Germany's Next Topmodel

a reply to: Terpene

Ida is totally rocking it and Selma!

a reply to: SprocketUK

Really? In what romantic cloud is that true?
Doctors do harm all the time.
In medicine there's nothing without risks and consequences.
I'm not saying they shouldn't council.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: SprocketUK

Really? In what romantic cloud is that true?
Doctors do harm all the time.
In medicine there's nothing without risks and consequences.
I'm not saying they shouldn't council.

In general I meant, which is all you can do when you are talking about rules for the whole of society.
Yes we can all bring up Dr Mengelev or Dr Shipman it absolutely does not mean though that every doctor you meet will be evil or driven by some psychoisis especially when you get to the more specialised end of medicine like this.
I would still much rather trust a doctor on something like this than an untrained member of the public.

a reply to: SprocketUK

Yeah this is a beauty contest for women, not some physical competition.

I see a fundamental distinction between the two, you don't?

They all are full of plastic and natural won't win you these contests, I see no issue at all.
It's no apparent advantage over women, en contraire.

If they win, oh well, I'm just a man, I'll judge their bodys on one thought only....

a reply to: SprocketUK

I think it should be a process where everybody involved tries to find the best solution for the child.

a reply to: Terpene
I agree in this case, I dont think it can be used as a vehicle to further disenfranchise born women though

a reply to: Peeple
I never said that the parents couldnt be involved, I was opposing making such decisions without the involvement of a medical expert

a reply to: Terpene

Yeah this is a beauty contest for women, not some physical competition.

Beauty is very much a physical attribute though. One that is somewhat subjective and as the old saying goes “in the eyes of the beholder”
I used to find the super models of the nighties to be somewhat masculine and for me unattractive.

They all are full of plastic and natural won't win you these contests, I see no issue at all.

Hmm I see women that have natural beauty and then go and ruin it with puffed up ridiculous lips, slug like eyebrows and the dreaded Botox. It’s a shame that people buy into this marketing and so called enhancements.

I wish people could just learn to be comfortable in their own body’s, look after them with a healthy lifestyle and realise what you look like doesn’t define you. They would be so much happier.

a reply to: Peeple

You do you is what I live by, each adult is responsible for their own life, not me.

I don't like them pushing sh#t on kids though, that's where I draw a line.

You can decide to be a freak when you're 18 or age of majority in your country, by the law OR your parents want to sign off on it? That's also not my problem, I'm not the one that will have to deal with it, good or bad.

I disagree with the part where they keep secrets from parents and push agendas that they know the parent would disagree with, not cool.

a reply to: surfer_soul

I wish people could just learn to be comfortable in their own body’s, look after them with a healthy lifestyle and realise what you look like doesn’t define you. They would be so much happier.

Peer pressure is a bitch

a reply to: SprocketUK

it can be used as a vehicle to further disenfranchise born women

The franchise "born women" that's an interesting thought...

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: SprocketUK

it can be used as a vehicle to further disenfranchise born women

The franchise "born women" that's an interesting thought...

You know what I meant so why try and obfuscate?
Its stuff like that makes these sorts of discussions just plain awful.

I don't hate trans people, in fact I couldn't care less about their real or perceived identities. Nobody really cares except themselves.
But just the same I don't care how "lovely" is a man who pretends to be a woman, he's still a man. No matter how much he cuts off his body, even if there would remain only two cells clumped together they would be male cells.
All this insane new conceptualization and mumbo-jumbo around gender identities will not change this simple fact.

But for something so insignificantly small in numbers and influence we as a society have to change an awful lot of things.
At this point is not even about accepting them, we need to protect ourselves from them. We need to protect our children, our women, our language, our medicine, because they want it all. They insert little baby dolls in their anuses to pretend that they are pregnant, and cry on Tik-Tok about menstrual pains. Do I have the right to hate that at least? How far do we have to go with this insanity so they can feel good about themselves?

I don't hate trans people but I believe that at some point there will be a push back and they won't like it. Because most of us just had more than enough, and there is no end in sight.

How far are y'all actually willing to go, in the abuse of children?
It is abuse.
You may try to justify it, condone it, but it is child abuse.

The prefrontal cortex does not fully mature until the age 25 or so, in humans.

It's simple
Really.
Do You.
Be Happy.
Just leave the kids alone.

You can't though.
Most of you are activists. You glorify this and think is AWSOME because you actually do not care about the person.
You care about how YOU look in the eyes of your peers.
You care about how others think of YOU, it's like:
"LOOK AT MEEEEEE! I support mutilation in children! I am SOOOO woke!"

