Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way

a reply to: beyondknowledge2

Though if the systems in board haven’t been tested for longevity, you would have thunk that they would have redundancies in place.

Such as a standby sub a fully certified proven one,to at least be able to be launched at the first’s signs of trouble.

At a minimum you would expect the sub that’s lost would have an epirb to at least be initiated at the moment of trouble to assist rescue and locating them.

I read yesterday they were still on their way down and about 15 minutes from the Titanic. But who really knows. They are saying underwater noises are being detected while looking for the sub.

a reply to: robsmith

All of that sounds reasonable. In this case, it seems they did not plan for any problems very well at all.

If they don't make it, the fact the head of the company is on board will be letting him off easy.

a reply to: beyondknowledge2

Though I saw a video on the ceo talking about the sub being controlled by a wireless remote he seeme remiss of safety, seemed like a salesman who wanted to look cool.

Seeing the internal pics of the sub there appears to be no bulkhead rings internally, which I would presume they would have strengthened the hull, as it appears to be a cylinder. I am not an engineer though it’s better to be safer than sorry.

Though reading about his own staff’s concerns for safety and being dismissed look like a bad safety culture.

Deleted my post due to questionable source I quoted

I don't post much on here. But after following this on the news a lot and reading a lot about shop wrecks etc over the years. I came across this article yesterday.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Thoughts on this? Why not have all the help they can get?

Shahzada Dawood is part of the WEF and been vocal about not liking Klaus Schwab..

There is a big red WEF smoking gun here and no one is talking about... I wonder if Harding has any connection..

Dawood is also on the Seti Board of Trustees...

Smells really fishy to me

www.weforum.org...

I just watched a nice YT video about the production, testing & evaluation of the DSV Limiting Factor:

www.youtube.com...

Maybe the video is slightly offtopic but it was interesting to see the contrast between the Triton team and OceanGate's CEO professionalism, QC & accountability.

The Triton team...everything from designing the vehicle, testing (going to Russia to stresstest the bell), evaluating, certify etc...they seemed to take it very seriously, then when testing the vehicle in the water for the first time, they identified multiple problems, owned up to it and then fixing them, thats what you do, you can't fix something or improve something if you refuse to identify problems

Then we have Stockton Rush who refused the suggested improvement to the structure, refused more expensive testing, encountered potential delamination problems in the CF tube even all the way back to the 1/3 scale model but still refused NDT/NDI (apparantly a non proven strain gauge system would automatically identify overstresses, how they would know what overstress is is still unclear to me since they did not check the layup for voids & delamination from the manufacturing process, let alone after cycling the structure), refused DNV inspection, ignored & fired Lochridge & also ignored experts that was worried about the "experimental" nature of the vessle etc etc

Yeah, i think everyone already know Stockton's mentality by now from everything we read and seen in videos, there is an undeniable contrast between Titus & OceanGate (more specifically Stockton)

I thought the very same thing, WEF red flag all over this, thats why they won't allow outside help! a reply to: TheLyingCat

Agenda Free TV has been covering this live every day since it started.
He has been going for like 7 or 8 hours a day on it but not really a lot of new news.

In this report, one U.S. vessel heard a possible implosion.

a reply to: vonclod

The underwater network would have easily heard if it went, but the problem is that the guys running the network almost certainly aren't going to release that until they clean up a lot of information about how sensitive the network is.

a reply to: Cymru

In the same vein of "Lets build the most extreme thing we can in our back yard" , we have Mad Mike Hughes , a flat earther who try to fly a homemade steam rocket to prove earth is flat

He wound up flat when it crashed into desert .......

www.bbc.com...

In Denmark we have COPENHAGEN SUBORBITALS attempting to build a rocket capable of launching a person past the Karman Line

I've been following them for past 5 years, they are several orders of magnitude over the submarine clowns

Recently made a major design shift in their booster, after attempting to construct a rocket fueled by ethyl alcohol and Lox ( Think V2 or Redstone) with thrust of 100 K newton (~ 23 ,000 lbs) decided to go with cluster of 5 25 K newtons as easier to construct than 1 large engine especially do to export control on some components

copenhagensuborbitals.com...

Give them a look, maybe send a few $ their way .........

originally posted by: Talaria
I thought the very same thing, WEF red flag all over this, thats why they won't allow outside help! a reply to: TheLyingCat

Oh jeez..for what purpose???

SMGDH

The CEO complained about how regulated the ship and sub building industry is, while at the same time saying that it's incredibly safe. Guy seems kind of insane.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I’m assuming odds of survival at this point are very slim. I bet that this is going to change a lot of policies in the sub mariners world too.

If things were in your face it wouldn't be a complex World we live in, many reasons why. Do some research and the answers will smack you in your face!!!!

reply to: vonclod

a reply to: Brotherman

They have less than a day of predicted breathing air left. The water is 31 degrees Fahrenheit at the Titanic depth. They have on regular clothing. It had electric heat but how long did that last?

Could anyone survive days in a freezer without proper clothing?

Not looking good at all.

Definitely sounds all experimental. There is stuff strewn all about under the shell, frame over the body. Who knows if anything is depth safe. Lines can squish, conduits can crush with electrical wires in them. Who knows what the buoyancy of this vessel is with 5 people let alone 2. There is almost 1000lbs of humans onboard. I don't know it sounds shady. You might as well strap yourself to a cannon ball.

I still don't understand why there's no ping on battery back up , Even if they lost power that ping should be going and easy to locate .

Lets say something went wrong with the O2 system and they all died There should be a location beacon ping ,

With all the money on board did someone pull a James Bond type of job and snatch it up ?