Ankh Decoded

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: The Mystical Spiral
I'm not answering this Darko explained how he had to make an administrator. He is the owner of this site, why should he even have to explain every decision he makes. Does a owner have to explain why he hired or brought someone on to participate in the site ?
Mahogany

I'm confused. Have you been a member since Jan 29, 2002? Or when did you join?

Okay, once more from the top - the confusion results from ATS changing ownership and the fact that the new owners aren't doing things the way Simon and SkepticOverlord did. It appears that Spiral was intended to be a feature rather like Bill Marrs was but the new owners didn't take the time to prepare the members as Srpinger and co did.

Under former ATS, SO or or one of the top levels would have announced a new section with a new guest star, set up a Q&A thread (so the members could get to know the new person) and then turn them loose in their own section after a week or so. This way they were given a "pass" for the rule (which was instituted back when I was a Moderator/SuperModerator here) that nobody could post a link to their own website/things for sale until they'd been around for awhile (and then only post it in their signature). This rule was put into place to stop a flood of spam and greedy people.

It seems that over the years as the board has grown, the software has been sort of "kit bashed" together to repair problems instead of rewriting sections (because that's a huge pain and rather expensive to get a good programming team who can handle it) As a result, the new owners had a difficult time setting up new specialty accounts and resorted (as a temporary work-around) to using some old administrator accounts.

MysticSpiral was given one of those accounts, but wasn't filled in on the rules of the old ATS or the culture.

...and that's where we are today.

NOW...back to the topic.

What is the purpose of the Ankh?

It's best to think of it as a phrase, "giving life" (which is how it's used in hieroglyphic inscriptions, particularly ones involving the pharaoh.) Hieroglyphs are more than just decorative alphabets; individual signs can represent some complex things (there's something called Gardiner's Sign List that's a handy reference for most of the hieroglyphs (not all... but that's a topic for some other time.)

Does it matter which hand it's held in?

No. That's a matter of artistic style. Since it's a small object and the gods/rulers are usually shown with the ankh and something else in their hands, the artists put the small thing (ankh) in the hand where it's most easily seen.

If the image is of a person facing to the left, the ankh is in the right hand and vice-versa.

What is the difference in holding it by the cross member or by the loop?

Holding it by the loop is simply carrying it. Holding it by the "stem" means they're using it as sort of a wand (think a "fairy godmother wand" to make a magical gesture that shows they're giving the gift of life to someons.

In a few instances the pharaoh is shown in the "giving life" pose where they are "giving life" to a god. The hieroglyphs next to these poses say that the pharaoh is representing the people and offering their life force to "awaken" the god, thus showing that he's the legitimate ruler and not some sort of upstart who took over the throne. (mentioned here in this paper on kingship and Egypt - and many other places but I'm pretty sure you don't want to stumble through dozens of academic papers.)



I can go on (and on and on and on) about this stuff, but don't want to write out a full book. If you have specific questions, ask, and I'll link studies and artifacts and articles that relate to the answer.

originally posted by: Violater1
This figure has two Ankhs that are being held by the straight handle. Is this for a binary star group?

Your answer may provide additional information if our solar system has a binary star.

No, our solar system doesn't have a binary star nor do two ankhs show a binary star.

Egyptians were poor astronomers compared to the Babylonians (a topic for another time) - and didn't have telescopes, etc. For instance, the most important star to them, Sirius, is actually binary star but they clearly didn't know this. They called the star "Sopdet" (en.wikipedia.org...) but saw it as a single star.

If they'd known Sirius was binary, it would have been "Sopdet and her sister" or "Sopdet and her brother" (or husband, etc... making it a pair of gods rather than just one god.

originally posted by: Mike27
a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

still waiting for how they observed these solar flares.

From the sounds of things, the OP must believe that they received their knowledge from the ancient Egyptian god of the sun, Ra.

Since the OP says that he will be encouraging everyone here to "make their own journey through the spiral". It sounds like he will be introducing ancient mysticism and pagan practices that he thinks will bring this same knowledge to us, like it did the ancient Egyptians.

In essence, I have every reason to believe that the OP is a modern day mystic and worshiper of Ra.

Ra Egyptian God of the Sun: 9 Ways to Work With Him

otherworldlyoracle.com...

Surely a CME is more of a circular loop?
An ejection then pulled back in?

An ankh also has 3 points or the a capital ' T ' if you like.

Could an ankh mean a journey. You go, travel around and eventually return? Hence the shape?

Im wondering why its a capital ' T ' with a loop thats is not a circle

(capital T is just an example of the shape, easy way to describe it)

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Im wondering why its a capital ' T ' with a loop thats is not a circle

(capital T is just an example of the shape, easy way to describe it)

The "T" shape is probably no accident.

