non-binary. But one needs to have a very bad relationship with reality to claim there are millions and millions of genders.

The WPATH and USPATH are not trans lobbyist they are medical professionals trying to help trans people and if they have to collectively release statements against discrimination by others, they kudos to them.

You're now appealing to emotions again after discussing gender is not binary.

Your link, banning 'gender affirming care', criticises the motives of those who are in favour. But there is no gender affirming care medically speaking. It's a pseudo-science the trans agenda fully supports. Butchering of genitalia together with hormones and never ending drugs is not only harmful but it's unethical and criminal.

Give examples of minors getting their genitalia "butchered".

That's an off topic discussion.

But the on topic discussion is the encouragement by the trans lobby on matters of self identity and the suggestions children and adults may have been born in the wrong body and so they need hormones and surgery.

I am sure by the way you will find a lot of cases of minors (online) who have been through 'gender affirmation care'

They do not always need hormones and surgery.

Most of the time children should be left to develop on their own with out outside influence. I'm relieved my cousin did not grow in this twisted reality. He was a very flamboyant fem boy growing up, even at a very young age. He would play with his boy toys and his sisters dolls, wear his mothers high heels etc. As he reached his teen years, he still carried himself more fem then masculine. Alot of people thought he was gay, but has never shown interest in other men, always dated females. He is now in his 40's, still fem, but is married to a beautiful woman with 2 awesome kids . I think if he would of been born today, he would of been told, pressured etc that he was something that he is not.

It is not particularly unusual for a gay man to choose to live a straight life.

It’s also not unusual for them to come out late in life.

Not saying your cousin is gay. Being flamboyant does not automatically make a man gay.

BACK TO: Trans agenda.

Who determines it’s an agenda?

That's false and in this case a strawman argument. Men who are feminine are not gay or trans.

The difference is gay people do exist, being transgender had never been achieved, despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue you can transition between genders.

And gender = sex
despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue gender is something else

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NotMEMaybeU

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
Opposition to U.S. banning of transgender care:

STATEMENT OF OPPOSITION TO LEGISLATION BANNING ACCESS TO GENDER-AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE IN THE US
Both the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and the US affiliate, the United States Professional Association for Transgender Health (USPATH), vehemently oppose the broad and sweeping legislation being introduced and ratified in states across the country to ban access to gender-affirming health care to transgender and gender diverse (TGD) people. WPATH’s long-standing Standards of Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse People, now in its eighth version (SOC8), explain in detail the science- and evidence-based benefits of gender affirming care for TGD people. Any legislation that restricts or prohibits access to this care is against best practice medical standards and is condemned by WPATH and USPATH.

“Anti-transgender health care legislation is not about protections for children but about eliminating transgender persons on a micro and macro scale,” said WPATH President, Dr. Marci Bowers. “It is a thinly veiled attempt to enforce the notion of a gender binary.” . . .

www.wpath.org...

...to enforce the notion of a gender binary"...that's what some people on this thread are trying to do.

I don't know about enforcement but gender is binary.

Basic fact

Obviously the trans lobby wants gender to be fluid and non-binary. But one needs to have a very bad relationship with reality to claim there are millions and millions of genders.

The WPATH and USPATH are not trans lobbyist they are medical professionals trying to help trans people and if they have to collectively release statements against discrimination by others, they kudos to them.

You're now appealing to emotions again after discussing gender is not binary.

Your link, banning 'gender affirming care', criticises the motives of those who are in favour. But there is no gender affirming care medically speaking. It's a pseudo-science the trans agenda fully supports. Butchering of genitalia together with hormones and never ending drugs is not only harmful but it's unethical and criminal.

Give examples of minors getting their genitalia "butchered".

That's an off topic discussion.

But the on topic discussion is the encouragement by the trans lobby on matters of self identity and the suggestions children and adults may have been born in the wrong body and so they need hormones and surgery.

I am sure by the way you will find a lot of cases of minors (online) who have been through 'gender affirmation care'

They do not always need hormones and surgery.

