The moment the trans agenda goes off the rails thread

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Blah blah blah blah we need science to determine if boys and girls are different.

lol

Well they determine what is needed not you or anyone else for that matter.

Not in cases where transwomen's testosterone levels catch up to women athletes levels.

Hate to break it to you but science discovered looooooooooooooong ago that boys and girls are different.

Trust the science!

Not where transwomen's testosterone levels drop to match women's levels.

[U]nless you're a biologist, I'd stop right now.

As an actual biologist with 25+ years experience in bio-pharmaceutical manufacturing, I endorse this part of DC's statement.

Of course, you are not working in the exact field of study we are discussing, so come back with an endorsement from an actual scientist working in this field.

'Actual scientist?' Your arrogance is astounding.

Any biological scientist (myself included) has the schooling and knowledge to know the differences between the male and female body, the embryonic development, the structural difference in the bones, the hormone levels in the blood, etc.

Seriously, stop before you embarrass yourself even more.

You who are not even researching the subject matter, I'd say you should be embarrassed for offering nothing but biased opinion.

Dude, we get it. You won't give up. You are invested at this point.

You want to think there is some great mystery between male and female physiology, and no doubt there are a few things we can still learn. But there is no groundbreaking epiphany about giving testosterone to biological women or testosterone blockers to already-developed biological men.

I don't follow opinions from anyone not actually doing transgender research. I am invested in truth and science and it appears I am one of a very few number here on this site.

No, you are only interested in conclusions that support your personal beliefs..sorry, that's how most see it.

Ha ha. I see it the opposite way, the only difference is I provide actual scientific research sources whereas most of you in opposition provide nadda in the way of science or truth.

Ya, science is wrong often enough, we can just see whats happening. For example, are you claiming Lia Thomas is a fair match against the women? clearly he has an advantage.

I don't know the particulars of those people nor have I looked up any research related to this case, so I cannot comment.

But I thought you were all about the research???..interesting, I added some to my previous post.

Really, I must have missed because nobody anti-LGBTQ ever adds any sources. I'll have a look then.

I find it extremely hard to believe someone this invested doesn't know what I'm talking about. I'm not sure if you are an actual person at this point..no offence intended.

Instead of getting it more wrong and going off topic just repost the source in your next post to me and then we can go from there.

Here is one weightlifter
www.washingtonpost.com...< br /> Lia Thomas
www.newyorker.com...

I'm not wrong.

originally posted by: vonclod
Here is one weightlifter
www.washingtonpost.com...< br /> Lia Thomas
www.newyorker.com...

I'm not wrong.

All that was before the 2021 review of scientific and grey literature on transgender athlete participation in competitive sport. It's all changed now, so anything before 2021 is basically now a nothingburger.

www.cces.ca...

it says a lot when you had do dig for it way back to 2017.

However, the scope of this review was limited to binary trans women who are elite athletes and was not sport specific.

Now for Lia.

www.independent.co.uk...

Some more
readlion.com...#:~:text=In%20February%202022%2C%20Newell%20made,ratified%20Newell 's%20record%2Dbreaking%20time.

komonews.com... ted-transgender-athlete-university-of-pennsylvania-ncaa-swim-swimming-men-women-freestyle

Great examples here
adflegal.org...

Anyway..have fun! I have better things to do.

a reply to: quintessentone

All that was before the 2021 review of scientific and grey literature on transgender athlete participation in competitive sport. It's all changed now, so anything before 2021 is basically now a nothingburger.

Bullsh@t! ..what changed..lol

Peace, I'm out!

originally posted by: vonclod
Some more
readlion.com...#:~:text=In%20February%202022%2C%20Newell%20made,ratified%20Newell 's%20record%2Dbreaking%20time.

komonews.com... ted-transgender-athlete-university-of-pennsylvania-ncaa-swim-swimming-men-women-freestyle

Great examples here
adflegal.org...

Anyway..have fun! I have better things to do.

So do I, and I already made my point with the above sources.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: vonclod
Some more
readlion.com...#:~:text=In%20February%202022%2C%20Newell%20made,ratified%20Newell 's%20record%2Dbreaking%20time.

komonews.com... ted-transgender-athlete-university-of-pennsylvania-ncaa-swim-swimming-men-women-freestyle

Great examples here
adflegal.org...

Anyway..have fun! I have better things to do.

So do I, and I already made my point with the above sources.

Exactly!! you are only interested in confirming your personal feels..lol

I really am out..bye!

Scientific evidence shows that men on hormones and everything to be like women actually do not have an advantage over women in sports.

originally posted by: darkbake
Scientific evidence shows that men on hormones and everything to be like women actually do not have an advantage over women in sports.

That's what the scientific evidence points to but...deaf ears.

