Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way

I imagine the top team would have noticed a large mass bubble come up if it had crushed. They probably had some other catastrophic failure and by the sound of it they had a huge list of possible failure/risk with this contraption and piss poor planning... The risk is not worth as demonstrated. They just bolt themselves into a oversize beer can, driven by a damn wifi game controller and off they went. I can't imagine the sheer terror the little one is going through. How do you rescue someone that is 1000 miles out at sea and 12.5k deep in dark freezing water?

a reply to: sean

At that deep, it never would have reached the surface. It would spread as it rose, and by the time it got up to the surface it would have spread out so far that it wouldn't even be a ripple.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: sean

At that deep, it never would have reached the surface. It would spread as it rose, and by the time it got up to the surface it would have spread out so far that it wouldn't even be a ripple.

Like a grain of sand on the beach.

They are sleeping with the fishes...

A CP-140 found a "white, rectangular object" floating on the surface. A ship that was going to investigate was diverted to check on the acoustic feedback heard from underwater.

a reply to: putnam6

Sounds like Giligan's Island.....

a reply to: Degradation33

Fox news just mentioned the sounds detected by the Canadian search equipment. They stated an official said that the area where the sounds were detected had already been searched and nothing found.

I don't know if this was referring to a surface search or a bottom search.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
Not sure if this was posted, but it’s pretty damming.

newrepublic.com...

Wow Zaph. Good work coming up with that, and yes, it is damming for sure.

This part: "Paying passengers wouldn’t know or be informed about Lochridge’s concerns, according to his complaints. They also wouldn’t be informed “that hazardous flammable materials were being used within the submersible.”"...

I wonder if the disclosure wavers they all signed would be valid, if the company withheld about the safety concerns that this fired engineer (safety engineer no less) had brought to light in the lawsuit. Certainly not more important than loss of loved ones, but if worse comes to worse, they could certainly be sued for a lot more than the $250k each paid to be in that coffin.

For some reason, I want to believe that we have the technology to find this submersible but to do so would probably mean outing some of our military secrets.

a reply to: CaliGirl69

Woods hole is where the Navy has Alvin, but presently it is in San Diego on an ocean mapping project.

If it was home, it sure would have been close and perhaps usefull.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: BernnieJGato

If they were skimping on NDI, and the test pieces were seeing splitting and damage under pressure, it's entirely possible that it survived several trips and damage built up over time.

This what I’m thinking, especially with the viewport being designed and certified to 1.3k meters, well above the desired depth. How that got final approval is beyond me especially when a safety inspector rejected it. Goes to show how money and ambition is a driven factor and overrides rational and safe decision making.

I’m leaning towards a catastrophic structural failure, not saying it was the port but 1.45 hrs into a dive and loss of contact tends to lean to that assertion.

They say eight hrs for dive and back up, how many hrs for the initial decent and what depth would they’ve been at 1.45 hrs?

a reply to: charlyv

Three C-17s flew from Buffalo to St. John’s today with the equipment for a deep sea submersible to assist with the underwater search. The Deep Energy is on scene and has an ROV down, but it has limited capabilities.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: charlyv

Three C-17s flew from Buffalo to St. John’s today with the equipment for a deep sea submersible to assist with the underwater search. The Deep Energy is on scene and has an ROV down, but it has limited capabilities.

Sadly, it can’t do anything to bring the sub to the surface. I understand that there is a pipe laying ship there which could possibly bring it to surface.🤷‍♂️

I think they’re on a recovery mission at best, unfortunately. I hope I’m wrong.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: charlyv

Three C-17s flew from Buffalo to St. John’s today with the equipment for a deep sea submersible to assist with the underwater search. The Deep Energy is on scene and has an ROV down, but it has limited capabilities.

Encouraging news! That other huge industrial ship that showed up may have a cable that could be secured to it, if it is found. Down to the wire for sure.

a reply to: mtnshredder

That’s the Deep Energy.

A faint bit of hope, but I honestly think it's going to take a miracle.

This is brutal if it's them, there aren't a lot of options unless they are stuck mid-ascent. Is there even a robotic drone submersible that could attach a cable or some other device? Doubtful cause at some point it would have to operate autonomously

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Underwater noises detected in area of search for sub that was heading to Titanic wreckage, Coast Guard says

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Underwater noises detected in area of search for sub that was heading to Titanic wreckage, Coast Guard says

Underwater noises have been detected in the area of the search for a sub that went missing while carrying five people to the wreckage of the Titanic, the U.S. Coast Guard says.

In a tweet just after midnight EDT, the Coast Guard said the noises were picked up by Canadian P-3 aircraft and as a result, underwater operations were relocated to try to locate the origin of the noises.

Those operations haven't turned up any results yet but the underwater operations are continuing, the Coast Guard said, adding that, "The data from the P-3 aircraft has been shared with our U.S. Navy experts for further analysis which will be considered in future search plans."

The submersible had less than 40 hours of breathable air left as of Tuesday evening, the Coast Guard said. It had about 96 hours of oxygen at most onboard when its dive began, officials said.

A Canadian research vessel lost contact with the vessel during a dive Sunday morning about 900 miles east of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and U.S. and Canadian authorities have been looking for it.

Yes, it's one thing to detect a noise, but tracking it down and hauling it up is a whole other deal. Sound travels faster and farther underwater so it could still be at great depth, they probably have not much more than a days worth of air..everyone cross your fingers.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
a reply to: putnam6

Actually "Raise the Titanic" was written using the level of technology that existed.

Dr. Seagram approaches Dirk Pitt and the National Underwater and Marine Agency and gives them the near impossible task of raising the Titanic. Using data from drop tank experiments Pitt is able to narrow down the search area and begin searching with deep sea submersibles. After finding a presentation model cornet that they can link positively to a member of the Titanic's band, Pitt and his colleagues know they are searching in the right place. After discovering that the Titanic is intact they set out on an audacious plan to patch all of the holes and then raise the wreck using compressed air.

Respectfully im a huge Cussler fan and have read the RTT many times

Do you really think the US or anybody else can patch up a ship the size of the Titanic and float her to New York based on 70s tech? It couldn't be done now. I don't think we can transfer the compressed whatever to anything at that depth.

The best I can tell is the world only has 2 submersibles that can go that deep even now, and none of them have the ability to weld up holes of any size much less raise a complete and whole Titanic, or even a section from shallow water much less where it lies now. IIRC in the book they needed 3 submersibles to weld everything shut and fill it with compressed air something thats never been done at that depth. Want the sub the CIA recovered at half that depth, and even broke apart while it was being recovered

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originally posted by: CaliGirl69
a reply to: putnam6

Sounds like Giligan's Island.....

Not sure I get the reference unless it's lost in a vast ocean part. Gilligan was breathing fresh air and drinking coconut milk. These 5 people are running out of oxygen

Honestly, they could know thier exact location and be able to communicate and at that depth, it will be almost impossible to rescue them ever not to mention in such a short window of time.