Most of the time children should be left to develop on their own with out outside influence. I'm relieved my cousin did not grow in this twisted reality. He was a very flamboyant fem boy growing up, even at a very young age. He would play with his boy toys and his sisters dolls, wear his mothers high heels etc. As he reached his teen years, he still carried himself more fem then masculine. Alot of people thought he was gay, but has never shown interest in other men, always dated females. He is now in his 40's, still fem, but is married to a beautiful woman with 2 awesome kids . I think if he would of been born today, he would of been told, pressured etc that he was something that he is not.

It is not particularly unusual for a gay man to choose to live a straight life.

It’s also not unusual for them to come out late in life.

Not saying your cousin is gay. Being flamboyant does not automatically make a man gay.

BACK TO: Trans agenda.

Who determines it’s an agenda?

That's false and in this case a strawman argument. Men who are feminine are not gay or trans.

The difference is gay people do exist, being transgender had never been achieved, despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue you can transition between genders.

And gender = sex
despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue gender is something else

I would be interested in where your beliefs/philosophy comes from.

Do you have a degree in this field?

Is it religious based?

Personal experience?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NotMEMaybeU

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
Opposition to U.S. banning of transgender care:

STATEMENT OF OPPOSITION TO LEGISLATION BANNING ACCESS TO GENDER-AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE IN THE US
Both the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and the US affiliate, the United States Professional Association for Transgender Health (USPATH), vehemently oppose the broad and sweeping legislation being introduced and ratified in states across the country to ban access to gender-affirming health care to transgender and gender diverse (TGD) people. WPATH’s long-standing Standards of Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse People, now in its eighth version (SOC8), explain in detail the science- and evidence-based benefits of gender affirming care for TGD people. Any legislation that restricts or prohibits access to this care is against best practice medical standards and is condemned by WPATH and USPATH.

“Anti-transgender health care legislation is not about protections for children but about eliminating transgender persons on a micro and macro scale,” said WPATH President, Dr. Marci Bowers. “It is a thinly veiled attempt to enforce the notion of a gender binary.” . . .

www.wpath.org...

...to enforce the notion of a gender binary"...that's what some people on this thread are trying to do.

I don't know about enforcement but gender is binary.

Basic fact

Obviously the trans lobby wants gender to be fluid and non-binary. But one needs to have a very bad relationship with reality to claim there are millions and millions of genders.

The WPATH and USPATH are not trans lobbyist they are medical professionals trying to help trans people and if they have to collectively release statements against discrimination by others, they kudos to them.

You're now appealing to emotions again after discussing gender is not binary.

Your link, banning 'gender affirming care', criticises the motives of those who are in favour. But there is no gender affirming care medically speaking. It's a pseudo-science the trans agenda fully supports. Butchering of genitalia together with hormones and never ending drugs is not only harmful but it's unethical and criminal.

Give examples of minors getting their genitalia "butchered".

That's an off topic discussion.

But the on topic discussion is the encouragement by the trans lobby on matters of self identity and the suggestions children and adults may have been born in the wrong body and so they need hormones and surgery.

I am sure by the way you will find a lot of cases of minors (online) who have been through 'gender affirmation care'

They do not always need hormones and surgery.

Most of the time children should be left to develop on their own with out outside influence. I'm relieved my cousin did not grow in this twisted reality. He was a very flamboyant fem boy growing up, even at a very young age. He would play with his boy toys and his sisters dolls, wear his mothers high heels etc. As he reached his teen years, he still carried himself more fem then masculine. Alot of people thought he was gay, but has never shown interest in other men, always dated females. He is now in his 40's, still fem, but is married to a beautiful woman with 2 awesome kids . I think if he would of been born today, he would of been told, pressured etc that he was something that he is not.

It is not particularly unusual for a gay man to choose to live a straight life.

It’s also not unusual for them to come out late in life.