It probably symbolizes a "trinity" of pagan gods such as Amen, Ra, and Ptah.

a reply to: Byrd

What evidence (other than "CMEs look like a narrow loop (rather than a circle) if you look at them from one angle" do you have for the Egyptians recognizing that there's CME's? * The ankh is a loop that is narrow on the bottom and rounded on the top with a tail and a crossbar. CME's have multiple shapes, including

The Dogon consider themself direct descendants of the Kemetic Priesthood. This is something you may well disagree with. They share much in similiarity between in there cultures.. They believe a special relationship exists between our sun and the Sirius.. This may well be electrical in nature. Hence the plasma loop on the ankh . It is of interest that Birkland currents have been found to exist between the Sirius and our own sun.

Its of note that other cultures expressive shapes that are found in plasma science too. Most famous being the squatting man. Which i am sure you have come across.






it is possible that these may be descriptions of solar events and relationships..

a reply to: Byrd

The writing on the walls next to these depictions doesn't say anything about vibrations or consciousness (they didn't have a word for that kind of thing)

Corpus Hermeticum,,

Hermes the great tahuti.,.. lions gate.. messages from sirius

a reply to: Byrd

No, our solar system doesn't have a binary star nor do two ankhs show a binary star.

Our solar system spirtals in a fashion that is found when solar systems are in binary relationship. According to electric universe theory we spin with the same birkland currents as sirius on a 24k year cycle. The big year. Of note proceesional numbers are found in Egypt ( being the most important star to the Egpyitans.) Sirius moves at the same rate as the processsing stars and is considered by many cultures to be a better time keeper than our own sun. It was in the past even in western science considered to be the suns partner. That idea is echoed across many cultures and teachings..

Of note Freemasonary - the blazing star... The great shiva - rudra.. red star and orion.. ishstar...... the three prymaids.. the belt stars of orion.. and next to them the island of the jackel..The orignal name of the sphinx. The head has been recarved that is very evident and it was a jacket... the great Anubis.. The orignal morning star Jesus of Nazerath - nazeer.. Sirius.. same as the Turkish eye of Nasser.. all seeing eye.// SIlver star of the themaites.. i could go on.. you will see it if you want too

;-)

originally posted by: ozmaoz47
a reply to: The Mystical Spiral

There's nothing to docode. The ankh represents a sandal strap.

When is the last time you saw the sun giving out sandal straps..


King Akhenaten and his wife Nefertiti praying to the sun. So beatiful. Pharoes that considered them Gods from the first time zep tepi / golden age / eden.

a reply to: Byrd

The association of the ankh with sandals, although strong, is not 100%. This idea comes from studying the finest carvings of ankhs that were produced by the royal workshops

Dude that sounds like pure waffle.. You think the kemtics most sacred relic was a sandal strap..


What about the connection between Christianity and Kemetic teachings.. The cross is found across cultures in many different forms. The crossroads.niburi / Janus / Heqet / Jesus . Anubis.. all the crossing..




What do you think the connection between jesus.. - the orignal morning star - sirius and the ankh and the croixifcution.. Note how there where three crosses.. just like the three pryamids..

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Byrd

The writing on the walls next to these depictions doesn't say anything about vibrations or consciousness (they didn't have a word for that kind of thing)

Corpus Hermeticum,,

Hermes the great tahuti.,.. lions gate.. messages from sirius

- Google:

Hermeticism or Hermetism is a philosophical and religious system based on the purported teachings of Hermes Trismegistus (a Hellenistic conflation of the Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian god Thoth).

And Wiki:

wide array of early modern philosophies inspired by, on the one hand, Marsilio Ficino's (1433–1499) and Lodovico Lazzarelli's (1447–1500) translation of the Corpus Hermeticum, and on the other, by Paracelsus' (1494–1541) introduction of a new medical philosophy drawing upon the 'technical' Hermetica (i.e., astrological, alchemical, and magical Hermetica, such as the Emerald Tablet).[6]

The treatises were originally written between c. 100 and c. 300 CE

Somehow I don't think this goes all the way back to Egypt..

a reply to: Byrd

Like a window in stonehenge passing through sunlight on solstice the great pyramid has shafts aligning orion on a certain date back in time.

Either the Ankh is a symbol or a tool, maybe for praying or meditation like a Vajra. In the Bible it is written God does not allow tools for praying.

Edit: maybe it resembles both Eternity and ending. It's not a carved image of a thing found in nature like an animal or a person.

It's a gate, Life.

“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” Matthew 7:13-14.

“When two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.” Matthew 18;20

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Byrd
The Dogon consider themself direct descendants of the Kemetic Priesthood.

A few do - most don't, however.

They share much in similiarity between in there cultures.

Not really. Yes, websites claim this but if you start looking into things like language and t marriage practices and secret societies and the treatment of women, it's pretty clear that they're not even close.

They believe a special relationship exists between our sun and the Sirius.

