Ankh Decoded

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: 13Kiwi20qYes
a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

Ta am enjoying this. Like the crist cross can be folded into a cube is this a possibility also for the Ankh, but done differingly ?

"no, it can't be transformed into a cube."

Not that I really needed to venture beyond 3rd grade arts and crafts to solve the problem, but the reply doesn't really make sense in full context and is incorrect topologically. A single contiguous cross shape is no different than a sphere or cube under deformation. My limited study of topology has been in the past year, so I'm happy to be given correct information if this is not the case.

In any event, the poster was perfectly correct in the context of their understanding.

To an infrequent reader the responses in this thread make it appear that Ancient & Lost Civilizations could stand to open some windows now and then.

Was meaning any shape, not just cube and yes get the gist of your reply, simple three side foldings may give a piethagarine triangle and so many ways to come from, how would two work together or more, always felt a magnet energy with ankh also what musical instument could one produce and differing types n resonant patterns etc etc.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: 13Kiwi20qYes
a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

Ta am enjoying this. Like the crist cross can be folded into a cube is this a possibility also for the Ankh, but done differingly ?

I don't know if Mystical will be back, so let me give you the answer: it's "no, it can't be transformed into a cube."

So... how do I know?

It has to do with a branch of math related to geometry - a branch called "topology." And if you think math is strange, well... hold on to your hat because topology gets REALLY strange. I'm not going into the strange parts, but one of the things they ask is "how do you transform shapes?"

Let's take a coffee cup and ask "what's the simplest form? What's the most basic shape that you can have that makes a coffee cup?

Pause a second and think about it while I put in a bunch of spaces and then give the answer.

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It's a donut.

Surprised?

A coffee cup has the handle (the part with the hole) and the cup part (you make a dent in one wall of the donut.

The first 1 minute 30 seconds of this video shows you how a straw and a coffee cup are equivalent to a donut

The ankh has one hole and a shape on the side that you can think of as being pulled out of one side. So an ankh is (topologically) a donut.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

Not that I really needed to venture beyond 3rd grade arts and crafts to solve the problem, but the reply doesn't really make sense in full context and is incorrect topologically. A single contiguous cross shape is no different than a sphere or cube under deformation.

Exactly right - it's a sphere. But I was trying to give a better reason than "no, you can't do that unless you chop the ankh up and rearrange stuff." Hence the reason for mentioning the topology... you can't convert a doughnut into a sphere or a frying pan.

I used to do some papercraft (have you ever done any papercraft? Fun, but you've got to be good with scissors!) and the cross shape is what we always made cubes from.

originally posted by: 13Kiwi20qYes
Was meaning any shape, not just cube and yes get the gist of your reply, simple three side foldings may give a piethagarine triangle and so many ways to come from, how would two work together or more, always felt a magnet energy with ankh also what musical instument could one produce and differing types n resonant patterns etc etc.

The closest musical instrument they had that resembles the ankh is the sistrum which was used in all temples as a musical instrument. Although it's often associated with Hathor, Bast is usually pictured holding one (my favorite ofen while she's holding a basket of kittens

I also found this one of Bast to be a fascinating piece. She's holding the sistrum, carrying a basket of kittens, and in her left hand she holds an aegis - a broad collar topped with the portrait of a deity. (it's the weirdly long ears that caught my attention. I know of at least one other piece like this and wondered if they were from the same workshop.)

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: 13Kiwi20qYes
a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

Ta am enjoying this. Like the crist cross can be folded into a cube is this a possibility also for the Ankh, but done differingly ?

"no, it can't be transformed into a cube."

Good gravy!

Even that^ makes a sandle strap.

Why did you do that, Byrd. Now it's sandle straps all the way down.

a reply to: Byrd

Corpus Hermeticum isn't that old - it's around 300 AD or so. There's a lot of versions of it - the idea was very popular during the Middle Ages and the time of the alchemists. It was originally a set of 17 books on astrological topics - a popular reference for Issac Newton and alchemists. Some of it's pretty peculiar

It is considered to date maybe between 100 - 300 CE and thats pretty old. In essence it is something that spans thousands of years As I am sure you know based on the teachings of Hermes which based on the teachings of Thoth. In order to understand the what the Kemetics believed in we need to look at Greece mythology too.