Not saying your cousin is gay. Being flamboyant does not automatically make a man gay.

BACK TO: Trans agenda.

Who determines it’s an agenda?

That's false and in this case a strawman argument. Men who are feminine are not gay or trans.

The difference is gay people do exist, being transgender had never been achieved, despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue you can transition between genders.

And gender = sex
despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue gender is something else

I would be interested in where your beliefs/philosophy comes from.

Do you have a degree in this field?

Is it religious based?

Personal experience?

You need a degree in basic logic?
I didn't know this.

Beliefs? Me?
Perhaps you should be looking at the claims made by the trans activists and the trans lobby. It takes s lot of belief and conviction to say there are billions of genders and anyone can transition between them.

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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

this thread is totally circular, and now pointless. Closing it would likely save lives in small countries.
as always, have a super day!

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NotMEMaybeU

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
Opposition to U.S. banning of transgender care:

STATEMENT OF OPPOSITION TO LEGISLATION BANNING ACCESS TO GENDER-AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE IN THE US
Both the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and the US affiliate, the United States Professional Association for Transgender Health (USPATH), vehemently oppose the broad and sweeping legislation being introduced and ratified in states across the country to ban access to gender-affirming health care to transgender and gender diverse (TGD) people. WPATH’s long-standing Standards of Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse People, now in its eighth version (SOC8), explain in detail the science- and evidence-based benefits of gender affirming care for TGD people. Any legislation that restricts or prohibits access to this care is against best practice medical standards and is condemned by WPATH and USPATH.

“Anti-transgender health care legislation is not about protections for children but about eliminating transgender persons on a micro and macro scale,” said WPATH President, Dr. Marci Bowers. “It is a thinly veiled attempt to enforce the notion of a gender binary.” . . .

www.wpath.org...

...to enforce the notion of a gender binary"...that's what some people on this thread are trying to do.

I don't know about enforcement but gender is binary.

Basic fact

Obviously the trans lobby wants gender to be fluid and non-binary. But one needs to have a very bad relationship with reality to claim there are millions and millions of genders.

The WPATH and USPATH are not trans lobbyist they are medical professionals trying to help trans people and if they have to collectively release statements against discrimination by others, they kudos to them.

You're now appealing to emotions again after discussing gender is not binary.

Your link, banning 'gender affirming care', criticises the motives of those who are in favour. But there is no gender affirming care medically speaking. It's a pseudo-science the trans agenda fully supports. Butchering of genitalia together with hormones and never ending drugs is not only harmful but it's unethical and criminal.

Give examples of minors getting their genitalia "butchered".

That's an off topic discussion.

But the on topic discussion is the encouragement by the trans lobby on matters of self identity and the suggestions children and adults may have been born in the wrong body and so they need hormones and surgery.

I am sure by the way you will find a lot of cases of minors (online) who have been through 'gender affirmation care'

They do not always need hormones and surgery.

Most of the time children should be left to develop on their own with out outside influence. I'm relieved my cousin did not grow in this twisted reality. He was a very flamboyant fem boy growing up, even at a very young age. He would play with his boy toys and his sisters dolls, wear his mothers high heels etc. As he reached his teen years, he still carried himself more fem then masculine. Alot of people thought he was gay, but has never shown interest in other men, always dated females. He is now in his 40's, still fem, but is married to a beautiful woman with 2 awesome kids . I think if he would of been born today, he would of been told, pressured etc that he was something that he is not.

It is not particularly unusual for a gay man to choose to live a straight life.

It’s also not unusual for them to come out late in life.

Not saying your cousin is gay. Being flamboyant does not automatically make a man gay.

BACK TO: Trans agenda.

Who determines it’s an agenda?

Every movement has an agenda. Why create fake confusion and derailment with questions that don’t confirm or disprove anything at all ?
Please don’t immediately ask who determines it’s a movement. That would just be too far down the deliberate aggravation path.

originally posted by: network dude
this thread is totally circular, and now pointless. Closing it would likely save lives in small countries.
as always, have a super day!

