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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: carewemust
LeBron also agreed with a Tweet that said, "The entire system of policing sees the Black body as a problem. No matter who pulls the trigger."
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: carewemust
LeBron also agreed with a Tweet that said, "The entire system of policing sees the Black body as a problem. No matter who pulls the trigger."
Far more innocent Blacks are killed by Black people, than are killed by Police.
And yes, as only 11% of the population, Black people commit more than "their fair share" of crimes, warranting greater police surveillance.
No debating either of LeBron's sentiments.
But don't let it be a black and a white one
'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin' out for the white cop
And yes, as only 11% of the population, Black people commit more than "their fair share" of crimes, warranting greater police surveillance.
originally posted by: SourGrapes
originally posted by: panoz77
originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: panoz77
What resisting did you see? All I saw was Tyre instinctively covering his face and head and the cops kept yelling about him "resisting ".
Tyre was instinctively resisting damage to his head. That's muscle memory NOT resistance.
Tyre (also instinctively) only ran AFTER they tazed him. He still had the tazers stuck in him. He ran for his life, probably hoping his mother would hear his screams.
First video, when Tyree was pulled from the car, he resisted all directions to get on the ground on his stomach. What in the first video makes you think that he wasn't resisting being cuffed? To quote Tyree "I didn't do anything,I just want to go home". Not saying that this justifies the excessive force in the second encounter, and I have no idea what he did to get pulled over in the first place, but assuming it was a valid traffic stop, he did not comply with LEOs commands, resisted and things escalated.
He was complying with several different orders being screamed at him. If you watch carefully, you'll see them drag him out of his car (no chance to comply) and cops were screaming different demands to him. How would YOU react to getting yanked from your car, on your way home from work, pepper sprayed, tazed, punched, all while different demands are being shouted from several different cops?
Edit to add: your "assumption" that it was a lawful stop is wrong.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: panoz77
First off, it wasn't a valid traffic stop. The police chief has come out and said the officers had no reason to pull Nichols over. Second, he was given 71 different commands by multiple people over the course of 13 minutes. It was impossible for him to comply with everything being shouted at him.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: carewemust
And yes, as only 11% of the population, Black people commit more than "their fair share" of crimes, warranting greater police surveillance.
Why do you think that is? Do you think that Black people are genetically more prone to criminal behavior and anti-social violence? Or, could it be a symptom of systemic racism and inequality? Maybe we do need to talk about Critical Race Theory!
originally posted by: panoz77
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: panoz77
First off, it wasn't a valid traffic stop. The police chief has come out and said the officers had no reason to pull Nichols over. Second, he was given 71 different commands by multiple people over the course of 13 minutes. It was impossible for him to comply with everything being shouted at him.
So assuming the traffic stop was not a valid stop, my actions would be the same. I'll comply and let my lawyer and courts sort it out, and then walk away with a large civil rights settlement. But I'm certainly not going to argue with LEOs and refuse to comply in the middle of a street on a traffic stop whether it's lawful or not, that leads to nothing good when dealing with any LEO.
originally posted by: beyondknowledge
originally posted by: panoz77
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: panoz77
First off, it wasn't a valid traffic stop. The police chief has come out and said the officers had no reason to pull Nichols over. Second, he was given 71 different commands by multiple people over the course of 13 minutes. It was impossible for him to comply with everything being shouted at him.
So assuming the traffic stop was not a valid stop, my actions would be the same. I'll comply and let my lawyer and courts sort it out, and then walk away with a large civil rights settlement. But I'm certainly not going to argue with LEOs and refuse to comply in the middle of a street on a traffic stop whether it's lawful or not, that leads to nothing good when dealing with any LEO.
Let's see you stay still when five guys are beating you. I don't think you can do it.
They could have subdued him and cuffed him in moments. They wanted to have fun beating someone instead
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: panoz77
that leads to nothing good when dealing with any LEO.
In other words, ACAB.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Sookiechacha
It's because the government destroyed the black family with LBJs Great Society. Ain't it grand?
As far as 'critical race theory' goes, that is the most racist thing against the POC to come along in over 50 years.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Sookiechacha
It's because the government destroyed the black family with LBJs Great Society. Ain't it grand?
LOL
Right, because before that, Black people were living the American Dream! /sarc
Thirty years ago we were all more colorblind than now.