Who is Jesus to you?

Hero's journey

A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man.

A good read for all ages

a reply to: kwakakev

Jesus had a very simple message to the people and that was the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man and that by faith you can be a son of God. It was that simple and if his followers had adhered to that all the world would have accepted this belief. Unfortunately those who attempted to spread his message tried to implement first some of the Jewish religious beliefs and later many of the Mithraic rituals were incorporated.

If you would like to read about his life and teachings check out The Urantia Book. (www.urantia.org...)

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: iamthevirus

originally posted by: kwakakev

Jesus seams closer to Trinity in that story

Trinity is just a descriptor as no one can define The Source, God, Logos, Cosmos whatever one chooses to call it.

Trinity represents a feeling which can also only be described using a word "Love"

That's how God/Source/Cosmos feels, the words becomes manifest thru us, real-time, at all times.

So maybe the Cosmos/God/Source needs humans to experience nature in the same way the machines need humans to also.

Yes, the theme of love is upfront in that story as is 'hope'.

Love, that's a very curious word.

Love - Root Word Latin "Am"

Hebrew -
The word אֶהְיֶה‎ ('Ehyeh) is the first person singular imperfective form of הָיָה (hayah), 'to be', and owing to the peculiarities of Hebrew grammar means 'I am' and 'I will be'.

originally posted by: iamthevirus
Love, that's a very curious word.
Love - Root Word Latin "Am"

Hebrew -
The word אֶהְיֶה‎ ('Ehyeh) is the first person singular imperfective form of הָיָה (hayah), 'to be', and owing to the peculiarities of Hebrew grammar means 'I am' and 'I will be'.

Lol. The "Hebrew" language didn't show up until the middle ages, definitely not a place to look a root. Our languages developed from the Indo European language, which seems to have developed around 27,000 years ago in the area that today we know as Ukraine.

Google lies all the time, but in this case is right:

< We only have one word for love; from the proto-indo european root leubh– which meant “to care, desire.”>

From a spirituality point of you, love is the DESIRE of unification, the desire to rejoin the oneness that we come from. That's why we are always trying to find happiness outside of us, looking for a partner that completes us.

a reply to: ltrz2025

Love is easy, goes like this...



Got it? glad we have that settled then.

a reply to: iamthevirus

Well, you have good taste, I'll give you that...

a reply to: ltrz2025

- the completeness of Him who everywhere fills the universe with Himself.

Ephes 1:23

I doubt a human partner could complete another because both are seeking completeness and we all have our own paths to take.

originally posted by: quintessentone
I doubt a human partner could complete another because both are seeking completeness and we all have our own paths to take.

I never said it did. Just explained the reason, from spirituality, why our spirits seem to be drawn to find a partner. Then, if it works or not, that's a different issue. I don't thread much on absolutes. Maybe works for some, maybe not for others. Free will!

originally posted by: ltrz2025

originally posted by: quintessentone
I doubt a human partner could complete another because both are seeking completeness and we all have our own paths to take.

I never said it did. Just explained the reason, from spirituality, why our spirits seem to be drawn to find a partner. Then, if it works or not, that's a different issue. I don't thread much on absolutes. Maybe works for some, maybe not for others. Free will!

Well Buddha left his wife and family to take his individual path, priests and monks walk their paths alone, and Jesus, it is theorized, never took a wife but did unify himself with disciples but not for completeness but rather as students/teaching aides for the mission. Maybe from a spiritual and religious stance, for one to achieve completeness or oneness with their idea of the 'all' it takes one on a path of self-reflection, self-guidance and self-awareness from different goals and with different perceived outcomes.

a reply to: ltrz2025

Our modern language, all the words in our lexicon come from and pass through Ancient Greek, Hebrew and Latin.

Modern English isn't very old.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: ltrz2025

originally posted by: quintessentone
I doubt a human partner could complete another because both are seeking completeness and we all have our own paths to take.