I couldn't agree more. I understand the need to consolidate trans threads because people are obsessed with this topic and multitudes of them aren't a good look but this one is nothing but back and forth bickering that is going nowhere and has run its course.

81 pages and no one that's pushing trans activism will agree to leave the children alone.

I'm done here.

I tried.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

this thread is totally circular, and now pointless. Closing it would likely save lives in small countries.
as always, have a super day!

Lol yeah, a bunch of carefully cultivated annoyance, and pointless questions, and posts that have literally no purpose ….. sure do gum up the works.
Which is of course the whole point / plan.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
81 pages and no one that's pushing trans activism will agree to leave the children alone.

I'm done here.

I tried.

Looks like it's been doubled down upon instead.


Weird.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NotMEMaybeU

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
Opposition to U.S. banning of transgender care:

STATEMENT OF OPPOSITION TO LEGISLATION BANNING ACCESS TO GENDER-AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE IN THE US
Both the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and the US affiliate, the United States Professional Association for Transgender Health (USPATH), vehemently oppose the broad and sweeping legislation being introduced and ratified in states across the country to ban access to gender-affirming health care to transgender and gender diverse (TGD) people. WPATH’s long-standing Standards of Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse People, now in its eighth version (SOC8), explain in detail the science- and evidence-based benefits of gender affirming care for TGD people. Any legislation that restricts or prohibits access to this care is against best practice medical standards and is condemned by WPATH and USPATH.

“Anti-transgender health care legislation is not about protections for children but about eliminating transgender persons on a micro and macro scale,” said WPATH President, Dr. Marci Bowers. “It is a thinly veiled attempt to enforce the notion of a gender binary.” . . .

www.wpath.org...

...to enforce the notion of a gender binary"...that's what some people on this thread are trying to do.

I don't know about enforcement but gender is binary.

Basic fact

Obviously the trans lobby wants gender to be fluid and non-binary. But one needs to have a very bad relationship with reality to claim there are millions and millions of genders.

The WPATH and USPATH are not trans lobbyist they are medical professionals trying to help trans people and if they have to collectively release statements against discrimination by others, they kudos to them.

You're now appealing to emotions again after discussing gender is not binary.

Your link, banning 'gender affirming care', criticises the motives of those who are in favour. But there is no gender affirming care medically speaking. It's a pseudo-science the trans agenda fully supports. Butchering of genitalia together with hormones and never ending drugs is not only harmful but it's unethical and criminal.

Give examples of minors getting their genitalia "butchered".

That's an off topic discussion.

But the on topic discussion is the encouragement by the trans lobby on matters of self identity and the suggestions children and adults may have been born in the wrong body and so they need hormones and surgery.

I am sure by the way you will find a lot of cases of minors (online) who have been through 'gender affirmation care'

They do not always need hormones and surgery.

Most of the time children should be left to develop on their own with out outside influence. I'm relieved my cousin did not grow in this twisted reality. He was a very flamboyant fem boy growing up, even at a very young age. He would play with his boy toys and his sisters dolls, wear his mothers high heels etc. As he reached his teen years, he still carried himself more fem then masculine. Alot of people thought he was gay, but has never shown interest in other men, always dated females. He is now in his 40's, still fem, but is married to a beautiful woman with 2 awesome kids . I think if he would of been born today, he would of been told, pressured etc that he was something that he is not.

It is not particularly unusual for a gay man to choose to live a straight life.

It’s also not unusual for them to come out late in life.

Not saying your cousin is gay. Being flamboyant does not automatically make a man gay.

BACK TO: Trans agenda.

Who determines it’s an agenda?

That's false and in this case a strawman argument. Men who are feminine are not gay or trans.

The difference is gay people do exist, being transgender had never been achieved, despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue you can transition between genders.

And gender = sex
despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue gender is something else

I would be interested in where your beliefs/philosophy comes from.

Do you have a degree in this field?

