You Either Keep Getting Your Booster Shots Or Admit You Were Wrong

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

That Reads As: you won't provide any source or link whatsoever to back up any of the claims you've made

In this thread I don't need to.

Because you can't.

For someone who drones on endless about numbers and "maths" I find it exceptionally ironic you are unable to provide even a general overview of these numbers. In fact here are all of the times you mentioned these game changing figures:

do the basis math

you need to do the math correctly

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons

basic arithmetic/math

You clearly don't have the slightest idea of the number of vaccines administered

Do the maths first before trying to debate

It is you that can't provide the numbers

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons.

Do the maths first before trying to debate.

Yes, you count correctly, 9 times. You make this such a central part of your entire argument yet you don't actually do the math.

Prove me wrong. Share your "maths."

a reply to: JBurns

You are not providing links but official narratives that have never been proven in the first place. Most have been debunked. Prevention of transmission and infection, saving granny, herd immunity, safety and effectiveness, etc.

originally posted by: JBurns

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

That Reads As: you won't provide any source or link whatsoever to back up any of the claims you've made

In this thread I don't need to.

Because you can't.

For someone who drones on endless about numbers and "maths" I find it exceptionally ironic you are unable to provide even a general overview of these numbers. In fact here are all of the times you mentioned these game changing figures:

do the basis math

you need to do the math correctly

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons

basic arithmetic/math

You clearly don't have the slightest idea of the number of vaccines administered

Do the maths first before trying to debate

It is you that can't provide the numbers

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons.

Do the maths first before trying to debate.

Yes, you count correctly, 9 times. You make this such a central part of your entire argument yet you don't actually do the math.

Prove me wrong. Share your "maths."

If you start using common sense you can come up with better numbers rather then arguing 13 million shots have been administered worldwide and on the basis of this to conclude vaccines are safe and effective.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Ok, and you can prove me wrong by providing even the slightest hint of what these numbers and game changing figures are.

You've provided no math. No figures. Nothing.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Then do it! Show us these numbers you keep claiming to have but suspiciously are unable to provide.

How hilariously ironic you are unable to provide even a general overview of this math you constantly speak of. In fact here are all of the times you mentioned these game changing figures without providing any of the promised math whatsoever.

do the basis math

you need to do the math correctly

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons

basic arithmetic/math

You clearly don't have the slightest idea of the number of vaccines administered

Do the maths first before trying to debate

It is you that can't provide the numbers

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons.

Do the maths first before trying to debate.

Yes, you count correctly, 9 times. You make this such a central part of your entire argument but have done no math! Presented no figures! They aren't secret information, if you have what you claim to have, you can provide it. Otherwise you are lying.

a reply to: JBurns

In addition you have claimed earlier that Covid was much more lethal in the past. The reality is that although the infection fatality rate is now lower, it was never that high as presented by the media. The IFR of SARS-CoV-2 had a global average value of around 0.15% before any medical interventions. Now probably the same as the flu or even lower.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Ok, and you can prove me wrong by providing even the slightest hint of what these numbers and game changing figures are.

You've provided no math. No figures. Nothing.

It's not 13 million doses worldwide.
Do a quick search and you will find the number of doses given.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Falsely attributing statements to me now eh? I specifically said thankfully COVID wasn't very dangerous. It has killed a lot more people than the flu, so definitely at least on part with that. Last I checked the Flu is nothing laugh about, it has quite a body count of its own.

Stop trying to change the subject. You won't weasel your way out of this one.

Do The Math

If you are too lazy to do the math

Show me the numbers

I will do it for you.

You've mentioned this panacea of arithmetic so many times tonight and yet will not provide any numbers at all. You don't have numbers to give. Prove me wrong. If you had numbers you would be shoving them in my face ad nauseum. I can only conclude you are in fact full of it and do not have any to provide.

Unless you care to disprove that assertion? And that's one I did actually make.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Then do it! Show us these numbers you keep claiming to have but suspiciously are unable to provide.

How hilariously ironic you are unable to provide even a general overview of this math you constantly speak of. In fact here are all of the times you mentioned these game changing figures without providing any of the promised math whatsoever.

do the basis math

you need to do the math correctly

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons

basic arithmetic/math

You clearly don't have the slightest idea of the number of vaccines administered

Do the maths first before trying to debate

It is you that can't provide the numbers

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons.

