Ankh Decoded

a reply to: Dalamax

Yeah, well some evidence is just too extraordinary to document and I think the OP has stated that through his repeated comments about not being able to find this kind of evidence on the internet.

Edit to add: I will add that it wouldn't be beyond the pale to say that the loop represents the sun, since most of us know that the ancient Egyptians worshipped the sun; and to be honest, I'm sure that a lot of what he's saying about plasma is probably true. But the claim that the sun has some kind of intelligence of it's own is like saying that plants are intelligent enough to know how to grow from a seed to a full bloom. Nature has patterns, but the sun didn't put that pattern into motion because of it's own intelligence. The Creator of the universe, God (with a capital "G") set the entire pattern into motion. All other gods are just spiritual entities trying to take credit for it.

If everything that is is God’s, but God is greater then the totality of everything, then what else is God’s?

a reply to: Deetermined

a reply to: Dalamax

Maybe I don't understand your question, but while God created everything, he still gave free will to his spiritual and human creations and allowed them free will to either accept him or reject Him.

originally posted by: The Mystical Spiral
Once
Again you are wrong
I can clear this up in one or two sentences!!!
In fact there's many words that are metaphorically and poetically being misunderstood, there's plenty of words for even comets or meteors. People think Chaldean was the first to have astronomy, Persian etc. But both these cultures stem from Ancient Vedic Aryan,

Link?

the word in Egyptian for Meteoric Metal is "Ba"

I didn't look far enough the other day -- turns out that there IS (sort of) a word for meteor, but it's the same one as thunderbolt: Seshed I believe it's New Kingdom; the dictionary I was using was Middle Kingdom (yes, the language changed over time.) It turns out that "meteoric iron" is 'bia-en-pet'.

"Ba" means soul - Budge cites multiple sources for this, including the Westcar Papyrus and the Book of the Underworld where the spirits of the deceased (shown in pictures) are clearly labeled 'ba'.

There are a large number of words for different types of metal ornaments (like bands for doors) and for metalworking (like pouring hot metal into a mold) - none of them are 'ba'.

If you have a scholarly source that supports your "ba as meteor iron", please link it.

Like when the Mittani king gives a meteoric blade of iron to Amenhotep III in the Amarna Letters which ended up being the famous Alien Dagger of King Tut his grandson.

Two points:
* that's not confirmed that it's the same dagger (likely, yes, but not 100%)
* it's written in Akkadian, not Egyptian. I haven't perused the Akkadian dictionaries, however I am skeptical that the Akkadians called meteoric iron "ba." If you find a dictionary entry that disproves this, please link it.

Byrd it seems like your goal is to just try and be a snooty know-it-all to other people's posts,in fact the way you matter of fact type it is acting like you're right and the post maker is wrong ! When in fact it seems like you're grabbing at straws and making very intelligent responses that waste time!!!!

I'm old. I know a lot of things. Feel free to ask me stuff. When I answer, I usually try to provide links so that people know I'm not just dreaming this up.

No word in Ancient Egypt for meteors , man you need to do some homework before you answer posts like you're an authority

Yup. Dictionary fail to the max here - I only referred to two of them and not all of the ones I own.

Odgen Goelet Jr. Of the Department of Near Eastern Studies and my old professor Judy King translate akh or ankh as " the intelligent radiant one "

By the way, you can email your old professor (or Goelet) and ask them if ankh means 'intelligent radiant one'. They'll tell you that this is the akh (not ankh) and the two aren't the same.

originally posted by: The Mystical Spiral
I've been giving you supporting material
Akh and Ba both are used for different meanings. Do you think encyclopedia brittanica knows what the true meaning on these are ?

Do I think that linguists and scholars, who have been studying, translating, and fighting about the language for over 200 years in conjunction with top experts on the Egyptian culture and art know what the true meaning of ankh is?

Yes.

You guys said there's no word for meteors, wrong.

Quite true. I didn't look far enough.

Where on the internet would they be able to provide the true meaning of this in documents?

