Montana Bill 235. Scientific Fact Bill

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: frogs453

I rather doubt many Rhodes scholars come from Montana.

Well, the guy who developed the pneumonia and chicken pox vaccination, a recent Nobel prize awarded and the researcher was from there, and another recently added to the National Science Board. So, not too shabby.

Columbus was an Italian that worked for Spain, and he illegally imigrated to the Americas to send money back home.

WHATS the FRACKING ISSSUE?

a reply to: neo96

Christopher Columbus was Portuguese.

WHATS the FRACKING ISSSUE?

Didn’t the Spanish come and slaughter natives first? Or was that the Portuguese?

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a reply to: Sookiechacha

What if that is all fake information presented in ways like we see fake information presented today as "genuine and real" ?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: neo96

Christopher Columbus was Portuguese.

WHATS the FRACKING ISSSUE?

Didn’t the Spanish come and slaughter natives first? Or was that the Portuguese?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Some History says he was Italian working for Spain not Portugal 😁

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Christopher Columbus was Portuguese.

Well you tell that little secret to Britannica.

Christopher Columbus, Italian Cristoforo Colombo, Spanish Cristóbal Colón, (born between August 26 and October 31?, 1451, Genoa [Italy]—died May 20, 1506, Valladolid, Spain), master navigator and admiral whose four transatlantic voyages (1492–93, 1493–96, 1498–1500, and 1502–04) opened the way for European exploration, exploitation, and colonization of the Americas.

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The Portugese turned him down because they thought he was a bad investment.

a reply to: neo96

An inconvenient truth...
Columbus was white, and was responsible for the enslavement of indigenous, non-white, First Nation People in the Americas and the Caribbean.

The North American trade of enslaved people began with the Spanish incursions into the Caribbean and Christopher Columbus’s practice of enslavement, as documented in his own journals. Every European nation that colonized North America forced enslaved Indigenous peoples to perform tasks such as construction, plantations, and mining on the North American continent and their outposts in the Caribbean and European cities. European colonizers of South America also enslaved Indigenous peoples as part of their colonization strategy.

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History is uncomfortable.

a reply to: frogs453

Ok, whatever. The real point is that the OP doesn't understand what a "scientific theory" is.

www.dictionary.com...

A scientific theory is a well-tested, broad explanation of a natural phenomenon.

"In everyday life, we often use the word theory to mean a hypothesis or educated guess, but a theory in the context of science is not simply a guess—it is an explanation based on extensive and repeated experimentation. And it’s not the job of theories to become facts—they use available facts to make sense of a broad concept.

Scientific theories explain some of the most familiar and complex phenomena. A few of the best-known scientific theories are the theory of gravity, the theory of evolution, and the theory of relativity."

So I rather doubt that this "bill" is going to have very much, if any, impact on what's taught in the schools in Montana. They'll simply work around it if they have to. They'll teach the scientific facts and then point out that the available "facts" are used to make up the theories, i.e., egg before chicken.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

An inconvenient truth...

More like convenient bull sh#

Before my time.

But as the topic was suppose to be about science and not history.

I'm out.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Actually there's no real proof Columbus even existed. Could be a standard fable created for "at the time" political and religious reasons. Not the first, not the last 😎

a reply to: neo96

But as the topic was suppose to be about science and not history.

It all comes down to "anti-woke" censorship. Whether it be CRT or Evolution, it makes the far right wingnuts uncomfortable.

a reply to: xuenchen

Actually there's no real proof Columbus even existed.

BS!

There's no proof Jesus Christ ever existed, yet, he was the basis for "The Doctrine of Discovery", The Papal Bull "Inter Caetera".

The Bull stated that any land not inhabited by Christians was available to be "discovered," claimed, and exploited by Christian rulers and declared that "the Catholic faith and the Christian religion be exalted and be everywhere increased and spread, that the health of souls be cared for and that barbarous nations be overthrown and brought to the faith itself." This "Doctrine of Discovery" became the basis of all European claims in the Americas as well as the foundation for the United States’ western expansion. In the US Supreme Court in the 1823 case Johnson v. McIntosh, Chief Justice John Marshall’s opinion in the unanimous decision held "that the principle of discovery gave European nations an absolute right to New World lands." In essence, American Indians had only a right of occupancy, which could be abolished.

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a reply to: Sookiechacha

butwhatabout Isabella I of Castile 😎

butwhatabout Julius Caesar 😎

a reply to: xuenchen

Do you have a point? If so, please make it.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen

Do you have a point? If so, please make it.

Yes.

What are the consequences if History being taught is false and inaccurate and exaggerated? 😁

a reply to: xuenchen

That's not a "point", it's a question.

What are the consequences if History being taught is false and inaccurate and exaggerated?

What does that question have to do with Julius Caesar or Isabella I of Castile.

What does prohibiting the teaching of history that makes kids feel uncomfortable have to do with accuracy and exaggeration?

As I pointed out previously, if you want to see the consequences of teaching false inaccurate and exaggerated history, they can be found in religious programming and the religious' fear of progress.



Again, if you have a point, please make it.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

🤣🤣🤣🫣

a reply to: xuenchen

So I'm right. You have no point. And, you have nothing to offer to the thread or its subject.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: xuenchen


Theory of relativity or gravity is "wild or nut opinions"?

No, but many different non-binary genders is. In my view, the law is to prevent such bogus claims as that and Climate Change killing our planet in 20 years you know that sort of thing.

a reply to: xuenchen

What are the consequences if History being taught is false and inaccurate and exaggerated? 😁

You'd have an entire generation of fracking morons thinking America was founded in 1619.