You are supporting the abuse of children.
Gender Dysphoria is real.
So is Grooming, by pushing an agenda, which is exactly why we see an uptick in cross dressing.
The advocate is responsible for this.
Are you proud? After all, it won't come back on you.
The children will and are paying the price for your "wokeness"
Congratulations, I am sure you impress your like minded, activist friends.

Do you.
Be happy.
Leave kids alone.

a reply to: Quadrivium

No. I want everybody to have the liberty to make their own choices. So they get a chance they actually can pursue their happiness.
Crossdressing is perfectly fine and acceptable.
The only one trying to force their narrow mindset on others is you.

All I am saying is people are people.

a reply to: WhiteHat

Why are you complaining society has to protect you from your kinks?

They insert little baby dolls in their anuses to pretend that they are pregnant, and cry on Tik-Tok about menstrual pains.

If that's what you're into, great. If not just don't watch it.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: WhiteHat

Why are you complaining society has to protect you from your kinks?

They insert little baby dolls in their anuses to pretend that they are pregnant, and cry on Tik-Tok about menstrual pains.

If that's what you're into, great. If not just don't watch it.

Why, isn't it lovely anymore, all this new normal? Shouldn't we all be aware of their big problems and hurdles as women? How is that different from turning a penis inside out and pretending that is a vagina? Isn't that what the sweet top model has under the hood?

a reply to: WhiteHat

I pick what want to spend my time with and that's really not even on the horizon.
What kinky # other people do is a lot less fun to me than what I like. So why would I bother?

Also if you're on tiktok... I don't know what to say to you, but you made your choice when you signed up...

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Quadrivium

No. I want everybody to have the liberty to make their own choices. So they get a chance they actually can pursue their happiness.
Crossdressing is perfectly fine and acceptable.
The only one trying to force their narrow mindset on others is you.

All I am saying is people are people.

I agree, People are people.
People can also be influenced, especially young people.
They can and are being groomed.
It is child abuse.
As I said, the prefrontal cortex is not fully developed until a human is 25 or so.

What is the prefrontal cortex?

The prefrontal cortex (PFC)—the most evolved brain region—subserves our highest-order cognitive abilities. However, it is also the brain region that is most sensitive to the detrimental effects of stress exposure. Even quite mild acute uncontrollable stress can cause a rapid and dramatic loss of prefrontal cognitive abilities, and more prolonged stress exposure causes architectural changes in prefrontal dendrites. Recent research has begun to reveal the intracellular signalling pathways that mediate the effects of stress on the PFC. This research has provided clues as to why genetic or environmental insults that disinhibit stress signalling pathways can lead to symptoms of profound prefrontal cortical dysfunction in mental illness.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...#:~:text=The%20prefrontal%20cortex%20(PFC)%20intelligently,brain%20regions%20(BOX%201).

What is happening now is child abuse.
Intentionally causing undue mental stress and confusion is child abuse.
It will affect kids the rest of their lives.
But yeah, as long as YOU feel better that's all that matters, am I right?

originally posted by: Quadrivium
How far are y'all actually willing to go, in the abuse of children?
It is abuse.
You may try to justify it, condone it, but it is child abuse.

The prefrontal cortex does not fully mature until the age 25 or so, in humans.

It's simple
Really.
Do You.
Be Happy.
Just leave the kids alone.

You can't though.
Most of you are activists. You glorify this and think is AWSOME because you actually do not care about the person.
You care about how YOU look in the eyes of your peers.
You care about how others think of YOU, it's like:
"LOOK AT MEEEEEE! I support mutilation in children! I am SOOOO woke!"

You are supporting the abuse of children.
Gender Dysphoria is real.
So is Grooming, by pushing an agenda, which is exactly why we see an uptick in cross dressing.
The advocate is responsible for this.
Are you proud? After all, it won't come back on you.
The children will and are paying the price for your "wokeness"
Congratulations, I am sure you impress your like minded, activist friends.

Do you.
Be happy.
Leave kids alone.

Clear as day isn't it. Unfortunately the activist are like this one.... look at the one in a million success stories.. we need more of these, we have to get them younger...

Why? What is their obsession with doing this to other people's children? Most kids would never think twice about this crap unless you hit them in grade school with it over and over and over again until they question their very existance.

a reply to: Quadrivium

It's so pathetic always with your: YOU lol, (I am laughing at you, just to avoid a misunderstanding)

Children themselves while growing discover all on their own at some point they have primary sexual organs, before they themselves have any 'real sexual concepts', which is something required to develop a sexual identity.
To inform them early that those who feel a little different are also accepted is not abuse.
Forcing your child to wear dresses, or be tough and never cry, or fit into YOUR(lol) concept of sexuality on the other hand is abuse.