Do the maths first before trying to debate.

Yes, you count correctly, 9 times. You make this such a central part of your entire argument but have done no math! Presented no figures! They aren't secret information, if you have what you claim to have, you can provide it. Otherwise you are lying.

I don't need to provide you with anything. You are the one who needs not make arguments out of your head and create numbers that don't exist.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Good for you. Show me the numbers.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

do the basis math

you need to do the math correctly

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons

basic arithmetic/math

You clearly don't have the slightest idea of the number of vaccines administered

Do the maths first before trying to debate

It is you that can't provide the numbers

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons.

Do the maths first before trying to debate.

Mentions math 9 times.
Can't actually do the math.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Falsely attributing statements to me now eh? I specifically said thankfully COVID wasn't very dangerous. It has killed a lot more people than the flu, so definitely at least on part with that. Last I checked the Flu is nothing laugh about, it has quite a body count of its own.

Stop trying to change the subject. You won't weasel your way out of this one.

Do The Math

If you are too lazy to do the math

Show me the numbers

I will do it for you.

You've mentioned this panacea of arithmetic so many times tonight and yet will not provide any numbers at all. You don't have numbers to give. Prove me wrong. If you had numbers you would be shoving them in my face ad nauseum. I can only conclude you are in fact full of it and do not have any to provide.

Unless you care to disprove that assertion? And that's one I did actually make.

I have already pointed out to you how wrong your assertions are.

13 million doses worldwide is just hilarious

a reply to: Asmodeus3

How many doses given worldwide? Give me some numbers. You keep saying 13 million for some reason, you've already shown a propensity to latch on to inaccurate information.

Show me the numbers

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

do the basis math

you need to do the math correctly

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons

basic arithmetic/math

You clearly don't have the slightest idea of the number of vaccines administered

Do the maths first before trying to debate

It is you that can't provide the numbers

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons.

Do the maths first before trying to debate.

Mentions math 9 times.
Can't actually do the math.

Yes I will mention them quite a lot until you get the right ones with the click of a button.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

How many doses given worldwide? Give me some numbers. You keep saying 13 million for some reason, you've already shown a propensity to latch on to inaccurate information.

Show me the numbers

No. You said 13 million doses worldwide.
Not me.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have no business mentioning anything to anyone when you yourself don't have them.

If you did, why not just provide them?

You don't have them.

Yawn, already addressed.

You keep mentioning all this math you have. Show me. You're a liar you have nothing.



a reply to: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

EDIT: To be fair, it seems I misread "millions" instead of "billions"

Point duly conceded.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I already explained I had misspoke "millions" instead of "billions."

You realize that BILLIONS are more than MILLIONS yes? That means the total dead vs. total doses are far lower than they would be otherwise.... You are hurting your own claims here.

Do provide evidence if you have to prove your assertion that the mRNA products are safe and effective.

Much unlike you, I am objective.

edit on 2/17/2023 by JBurns because: (no reason given)

a reply to: JBurns

You said

For the last time, 13 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine has been given world wide.

And

Not my calculation, an actual number by actual credible sources which I've linked. Something you've failed to do even once.

You're pushing an agenda. Q-anon drivel.

I reject your 5.5 billion number. I haven't seen that from a credible source. Facebook doesn't count. Even if so, it only further proves my point.

Look at your arguments!

Go find the right answer.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

do the basis math

you need to do the math correctly

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons

basic arithmetic/math

You clearly don't have the slightest idea of the number of vaccines administered

Do the maths first before trying to debate

It is you that can't provide the numbers

You don't have the numbers and statistics to make comparisons.

Do the maths first before trying to debate.

I've asked you 7 times for these numbers...lets make it #8

Yet you still refuse to provide them.

You refuse to provide links, sources, quotes, and the reason is obvious. You can't source a photo from facebook in the same line as 6 .govs/.edu.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Very well, I will do the hard work. I know I would never take health advice from a person who can't be bothered to look up a source. This means all that "research" they talk about is really just checking out photos shared on facebook. Real..credible..

SOURCE: CDC, WHO, ECDC

US:

1st dose administered
269,332,266 (81.1%)

Total population
332,008,832

WORLD:

1st dose administered
5,544,044,326 (70.7%)

Total population
7,845,261,000

Despite your inability to produce any numbers, sources, facts or even a cogent argument, I've done the legwork here. Now put it all together using your superior maths.