Is it religious based?

Personal experience?

You need a degree in basic logic?
I didn't know this.

Beliefs? Me?
Perhaps you should be looking at the claims made by the trans activists and the trans lobby. It takes s lot of belief and conviction to say there are billions of genders and anyone can transition between them.

Lol, beat me to it.

I was gonna say it doesn’t need to come from anything besides basic logic and reason.

A human body won’t magically transform from larva to pupa to butterfly, but the trans agenda says it does, with no evidence except for a barbaric butchery as the only method.

Which leaves it all in the head. Which is what you / we have been saying for 80 pages.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
81 pages and no one that's pushing trans activism will agree to leave the children alone.

I'm done here.

I tried.

Children or transgender children?

Been here with the gays. “It’s a choice”. NO it’s not.

Self righteous people making laws about something that is none of their business — denying medical/psychological care for children with gender dysphoria.

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NotMEMaybeU

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
Opposition to U.S. banning of transgender care:

STATEMENT OF OPPOSITION TO LEGISLATION BANNING ACCESS TO GENDER-AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE IN THE US
Both the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) and the US affiliate, the United States Professional Association for Transgender Health (USPATH), vehemently oppose the broad and sweeping legislation being introduced and ratified in states across the country to ban access to gender-affirming health care to transgender and gender diverse (TGD) people. WPATH’s long-standing Standards of Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse People, now in its eighth version (SOC8), explain in detail the science- and evidence-based benefits of gender affirming care for TGD people. Any legislation that restricts or prohibits access to this care is against best practice medical standards and is condemned by WPATH and USPATH.

“Anti-transgender health care legislation is not about protections for children but about eliminating transgender persons on a micro and macro scale,” said WPATH President, Dr. Marci Bowers. “It is a thinly veiled attempt to enforce the notion of a gender binary.” . . .

www.wpath.org...

...to enforce the notion of a gender binary"...that's what some people on this thread are trying to do.

I don't know about enforcement but gender is binary.

Basic fact

Obviously the trans lobby wants gender to be fluid and non-binary. But one needs to have a very bad relationship with reality to claim there are millions and millions of genders.

The WPATH and USPATH are not trans lobbyist they are medical professionals trying to help trans people and if they have to collectively release statements against discrimination by others, they kudos to them.

You're now appealing to emotions again after discussing gender is not binary.

Your link, banning 'gender affirming care', criticises the motives of those who are in favour. But there is no gender affirming care medically speaking. It's a pseudo-science the trans agenda fully supports. Butchering of genitalia together with hormones and never ending drugs is not only harmful but it's unethical and criminal.

Give examples of minors getting their genitalia "butchered".

That's an off topic discussion.

But the on topic discussion is the encouragement by the trans lobby on matters of self identity and the suggestions children and adults may have been born in the wrong body and so they need hormones and surgery.

I am sure by the way you will find a lot of cases of minors (online) who have been through 'gender affirmation care'

They do not always need hormones and surgery.

Most of the time children should be left to develop on their own with out outside influence. I'm relieved my cousin did not grow in this twisted reality. He was a very flamboyant fem boy growing up, even at a very young age. He would play with his boy toys and his sisters dolls, wear his mothers high heels etc. As he reached his teen years, he still carried himself more fem then masculine. Alot of people thought he was gay, but has never shown interest in other men, always dated females. He is now in his 40's, still fem, but is married to a beautiful woman with 2 awesome kids . I think if he would of been born today, he would of been told, pressured etc that he was something that he is not.

It is not particularly unusual for a gay man to choose to live a straight life.

It’s also not unusual for them to come out late in life.

Not saying your cousin is gay. Being flamboyant does not automatically make a man gay.

BACK TO: Trans agenda.

Who determines it’s an agenda?

That's false and in this case a strawman argument. Men who are feminine are not gay or trans.

The difference is gay people do exist, being transgender had never been achieved, despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue you can transition between genders.