I will say this but once, pertaining to transwomen in women's sports, it's a fine balance between equality and actually testing chemical levels with ELITE athletes. If you really have an issue with this then protest to the people running the events because they have the final say.

a reply to: network dude

another point that denotes what is happening is driven by religion (in terms of belief).. we saw something similar at the tail end of the british empire from eugenics of Galton, keynes and Beveridge, all the way through to British Israelism and like this its another form of exceptionalism to cling to the last scraps of power in the face of an evolving world*

I tend to view it as a clash of high church thinking vs low church thinking that has left the establishment embracing the new religion and making so many policy missteps in the meanwhile.

its also why the west will continue to be doomed until it develops a broadchurch political outlook and sheds the Millenarian outlook of the green groups..

eta
* i honestly think the us and west will be just fine if it can move beyond being the front for a Millenarian death cults

Why isn't every transwomen winning?

If the biological setup is so defining and unfair every transwomen should win all the time in every category.

Is that the case? Doesn't seems so...

I guess some are just bad loosers, and their transphobia/sexism doesn't help hiding that.

a reply to: quintessentone

Why not advocate to also remove lesbians from women's locker rooms too? Where is that outrage?

We didn't reach that level of idiocy yet, thankfully.

You basically said that lesbians are all over-sexualised and prey on every woman by common... and compared apples and cherries.

The sane people that are against men in our bathrooms understand, that it is about dicks and vaginas and not who likes to screw who. Because in one case the difference is clearly visible and understood even by children -unless groomed-, the other is just a preference that is not visible.

a reply to: TDDAgain

Lesbians aren't widely known to be rapists. You dont hear about that very often.

Im an average looking woman. Been hit on, pursued and stalked by men since I was 13. I'm 67 and still get a wink or two. Have been hit on by a woman ONCE. Maybe I didn't pick up more subtle clues from others, but the motorcycle riding lady was obvious. And it was outside a bar. Not in a bathroom.

So I just don't get uncomfortable with women in the women's room. I do with a male, even if he is wearing a dress and makeup.

That's just me and it's not so rare.

a reply to: CryHavoc
gays against groomers

So this just popped up this week in the lead-up to the Gay Pride Parade in Chicago today.

Gays Against Groomers

I'd never heard of it before this week.

Of course, it looks to have been attacked like crazy.

From Wikipedia: Gays Against Groomers is an American far-right anti-LGBT organization known for campaigning against gender-affirming care for minors.


Now, how can someone be Gay AND far-right and anti-LGBT?

Isn't that like saying Hitler was Jewish?

Has anyone else seen this and why isn't it on mainstream news?

Anti groomer = anti lgbt

Self explanatory

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Lesbians aren't widely known to be rapists.

No, they are not known, but it happens, there are also pedophile women that prey on little girls. Dont ask...

I do not want men or men acting like women in our bathrooms, toilets, showers or locker rooms. It's not about feeling uncomfortable, I go to nude beaches, too. It's all about my choice.

When I go to the nude beach, I consent and have to expect people looking at me. Even though most that go there do not have interest in looking at others, they just want to chill or tan naked.

When I go into shower where I do private business like washing my private parts or similar intimate moments, I expect, via sanity, that men or wanna be women stay the ### out of this area.

a reply to: TDDAgain

You are a brave and confident lady! I've never been to a nude beach.

I skinny dipped in the Rio Grande RIver once. And in a hot spring. It was kinda uncomfortable because there were fewer of us buck than not. Back in college. So I just never had the inclination to go to a nude beach, after those less than thrilling experiences.

Shooting the flumes topless was a hoot! Cut off jeans were a must for protection against rocks and such.
Just you, a fresh twisty and the aquaduct. Keep your head lower than the crossbeams, float along and shoot out the bottom into a deep pool.

Get out, run back up the river and go again.

a reply to: SigmaXSquared

Indeed. The ones that accept this grooming behavior or try to ignore it, so they won't have to face the collapse of their personal echo chamber and believe system, are supporting grooming and pedophiles.

There's just no excuse about it. I did not see or hear the LGBTQ community speak up about this. Quiet the contrary: They even support them by using terms like MAP only so their have a bigger coverage.

And I can claim that LGBTQ community as a whole is supporting pedophiles. Because if the LGBTQ communities argument is that if I am bi I belong to them and since they act like speaking for all and everyone, they cast a bad light on people that just want to live and let live, gloves are off and I can play that game too.

TL;DR
Everyone, no matter if normal,gay,bi,trans or whatever, who is in solitary with the "LGBTQ community" as a whole, is also a hidden major pedophile supporter since the oh so outspoken LGBTQ community align with the monsters.

I am not a big fan of "in for a penny, in for a pound" but in this case I make an exception since it's about protecting children.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I understand that a chant was heard at a Pride March.... 'we are coming for your children'.... is how it ended.

My momma always told me if I listen, people will tell me their truth.

Its my game from there to deny it.