While the Dogon might believe this, the Egyptians didn't. The Egyptians had her married to the constellation Orion and thought that their child was Mercury. She's not associated with Ra in any form - and during certain periods she was depicted as a man.

It is of interest that Birkland currents have been found to exist between the Sirius and our own sun.

I'm going to say that your source purely made that up based on a bad understanding of the Wikipedia article on Birkland currents - where "interplanetary magnetic fields" are mentioned. That means "between planets in the solar system" and not "between stars."

Magnetic fields and electrical currents don't extend that far (and if they did, the currents would be overwhelmed by loops from other stars that are much closer.)

Its of note that other cultures expressive shapes that are found in plasma science too. Most famous being the squatting man. Which i am sure you have come across.

I have indeed. However, having studied these myself I can see that they're cherry picking the evidence, showing you a single figure instead of the whole panel of art (some of their examples clearly have labia and in context with the whole panel of art, represent women.)

it is possible that these may be descriptions of solar events and relationships..

Nope. Look up the actual figures in context (all the art around them) and look up in general the rock art of the people involved.

Byrd unfortunately I see I will go nowhere with you unless we speak in video format. Typing won't do it. Glad you have all the answers , why would you even need to read my posts than

a reply to: Byrd

In fact this Solar system could have been a binary system over 4 billion years ago, you may have heard of the nemesis theory.
It may even reside somewhere within or outside the oort cloud the outer edges of your solar system.

In my work tho I would say that No they do not represent a binary system , they most likely represent double CME's massive CMEs come in pairs or in rapid successive bursts .


a reply to: Byrd

Like I said it could be a binary system always a possibility, our solar system imo may have been once a binary system over 4.5 billion years ago. Check out the Nemesis theory.
But to answer your question on what I feel it is, most likely they represent Double CME bursts. Massive coronal ankh loops somtimes come in pairs or In Successive bursts . Most likely this is the origins .

Great question by the way!!!
a reply to: Violater1

originally posted by: The Mystical Spiral
But to answer your question on what I feel it is, most likely they represent Double CME bursts. Massive coronal ankh loops somtimes come in pairs or In Successive bursts . Most likely this is the origins .

Great question by the way!!!
a reply to: Violater1

This is all great, and I'll get on board with some of these ideas if you can tell me how they observed the solar flares.

So far the only answer to my question is the information was somehow channeled from Ra himself. But I can't find any documents which would support it. I'll even take "mistranslated" hieroglyphs.

This all sounds like feel good new age stuff, that's great and all, but what does it have to do with ancient and lost civilizations?

Sorry for the bad critique, but I would like to see some actual material rather than vague claims ...

I'll help you with some material:

I think you are actually talking about solar prominences.
www.spaceweather.com...
scied.ucar.edu...
en.wikipedia.org...

They had lenses.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
www.ancient-wisdom.com...
link.springer.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

They had mirrors.
www.metmuseum.org...
www.metmuseum.org...
www.brooklynmuseum.org...

They had awesome tooling to make precise things.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

They were great carpenters;
link.springer.com...
villagecarpenter.blogspot.com...

So, with all the the bits I have shown above, they could construct a simple solar observatory to record the ankhs of the sun.
shop.sciencefirst.com...

Hope this helps ....

(BTW, you should fix your signature.)

originally posted by: The Mystical Spiral
Im learning as i go, this is why im asking questions
I just was trying to figure out the picture thing. All good. Listen I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes bu my status here. I'm working with Darko as a sponsor to help both improve the site and make it even more interesting than it already is. Darko does all the computer genius work and I'm here to share articles and interesting information.

a reply to: MykeNukem

But toe stepping is the best part jks. I’m glad your sticking with it dude, I think your star will wax, high and bright.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Byrd

What evidence (other than "CMEs look like a narrow loop (rather than a circle) if you look at them from one angle" do you have for the Egyptians recognizing that there's CME's? * The ankh is a loop that is narrow on the bottom and rounded on the top with a tail and a crossbar. CME's have multiple shapes, including

The Dogon consider themself direct descendants of the Kemetic Priesthood. This is something you may well disagree with. They share much in similiarity between in there cultures.. They believe a special relationship exists between our sun and the Sirius.. This may well be electrical in nature. Hence the plasma loop on the ankh . It is of interest that Birkland currents have been found to exist between the Sirius and our own sun.

Its of note that other cultures expressive shapes that are found in plasma science too. Most famous being the squatting man. Which i am sure you have come across.

it is possible that these may be descriptions of solar events and relationships..

I always end up thinking about the purple dawn of creation. Wondering if it’s possible the CME knowledge described in the OP was gained when the Earth was in a position relative to it’s star that made observing the stars discharges easier, or that the discharges were so awe inspiringly impressive that they commanded observation and recording.

The polar configuration of planets is a theory that I firmly adhere to, mainly because it is compelling and just makes sense (to me)