And gender = sex
despite the attempts made by the trans lobby to argue gender is something else

I would be interested in where your beliefs/philosophy comes from.

Do you have a degree in this field?

Is it religious based?

Personal experience?

You need a degree in basic logic?
I didn't know this.

Beliefs? Me?
Perhaps you should be looking at the claims made by the trans activists and the trans lobby. It takes s lot of belief and conviction to say there are billions of genders and anyone can transition between them.

Lol, beat me to it.

I was gonna say it doesn’t need to come from anything besides basic logic and reason.

A human body won’t magically transform from larva to pupa to butterfly, but the trans agenda says it does, with no evidence except for a barbaric butchery as the only method.

Which leaves it all in the head. Which is what you / we have been saying for 80 pages.

Based

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
81 pages and no one that's pushing trans activism will agree to leave the children alone.

I'm done here.

I tried.

Children or transgender children?

Been here with the gays. “It’s a choice”. NO it’s not.

Self righteous people making laws about something that is none of their business — denying medical/psychological care for children with gender dysphoria.

i mean, if i want to pimp out my daughter to a group of mentally ill people and have her genitals destroyed so i can impress all the mentally ill people

who should stop me right? none of their business!


eta

Children or transgender children?

since there is not , nor has there ever been , a "trans" person at all... its just plain "children"

originally posted by: Another_Nut

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
81 pages and no one that's pushing trans activism will agree to leave the children alone.

I'm done here.

I tried.

Children or transgender children?

Been here with the gays. “It’s a choice”. NO it’s not.

Self righteous people making laws about something that is none of their business — denying medical/psychological care for children with gender dysphoria.

i mean, if i want to pimp out my daughter to a group of mentally ill people and have her genitals destroyed so i can impress all the mentally ill people

who should stop me right? none of their business!


eta

Children or transgender children?

since there is not , nor has there ever been , a "trans" person at all... its just plain "children"

Your opinion is noted.

I 100% do not agree with you or others of same opinion.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Another_Nut

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
81 pages and no one that's pushing trans activism will agree to leave the children alone.

I'm done here.

I tried.

Children or transgender children?

Been here with the gays. “It’s a choice”. NO it’s not.

Self righteous people making laws about something that is none of their business — denying medical/psychological care for children with gender dysphoria.

i mean, if i want to pimp out my daughter to a group of mentally ill people and have her genitals destroyed so i can impress all the mentally ill people

who should stop me right? none of their business!


eta

Children or transgender children?

since there is not , nor has there ever been , a "trans" person at all... its just plain "children"

Your opinion is noted.

I 100% do not agree with you or others of same opinion.

where is this "trans" person who has changed sexes?

why is your genital mutilation, and the reasoning behind it, not the same?

i suspect you wont answer either of those questions.. since you havent in 81 pages and still think grooming a child is perfectly fine.

a reply to: Another_Nut

what's a few suicides when you can have sweet props to show your woke friends.

a reply to: network dude

Hey Big Boy , Buy Me a Drink ? ...............*)

originally posted by: Another_Nut

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Another_Nut

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
81 pages and no one that's pushing trans activism will agree to leave the children alone.

I'm done here.

I tried.

Children or transgender children?

Been here with the gays. “It’s a choice”. NO it’s not.

Self righteous people making laws about something that is none of their business — denying medical/psychological care for children with gender dysphoria.

i mean, if i want to pimp out my daughter to a group of mentally ill people and have her genitals destroyed so i can impress all the mentally ill people

who should stop me right? none of their business!


eta

Children or transgender children?

since there is not , nor has there ever been , a "trans" person at all... its just plain "children"

Your opinion is noted.

I 100% do not agree with you or others of same opinion.

where is this "trans" person who has changed sexes?

why is your genital mutilation, and the reasoning behind it, not the same?

i suspect you wont answer either of those questions.. since you havent in 81 pages and still think grooming a child is perfectly fine.

These questions have been answered repeatedly.

Can only lead a horse to water.