Multiple Victims Reported in Texas Mall Mass Shooting

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JinMI

There is no logic to any of it.

They simply hate guns. These are the same people who advocate for doctor assisted suicide by the same means as we execute prisoners, but they will call that cruel and unusual punishment. They will also, at the very same time, lump suicide by firearm into statistics for gun violence even as they bravely tell everyone that we all have the right to end our own lives ... just not, apparently, by the means of our own firearms because that's "gun violence" and disgusting.

Its obvious and demonstrable with the attempts at logic.


"By saying you dont condone murder....you condone murder!"


Thia is the argument.

www.cnn.com...

While authorities have not determined a specific motive, the source said the deceased suspect was found with an insignia on his clothing that read “RWDS,” which authorities believe may stand for “Right Wing Death Squad.”

from above source from cnn,note the words MAY as in they havent ascertained motive yet nor posted an image of the patch . from trying to google it there isnt exactly a "single one" use some use a warhammer 40k meme format one is just RWDS in big red letters (that is from one of the proud boys) and then there are like 30 or 40 other variations ranging from lettering implying pinnochet did nothing wrong to other far less post able ones. i mean if were gonna just spit ball guesses with out evidence being show perhaps as a dodge charger driver his alleged patch stood for "rear wheel driving squad" ,they arent as notorious as mustangs for plowing into crowds but they are all mostly RWD

www.rollingstone.com... another article that mentions it also implies he was discharged from the army for "mental heath reasons" which i hadn't seen posted elsewhere

The man who shot multiple people at an Allen, Texas mall on Saturday, killing at least eight, served with the U.S. Army in 2008 and “was removed due to mental health concerns,” according to an FBI bulletin reviewed by Rolling Stone.

least that is what the FBI is claiming and they go farther to claim he was the following

Investigators believe the shooter was a neo-Nazi and incel, according to local and federal law enforcement emails.

now im just used to the idiot neo nazis from montana who are well white....so seeing hispanic neo nazis is somewhat new to me as it seems to go against the grain for a "white supremacist" but it seems the fbi wanted to toss out as many buzzwords as possible it goes on to allege he was part of a neo nazi group and apparently wanted to target women? then oddly continues to say of all things he never owned a passport which just stood out to me as kind of a weird thing to say? still cant find a photo of the patch anywhere

www.washingtonpost.com... wapost is the original source for the neo nazi claims but has this tidbit

Instead of limiting gun rights, Self said local governments need to be free to better defend public spaces from armed criminals. He called proposals to restrict gun rights, such as raising the age at which people can purchase AR-15-style weapons, “a knee-jerk reaction that does not stop criminals.”

guy was over 21 which is kind of what they wanted to do with there proposed law so that wouldnt have helped here, i honestly dont know if getting "booted from the military for mental health reasons " tends to restrict weapons rights i know being dishonorably discharged does but they didnt phrase it that way and as he had previously reported a weapon stolen and not raised any "RED FLAGS" with that statement and it happened in a "gun free area" in texas of all places. so i dont see any new laws being passed stopping this kind of thing least that would survive challenge with recent SCOTUS rulings soo.....

a reply to: RalagaNarHallas

So he is one of those white supremacist Hispanics like George Zimmerman.

Of course, the common denominator between transgenders and incels is men hating women. Maybe the white supremacist, neo-nazi thing is a red herring - there but not as relevant as the misogyny from being incel.

I bet at this rate if he has a manifesto, we get to see all of it.

originally posted by: maria_stardust
a reply to: ketsuko

Haters are gonna hate. That’s just what they do.

What does this have to do with guns and gun laws?

You're entire premise was built upon it.

Now it's just "haters."

Where's the logic?

a reply to: JinMI


Alex is All Over this Story NOW.........Cartels Involved .




tv.infowars.com...

a reply to: JinMI

SUV takes out 7

This happened in Brownsville, TX, this morning. No word yet if it was intentional or an accident, but it was just as nasty as what happened yesterday. So why no threads on it, and why no calls for common sense car control laws?

a reply to: ketsuko

Applicable?

twitter.com...

ETA:

Because we know its the persons fault when it's not a gun used.

Well unless you count that one christmas time when it was the "red SUV's" fault.........

a reply to: ketsuko

So he is one of those white supremacist Hispanics like George Zimmerman.

zimmerman might have been able to pass as a white Hispanic, but he wasn't. his grandmother and mother are Afro-Peruvian and his father german. his folks astarted a website and even did interviews stating that as a fact.

in the picture i mentioned in my first post and the video the OP linked later that fella with the dotted forehead laying on the ground damn sure looks full blooded native ( if that's the right word ) Hispanics to me.

then there's booking picture from dallas floating around people are claiming is the pos. and this fella damn sure looks Hispanic.



it's not a for sure id for me yet, would like to see something from the cops fbi before i say it's him.
but as a few others have mentioned, neo nazi's/ white supremacist aren't real fond of anybody but white people. if he was doing any facetime with any, they must not have not been real self respecting neo nazi's / white supremacists.

a reply to: SomeJackleg

Every story I've seen has mentioned that the family requested a translator.