I never said it did. Just explained the reason, from spirituality, why our spirits seem to be drawn to find a partner. Then, if it works or not, that's a different issue. I don't thread much on absolutes. Maybe works for some, maybe not for others. Free will!

Well Buddha left his wife and family to take his individual path, priests and monks walk their paths alone, and Jesus, it is theorized, never took a wife but did unify himself with disciples but not for completeness but rather as students/teaching aides for the mission. Maybe from a spiritual and religious stance, for one to achieve completeness or oneness with their idea of the 'all' it takes one on a path of self-reflection, self-guidance and self-reflection with different goals or perceived outcomes.

My answer to that would be that... experience life as you like. Your body should eventually die and your mind dissolve. You (the soul) will return to the oneness, it's inevitable. We come here to experience individuality. From oneness we come, and oneness await us.

Much love.

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: ltrz2025
Our modern language, all the words in our lexicon come from and pass through Ancient Greek, Hebrew and Latin.
Modern English isn't very old.

Our root language (including English) is Indo-European. Our root alphabet is Phoenician, which was born out of a deformation of Egyptian hieratic (hieroglyphs adapted for common and administrative use in Egypt). All that about Greek, Hebrew and Latin is very mainstream and superficial. Look it up, fascinating subject.

a reply to: ltrz2025

Well at least it can be said if one wants the root/etymology/origins of the meanings of the words we use everyday one is going to have to venture back further than say 400 years.

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: ltrz2025

Well at least it can be said if one wants the root/etymology/origins of the meanings of the words we use everyday one is going to have to venture back further than say 400 years.

In that case, you are looking for modern deformations of the words, and not their true root-origin. Fair enough. Then, what you call "Hebrew", which, as you probably read, there is no hard evidence to claim that there was such a language, is a type of Aramaic-Akkadian that was used across Mesopotamia, with some Phoenician influences. Latin was always spoken by very few people, just by the Tiber river, even during Rome's golden times. Greek is a branch of Indo European.

a reply to: ltrz2025

Another curiosity would be how roughly 5000 years ago, isolated by vast distances for the most part we all came to the same Rebus principal.

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: ltrz2025

Another curiosity would be how roughly 5000 years ago, isolated by vast distances for the most part we all came to the same Rebus principal.

Indeed, that's one of history's biggest questions. I think there are 3 possibilities:

1) All humans shared similar psychological structures at one specific time, so we all came up with the same symbols and meanings all over the world. Sort of a mass psychosis at planetary level in the stone age.

2) A particular group of culturized people (small one, because they left no DNA traces) traveled the entire word bringing language, myth and culture. A group of sages. This is a key part of the myths of the Aryans, the Atlanteans and the Hyperboreans.

3) Aliens came to earth and went around "delivering" these tools among different populations around the world, but with differences between them depending on the native population.


Then, some people believe it was "God". But, the way I understand God is that this one is busy creating planets and galaxies in the universe, not worried about what one particular species (humans) in one particular planet (earth) is doing.

a reply to: TINCOAL

Not offended but pretty sure the parts that describe all people apply to me.

a reply to: ltrz2025

So words are pictures... and sentences are moving pictures, like someone showing you an animation of a set of stacked cards.

Interesting how we communicate I'd say.

Jesus is a desert wizard from a fantasy story who started a cannibal cult that said "you should do magic to make stuff into my blood and flesh, you and your progeny should consume it once a week to show you're down with my wizarding ways."

I was raised Catholic by the way so I KNOW what I'm talking about.

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: ltrz2025

So words are pictures... and sentences are moving pictures, like someone showing you an animation of a set of stacked cards.

Interesting how we communicate I'd say.

Very interesting, science is trying to crack that up at the moment, but some researches indicate that what we call "consciousness", seems to be outside of our brains, kind of a collective invisible entity floating around us that encompasses us all. I tend to think that's the case. But, not confirmed.