(deep breath)
* "Ahkh" as "life" appears in the Book of the Dead (multiple times)
* title of Osiris (Lord of Life) - he's an underworld deity who grants everlasting life, not everlasting CME's.
* Rosetta stone (written in several languages), adding "given life, health, strength" after his long titles. This is a standard formula for pharaohs - right now I don't have time to look up when this phrase first appears, but "ankh" here means "life" and says so in Greek.
* part of the name "Aat of Life" of the necropolis of the 8th nome (so written in the necropolis)
* Coptic word (Aankh), which means life. Coptic is the last form of ancient Egyptian.
* Per Ankh - the House of Life (college of priests - note: this is Budge's description)
* the palace of Ramesses II in Thebes (Ankh Waset, and yes, spelled with the Ankh). Means "Life of Waset (Thebes)"
* papyrus "The Dialogue of a Man and His Soul" (sometimes given as "man tired of life," per Faulkner) where a man talks to his soul (ba) and ba and ankh appear throughout the text and do NOT mean iron and CME"s (one example is "departing life has made their names forgotten/writing alone has made them remembered." - direct quote.)
* Papyrus "The Tale of Two Brothers" - one brother brings the other back to life by pouring water over his heart. He does not bring his brother to CME by pouring water over his heart.
* Pyramid Text of Unas (direct quote) "when it was there, who ravished his evening meal when it was there,
who ravished the breath from his nose and brought to an end the period of his life." (spelled with an ankh)
* Pyramid Text spell 319 ("Those who were very angry turn round about him, those who were in Nwn transfer life to him.")

I can go on... and on... and on.

Since you asked, I only included the phrases that had direct links to Egyptian texts themselves and not things like "uhem ankh" (which is in there and means "water of life" but didn't have a source for this.)


So there's a set of them. Why don't you prove your point by finding the same sort of thing where "CME" is clearly meant in original texts?

originally posted by: Mike27

originally posted by: The Mystical Spiral
Love how you just glazed over I proved that there's words for meteors in Egypt past.
I have no time to do this with you .
You literally are typing into Google to get your responses. Byrd brain
a reply to: Byrd

I'm still waiting for an observation method, which you seem to gloss over every time ...

"Channeled from RA" Doesn't count. Remember the motto here is "DENY IGNORANCE"

I've been looking forward to seeing that as well. Were you going to get into the physics and optics and math on this one?

a reply to: Byrd

It's easy to make a simple solar observatory. Here's an example made from everyday garbage. I'm sure a creative ancient egyptian engineer could come up with something similar.



Now it is an exercise for The Mystical Spiral to find the mislabeled artifact(s).

The biggest part of having groundbreaking new information is that theres noone else out there with it!!! Maybe jealousy is still somewhere in those old bones , also to Mike as well. The dictionary is not going to have the true hidden meaning that Certain bloodlines went to war to protect. I am showing supporting evidence to prove what these ancient writings are really poetically, metaphorically describing. Which is very advanced Bacterial genetics, plasma physics, quantum physics and much more ...and way before modern man believed that the past even had microscopes. Which is a ridiculous flaw on our part. I use the royal sacred cubit measurement in my copper work in fact I worked at an aerospace company which I can't disclose which one on here , welding the containers and other objects that rockets either go in or are related to the rocket itself, we even use some of this knowledge in their construction. The ancient Egyptians were using the royal cubit in the construction of Pyramids and many cultures all over the world , I have been to Baalbek Lebanon, Malta ,Sardinia , Egypt , Italy , Thailand, Peru, Brasil , All over the USA and these ancient cultures were making red granite highly crystallized master worked sacred geometry archeoastronomy aligned structures on spots with incredible magnetic anomaly, and installing lodestone ( meteoric iron baitylos stones) at these sites and broadcasting/ recieving higher frequencies/ interfacing with the plasma rays of the sun literally a sacred network , even if you don't believe that, just take this . These cultures were making master Craftsmanship pyramids, dolmens, Obelisks, cairns, chambers, ziggurats, menhirs, walls, aqueducts, towers, grand tumulus mounds, etc etc with work and alignments better than man can do today, do you really think that the writings associated with these structures are the writings and symbols of some primitive race of savages and their primitive religious beliefs? It's is very advanced symbolism encoded with dualites and even sometimes tetrads of meanings in each symbol. Do you realize other times existed where technology was more clean , and in the harmonic flow of nature and much more advanced than right now? We are using an artificial intelligence replacement replication of true spiritual science or spiritual technology development so to say. Example :
Telepathic communication between humans ultimately has almost been completely eliminated and has been replaced with what has now evolved to what we call instant messaging, emails, snapchat, Skype, text messages, etc etc etc

Its looked at as We no longer need telepathic communication between the network of humans to really experience their emotions, feelings and true meanings . Words can be deceitful intent and that's more dangerous that just plain old intent lol. It takes a certain level of spiritual attainment, a spiritual humble ego, to be able to do this. It takes much work especially in a society with so many temptations to achieve the oneness with ourselves and nature to be able to hear the voice of the wind , understand the movement of birds and their voice, to be able to telepathically communicate. Why put in the work when you can just instant message your boss and call out sick , and ask Google all the questions you ever wanted to know , without any real substance behind the answers.