It is also worth looking at the secret and veiled teachings (something probably out of remit for you) Which put further light on these teachings..

a reply to: Byrd

Second, there's no such thing as the "Lion's Gate" in ancient Egypt, though there's a Mycenaen (Greek) Lion's Gate. Egypt has a double lion god, the Aker, but they're not a gate. There is not lion at any gate of the Duat.

Yes ofcoruse there was. Use some perspective.. The most important time of the year for them was the helcal rising of sirius with the sun. That is the lions gate. The new year ceremony that started off with Sopdet. This occurred after a 70 day period of the missing star in which time the dead could not be buried. This is because the star was considered the home of the dead. It was shorly afterwards followed by the festival of thoth. / tehuti

Now the lions gate occurs on the 8/8 because the sun and Sirius line up on the horizon. This is identical to what the Egyptains where worshiping. It is the time when the sun and Sirius line up and the veil between this world and the other world is considered thin.

Now have a look at your God Aker and have a think about it..



What do you see here. Two lions.. I am sure you know the lion is a representation of the sun. (same as Leo) You are looking at two suns.. Between the sun gate you can see the star that carries the Ankh.. Bingo that is Sirius that take you to the land of the derad.

Now just to make sure we are on the same page... Aker considered the LION God that opened the earths GATE to allow the journey into the underworld. This is the same story i just shared above. Now if there is any remaining doubt bear in mind what i just shared about the Lions gate and the Egyptian new year. It happens when Sirius appears on the horizon with the sun... Aker is the God of the Horizon..

Inresting lions gate near Mount of Olives

a reply to: Byrd

The closest musical instrument they had that resembles the ankh is the sistrum which was used in all temples as a musical instrument. Although it's often associated with Hatho

Hathor is a later form of ISIS.. Hence the reason the temples are linked and so much shared symbolism between the two. A representation of eath and west. Set gives ISIS the head of a cow. The horns a reprentation of the electric currents from a celestial sphere again. Thats why Hathor has the cow head and ISIS not.

just like the ancient Chinese adage... When sirius has horns prepare for war.

a reply to: Byrd

NB: The ankh shape is apparently derived from the sandal strap of the gods (loop for the ankle, strap across the instep (the crossbar, and long strip between the toes.

Thats truly absurd...



Here is an image of man being made of the potter wheel and being given a sandal by the Gods.. Its the breath of life.Whats wrong with you. It looks to me like deliberate dispersion and more fool you for sharing it. You think Jesus was crucified on a giant sandal too.

a reply to: The Mystical Spiral



What do you think of the knot of ISIS and an Ankh with its arms down.. (tyet) The Ankh of the dead (symbolof ISIS)

a reply to: Byrd

* What evidence (other than "CMEs look like a narrow loop (rather than a circle) if you look at them from one angle" do you have for the Egyptians recognizing that there's CME's?

erm..

originally posted by: The Mystical Spiral
Like I said it could be a binary system always a possibility, our solar system imo may have been once a binary system over 4.5 billion years ago. Check out the Nemesis theory.
But to answer your question on what I feel it is, most likely they represent Double CME bursts. Massive coronal ankh loops somtimes come in pairs or In Successive bursts . Most likely this is the origins .

Great question by the way!!!
a reply to: Violater1

Gareth Samuel recently posted an amazing video explaining why we should consider the idea that our solar system is one of many stars in a giant electrical filament – one of two filaments twisting around each other in a giant Birkeland current. His theory and precise measurements explain the unusual proper motion of several stars including Sirius (which he says is a nearby neighbor in the opposite filament of our double helix Birkeland current but not a gravitationally bound binary companion to our sun) and also explains our period of precession, and even why there seem to be particularly bad extinction events every 26 million years.

Have a watch of this video.. it will help you understand the Electric universe theory relationship between sol and sirus. We are not in gravitational lock. But there is a lot of evidence that we have a very special relationship..

There is a great video.. Linked at the bottom of the page.. Soz youtube wont open for me to link atm.. will try again another time..

:-)

a reply to: purplemer

Nice nice Purple, lots of nails, n that little spider in above post is on the Nazca plains, ponder ponder.