Maybe the cops don't speak fluent redneck or something? But, I doubt that's the issue.

a reply to: ketsuko

Every story I've seen has mentioned that the family requested a translator.

that there is a fall back for many a hispanic, pretending not to habla inglés. knowing damn good and well they can.

a reply to: Mahogany

No you aren't. Nobody is carrying a full auto M4 or select fire AK legally and killing people so just stop with "I'm a gun owner" nonsense. Nobody assigns collective blame for murder and demands we all give up our privacy just to save lives. More people are killed every day by medical malpractice and car accidents than are with firearms on any given day.

There is a mental health crisis in this country playing out and people like you are calling it a gun crime crisis. A gun being unavailable would have made no difference when baseball bats, cars, trucks, knives and any other dangerous implement are available.

You and so many others like you are intellectually dishonest to the point of absurdity and are not remotely qualified to dictate how anyone who values freedom should live. Which is why so many of you soulless communists use your collective beta culture numbers to destroy the individual.

Please stop talking like you speak for the rest of us who actually do own firearms.

a reply to: SomeJackleg

My god... apparently the immigrants are now taking jobs from the white supremacists and are now doing the jobs those white Americans no longer want to do for fear of looking "racist".

This is what happens when your media is dishonest. When a very Hispanic looking guy whose family demands a translator is painted as a white supremacist, you realize that the agenda isn't really too hard to sort out.

I bet this guy is as white as I am a Chinese Fighter Pilot.

a reply to: Fairtrade141

If this guy is a “white supremacist” I'm moving to California and identifying as a “black male” to get in on those reparations…

When (if) the constitutionalists ever do wrestle back control of this country from these mentally ill progressive douche bags we need to do what the founders would have and eliminate anyone and everyone that has run this nation into the ground…

originally posted by: DBCowboy
We should immediately kill every active shooter.

2nd.

Well , where were all the conceal/open cary heroes of Texas in all of this ?
Texas is one giant gun toting State & I thought carrying guns deters crime ?

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: DBCowboy
We should immediately kill every active shooter.

2nd.

Well , where were all the conceal/open cary heroes of Texas in all of this ?
Texas is one giant gun toting State & I thought carrying guns deters crime ?

Well, apparently not in the "gun free zone".

I guess they were respecting the owners wishes of not being in the shooting gallery, I mean "gun free zone".

Why didn't the signs work?

a reply to: SirHardHarry

And if more guns was the solution, we'd be seeing less shootings. But we're seeing more. Imagine that.

Some 465 million firearms have been purchased in the US since the start of weapons manufacturing. And if you figure in a attrition rate for weapons no longer in use. They estimate there probably some 352 million left. Plenty of weapons out there.

At what point do we say. More guns isn't the solution?

a reply to: Moon68

Why didn't the signs work?

Cause POS's don't give a sh@@ about signs or laws. if the POS in Allen couldn't have got a firearm he'd might have just as well filled up his car ran over a bunch like that guy did in Brownsville.

if someone has set their mind to kill a bunch of people, their gonna figure out a way to try.

originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas

www.rollingstone.com... another article that mentions it also implies he was discharged from the army for "mental heath reasons" which i hadn't seen posted elsewhere

The man who shot multiple people at an Allen, Texas mall on Saturday, killing at least eight, served with the U.S. Army in 2008 and “was removed due to mental health concerns,” according to an FBI bulletin reviewed by Rolling Stone.

Question is if this was an honorable or dishonorable discharge. From what I read it seems to be on a case by case basis? If it was a dishonorable discharge then the Security Agencies should also be held liable I think. To be considered for a Texas security guard one must not have been dishonorably discharged from the military.

Most malls in Texas are "gun free" zones. Some go as far as stating that they have "gun sniffing dogs" inside..I can say I have NEVER seen any dogs in a specific mall and truthfully I am not sure that mall cops there would even be able to handle an "active shooter"

a reply to: BernnieJGato

And yet the left can't seem to figure out that it's the person you have to worry about, not the tool they decide to use.

If someone is dead set on killing people, they will do it any way they can find to do so.

a reply to: infolurker

This just does not pass the smell test. The guy was crazy. He got the guns from somewhere, maybe he had help from thos interested in creating division and wanting to have firearms banned. But an hispanic neo nazi? And I've read that nobody's been able to verify he felt that way, only anonymous sources. To me it sounds like this guy was helped along, had a background created for him that fits an agenda and was told to go to town.
Likewise the NY subway choking. A white guy chokes a black guy. The press should have been in a feeding frenzy over this but they held back, alomost like they were afraid to touch it. And the NY grandstander DA Bragg, he held back like he was afraid to make a move. The ex marine in that case, he's involved with someone or some group that has a hell of a lot of clout with the far left . I'll bet he walks. Of course now they've clamped down on the internet so its almost impossible to do any digging on anyhting they don't want you to know about.