Going to the dictionary is not the answer for the true meanings . You can use all the definitions and translations in these dictionaries tho as stepping stones to the truth, each one is a very valuable stepping stone. Those that know me, know I got nothing off the internet for the most part when I reference someone or a writing it's coming from a physical book or copy I have un front of me from our family library. I have all the publications of the society of biblical archaeology, records of the past ,and so much more from Professor Muller and his Oriental writings to modern day translations of the Ugaritic writings by Nicolas Wyatt and so many others. You would think you'd want to become friends with me and share information I'd youre so knowledge and you k ow so much instead of trying to get into a useless pissing match, right from my opening post. Do you grt your kicks this way? I will no longer engage in your contest cuz trust me Byrd I got a big dumb Italian sausage that can piss pretty dam far sometimes, and somtimes it's so stupid it pisses just to hear itself piss lol
If you'd like to be allies and share information instead of trying to poke holes and prove that you're right and that you can one up me every time, I'm totally open to that. Otherwise pretty much everything you tried to come at me with was wrong anyway , especially the meteor thing , as soon as you said that I was like ok. This guy is just thumbing through dictionaries in Google and copy pasting his answers. Which you admitted to . In all honesty man I knew about the Ba thing and Baitylos stones when I was 13 . That's over 32 years ago . And you're over here trying to tell me the definitions of Ba, Akh and things like this. It's really laughablw from my end .
So if you wanna engage in a positive way and possibly learn something let's do it. If you already know everything and just want to show me how Im wrong than oh well I won't be even reading let alone responding in any way from here on out
reply to: Byrd

a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

honestly, i think this would a better fit in one of the following;
conspiracies in religions
origins and creationism
philosophy and metaphysics
people won't ask for as much supporting material.

philosophy and metaphysics might be the best.

originally posted by: The Mystical Spiral
The biggest part of having groundbreaking new information is that theres noone else out there with it!!! Maybe jealousy is still somewhere in those old bones , also to Mike as well. The dictionary is not going to have the true hidden meaning that Certain bloodlines went to war to protect. I am showing supporting evidence to prove what these ancient writings are really poetically, metaphorically describing. Which is very advanced Bacterial genetics, plasma physics, quantum physics and much more ...and way before modern man believed that the past even had microscopes. Which is a ridiculous flaw on our part. I use the royal sacred cubit measurement in my copper work in fact I worked at an aerospace company which I can't disclose which one on here , welding the containers and other objects that rockets either go in or are related to the rocket itself, we even use some of this knowledge in their construction. The ancient Egyptians were using the royal cubit in the construction of Pyramids and many cultures all over the world , I have been to Baalbek Lebanon, Malta ,Sardinia , Egypt , Italy , Thailand, Peru, Brasil , All over the USA and these ancient cultures were making red granite highly crystallized master worked sacred geometry archeoastronomy aligned structures on spots with incredible magnetic anomaly, and installing lodestone ( meteoric iron baitylos stones) at these sites and broadcasting/ recieving higher frequencies/ interfacing with the plasma rays of the sun literally a sacred network , even if you don't believe that, just take this . These cultures were making master Craftsmanship pyramids, dolmens, Obelisks, cairns, chambers, ziggurats, menhirs, walls, aqueducts, towers, grand tumulus mounds, etc etc with work and alignments better than man can do today, do you really think that the writings associated with these structures are the writings and symbols of some primitive race of savages and their primitive religious beliefs? It's is very advanced symbolism encoded with dualites and even sometimes tetrads of meanings in each symbol. Do you realize other times existed where technology was more clean , and in the harmonic flow of nature and much more advanced than right now? We are using an artificial intelligence replacement replication of true spiritual science or spiritual technology development so to say. Example :
Telepathic communication between humans ultimately has almost been completely eliminated and has been replaced with what has now evolved to what we call instant messaging, emails, snapchat, Skype, text messages, etc etc etc

Its looked at as We no longer need telepathic communication between the network of humans to really experience their emotions, feelings and true meanings . Words can be deceitful intent and that's more dangerous that just plain old intent lol. It takes a certain level of spiritual attainment, a spiritual humble ego, to be able to do this. It takes much work especially in a society with so many temptations to achieve the oneness with ourselves and nature to be able to hear the voice of the wind , understand the movement of birds and their voice, to be able to telepathically communicate. Why put in the work when you can just instant message your boss and call out sick , and ask Google all the questions you ever wanted to know , without any real substance behind the answers.