DOOT day is somes new year still nowadays and imo through science , 13 moons will reappear within the human sighkey.

If the Ankh had hidden powers for the few, and or dangerous powers used bad choicely ( especialllly musicalllly or energy pointing ) that may still be on the quiet to this day, lol maybe.

a reply to: Byrd

Birkland currents and not just about earth physicists use them to talk about currents that run great distances..Now this is where stuff gets real interesting..


Here is the Djed and isis and nephthys (yes thats sirius a and sirius b) the mother goddess and the star of the dead.. the godess have similar attributes..light and dark. This is showing a relationship between all three.



But whats the Djed.. Well we all know its the backbone of Osiris. It represents stability.. But stability of what one may ask..



Above you can see the Djed in ceremony..Note the angel of the tilt.. The same as that of the earth.. Thats the stability.. The stability of our earth and our solar system, What causes this stability. It is caused by Birkland currents.. Electro magnetic currents. It is clearly demonstrated in the image below that the Djed has an electromagnetic attribute





This is what turns us through the zodiac signs and the big year.

a reply to: Byrd

Do I think that linguists and scholars, who have been studying, translating, and fighting about the language for over 200 years in conjunction with top experts on the Egyptian culture and art know what the true meaning of ankh is? Yes.

Nsh you dont have a dicky doo daa clue.. You know what an Ankh is.. Put the breath of life into clay.. You got ideas, Thats all,

a reply to: Untun

Like a window in stonehenge passing through sunlight on solstice the great pyramid has shafts aligning orion on a certain date back in time.

yes and one shaft still aligns as it always here. Thats because sirius follows our sun.


There is nothing new under the sun.. The story of Orion. (the three pryamids) The belt of the archer. The three crosses of the crucifixion. The three wise men. That point the way to the messianic star. Its all the same story.

Look at the lovely story in the bible about Jonh the baptist. The one that comes before jesus.. What was his idiosyncrasy. A big belt. The same story again. Orions belt that rises before the mother godess...

Nothing new under the sun



Whats on the cross.. Jesus of Nazair Of sirius) / Ishtar.. You or me. Its all the same. Only the names have been occulted to confuse the innocent.

a reply to: DaRAGE

Thats the stuff right there. Its a supressed science. Done to keep us confined within the matrix. The 12k cycle is infact a 24k cycle.

I think you would find this intresting..

The Research section includes a summary of our basic work investigating the mechanics of precession, describes some of the problems with current theory and gives data to show that solar system motion is a better explanation for the observable known as the precession of the equinox. If you move your mouse over the word “Research” you will find this work broken into five further sections entitled: Introduction, Evidence, Calculations, Finding It and Papers and Articles. We invite you to browse.

Goes through some interesting anomalies and offers observable proofs.. This is kept hidden from us..

a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

Remember these are not people. Asar, the origins of Osiris of course you realize stems from Ancient Vedic. Asar derived from the Vedic Asura .

What are they.. They are stories of the stars and universal phenoma.. But maybe they are stories about us too. The Gods might not just be out there.. They might be inside us too. Are you not the king / queen. Will you not die one day to be reborn in the other world. Are we not all on the cross sacrificed in this life..

Soz i just bombed yout thread.. Not even had time to address your OP yet.. Nice thread though

:-)

a reply to: Byrd

You know what a skeptical scholar I am, so do you have a link by astronomers to this motion. As far as any astronomy text I've located (so far) describes it, the wobble is caused by planets in the solar system and not any mysterious star (and not only that, but we've got oodles of pictures from outer space and they don't show a second sun.)

I got a lot of stuff on this.. I will send you some stuff when i get back on and share with you.. Soz for all the post bombs.. Take care and happy days

Byrd: NB: The ankh shape is apparently derived from the sandal strap of the gods (loop for the ankle, strap across the instep (the crossbar, and long strip between the toes.

puplemer: That's truly absurd.

That's right. The Gods are giving the freshly made man a sandal.

So that he can Go Forth.

How much more than that do you want? Than to be under the geas of Gods that have commanded you to Go Forth?

You need an engraved invitation? We can engrave some sandals for you if you like.

Get thee hence. Absurdly or otherwise.