Going to the dictionary is not the answer for the true meanings . You can use all the definitions and translations in these dictionaries tho as stepping stones to the truth, each one is a very valuable stepping stone. Those that know me, know I got nothing off the internet for the most part when I reference someone or a writing it's coming from a physical book or copy I have un front of me from our family library. I have all the publications of the society of biblical archaeology, records of the past ,and so much more from Professor Muller and his Oriental writings to modern day translations of the Ugaritic writings by Nicolas Wyatt and so many others. You would think you'd want to become friends with me and share information I'd youre so knowledge and you k ow so much instead of trying to get into a useless pissing match, right from my opening post. Do you grt your kicks this way? I will no longer engage in your contest cuz trust me Byrd I got a big dumb Italian sausage that can piss pretty dam far sometimes, and somtimes it's so stupid it pisses just to hear itself piss lol
If you'd like to be allies and share information instead of trying to poke holes and prove that you're right and that you can one up me every time, I'm totally open to that. Otherwise pretty much everything you tried to come at me with was wrong anyway , especially the meteor thing , as soon as you said that I was like ok. This guy is just thumbing through dictionaries in Google and copy pasting his answers. Which you admitted to . In all honesty man I knew about the Ba thing and Baitylos stones when I was 13 . That's over 32 years ago . And you're over here trying to tell me the definitions of Ba, Akh and things like this. It's really laughablw from my end .
So if you wanna engage in a positive way and possibly learn something let's do it. If you already know everything and just want to show me how Im wrong than oh well I won't be even reading let alone responding in any way from here on out
reply to: Byrd

WOW, massive claims, with a really nice story, as an engineer, how about some good old evidence?
lets start with the tooling, and we can work our way up from there.

a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

takes much work especially in a society with so many temptations to achieve the oneness with ourselves and nature to be able to hear the voice of the wind , understand the movement of birds and their voice, to be able to telepathically communicate.

How can we learn to do these things? I mean, without being able to make these connections I don't see how those of us who don't own many books about ancient symbology and civilizations are supposed to find this knowledge without Google.

I think your getting the wrong idea about how valuable Byrd’s posts are. To people who are reading along, as although you authored this thread, it is not entirely about you.

He’s not pissing with you and although you are yet to provide any validation for your information, if your looking at physical documents you could take a photo.

He is however contending your information, usually invited by peeps who utilise the scientific method.

Try quoting text (as in paragraphs) and assigning a page number and author to the quoted text (a volume title would probably help as well) that explains what your trying to convince your readers of.

Who knows, perhaps a member here possesses the same text or can find it out of the net somewhere to verify your assertions.

This place doesn’t usually echo chamber well and assigning intentions to posters probably won’t sit well with more people then just myself.

As they say, the truth stands on its own merit.

a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

To be fair I’m fairly certain what has been shared by the OP so far could be found by searching our very own vaults here at ATS.

a reply to: Antimony

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The akh and Ankh


a reply to: Byrd

a reply to: The Mystical Spiral
paragraphs would be a huge leap in readability.

I dont think it is just me - but apart from big solid lumps of difficult to read text and links to other places which repeat what the OP has said but do not provide evidence. I don't think I have learnt anything except that there is a lot of sketchy info out there regarding the Ahnk.

A shame as I am really looking forward to seeing some evidence to back up the OP claims, which on the whole i want to agree with and seem to resonate some truth.

The themes discussed here have been touched upon by G Hancock / Bright Insight et al. Ancient tech sites...

MS is teasing us - the clarity of the info is not there.

I cant contribute much on a scholarly level. So I am waiting my turn as/if the evidence is presented.

Mt

They say for now the coordinate 29.9792458°N of the great pyramid has the same order of numbers like the speed of light in m/s, 299792458m/s.

originally posted by: Untun
They say for now the coordinate 29.9792458°N of the great pyramid has the same order of numbers like the speed of light in m/s, 299792458m/s.

The speed of light through what medium? It’s not a constant unfortunately.

Nvm. I see you refer to c

So in 1983 it was decided to choose the then best currently available value for the speed of light (2.99792458×108ms−1) to be the defined (exact) value of the speed of light and then use it to define the metre in terms of that exact speed of light and a time which could be found from measurements of frequency.

physics.stackexchange.com...

How, on Earth, did the pyramid builders define light through a vacuum to 8 decimal places?

IDK.

a reply to: Dalamax
so the ancient egyptians used the metric system? meters per second.

The meter is related to the royal (?) cubit, whether by design or coincidence, it’s the measuring that scrapes my chalkboard.

The Royal Egyptian Cubit is derived as π/6 meters and Euler-1 in feet. It is also the precise Arc length of 30° of Arc of a circle with 1 meter as its Radius….a 1 meter Pendulum swinging 30° of Arc will traverse precisely 0.523598 meters (1.718 feet in PRECISELY 1 Second of TIME). The Speed of Light/Cubit both share a unit value of 1/Second.

robertedwardgrant.com...
a reply to: Mike27