Government wants to Ban Gas Stoves

It´s all about to have control about the people. Don´t forget, it´s only 7 years from now till we all are happy about owning nothing anymore. They cut us off all cheaper supply options they can´t use to control the masses. They make everything so expensive that most people can´t afford ownership anymore. No own houses, no own apartments, no own cars, no own nothing anymore to make us happy.

You still own a house? All these new rules "to save the climate" and all that BS will get so expensive that you soon will have to sell your house and property. And guess who will buy them? Those that have way, way too much money and with that way, way too much power. All that e-mobile BS "to save the climate" is to have control about people even in "their" cars. Think about maybe green and maybe red zones, your cars will just stop if you try to enter the "wrong", the red zone. Only one possibility of millions with those spyPhones on four wheels. Smart energy meter BS, streaming services, living for rent and so on and on and on, only first steps into our fantastic future of owning nothing anymore and being happy about it.

And, tbh, most people don´t recognize where we peasants all are heading in the oh so free world of the included, by WEF agents infiltrated former more or less free nations. They happily rent their cars now, for hours or days, instead of owning bicycles or mopeds they are happy about renting those e-scooter BS because everybody is too comfortable to walk a few meters on their own feet nowadays or to use a bicycle. They are happy about owning no vinyls, no CD´s, no Blue Rays or whatever, happy about renting what is available on demand. But what if there is an internet failure or whatever? Nobody cares about such things because they are all happy about how it is and where "we" are going.

"We" because those sheep that are happy about BS like this are the majority. Because they don´t think from here to next trash can as we say in Germany. Too stupid to p!ss a hole into snow. It´s easier for them to obey and swim with the brainwashed(by the MSM) masses, to think and do what "everybody else" thinks and does. Because the masses must always be right, especially if the MSM tells them that they are always right and everybody else is wrong. These freed from independent thinking people, the best Third Reich or better now Fourth Reich citizens drag us all into the abyss.

When i first read gas stoves i had those camping gas stoves in mind and thought: Who uses a gas stove if there are hobo stoves available or even easy to build by yourself, these stoves are usable with any type of material, from alcohol over Esbit to wood, coal, candles, you even could burn trash to heat whatever, water or food, if really necessary. Maybe that´s the way to go, if they want control over what we think and do and they have the right tools to control us(wrong opinion - no former money, now digital credits anymore, no electric energy, no travelling, no medical treatment, no job, no roof over your head etc, you name it), then we are forced to do everything to escape their control. Like burning whatever spends heat to do necessary things like cooking, instead of using their electrical energy/gas/oil. As one little step of course.

I know a few people who still heat with wood or coal, have the right stoves in their houses and apartments. If SHTF and "they" cut us off electrical energy, gas, oil or whatever, these people will just cut down the next best tree and will still not freeze or having to drink cold coffee or tea and to eat cold ravioli from tin cans. That´s why the came up here in Germany with that fine dust and save the climate BS to prevent people from owning houses, apartments with such stoves that make them more or less independent of the generosity of the "philantropists" and their wet dream of a NWO basing on their evil minds, evil money, evil power.

We have to face reality and to cheat them in the process, to disturb their evil plans wherever we can, with every measures still available for us. They cannot close every loophole, they are not gods and cannot conquer or eradicate, forbid the nature that constantly surrounds us. no matter how much they seem to still believe this and no matter how hard they try. Because at the end we are legion, they are few, no matter how hard their MSM tries to tell us that black is white, good is evil, darkness is light etc!

Cheers

a reply to: JAGStorm

what gets me is they are claiming that the stoves leak methane when not in use.

i have to disagree with that, if my stove or heater leaked i'd see it on my tank percentage gauge or smell it.
during the warmer months, which here in the panhandle of fl even in the wintr months the heater doesn't run that much.
60 gallons which registers 50% on the gauge lasts us 10 to 11 months depending on how much oven cooking we do, the oven uses as much as the heater does.

originally posted by: InwardDiver
a reply to: JAGStorm

Call me whatever, but I don't see the harm in this. The less we rely on fossil fuels the better. The initial steps are small then become larger and larger until our dependency has all but disappeared. I look forward to the day, hopefully in my lifetime, where most of our cars, appliances, and energy producers use methods that don't require fossil fuels.

Why do anti-fossil fuelers always, always forget about petrochemicals ? There are 6,000 or so products...plastic, clothing, medicines, etc. that require petrochemicals . Before throwing fossil fuels out the window maybe find some replacement technology ?

originally posted by: JAGStorm
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www.yahoo.com...

Government says gas stoves cause childhood asthma.

Federal agency considers ban on gas stoves following report linking them to childhood asthma A study released last week found gas stoves were the cause of 12.7% of childhood asthma cases in the United States.

There is one reason for this and one only, gas is harder to flip on and off, electric is easier to control people with.
During natural disasters often gas says on.

I don’t believe for one minute gas stoves have increase childhood asthma.
Most modern homes have vents anyways.

In places that use 100% gas stoves, why is it only being attributed to 12 percent of asthma cases?

I grew up in a gas run city, and it's all anybody had, so... If gas causes asthma, shouldn't it just cause asthma? Shouldn't we have a much higher than 12 percent occurrence?

This is the problem with statistics... Causation =/= Correlation. You know how many kids with asthma have a gas stove? I'm guessing 12%. What of 88% of kids who have asthma? They probably don't have a gas stove, so why do they have asthma?

a reply to: JAGStorm

I remember years ago, sometime in my past, a movement to get rid of gas stoves.

So, this is not new.

Didn't happen then -- doubt it will happen now.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

That could be true of a rational and competent govt.

But so far there is no evidence of that with the current US regime.

The SPR is almost completely depleted.
While we still have the capability to extract lots of oil and gas, our refining capacity has been intentionally choked off to miniscule levels.

The slipshod implementation of so many contradictory and self defeating policies leads me to believe that there is no coherent plan.

I see a Muppet figurehead being pulled in one direction while other entities and agencies are working for disparate interests.

The bloated bureaucracy is infiltrated and corrupted at every level by so many different players that we now have this clown show.

There is no plan.
No one knows what the other is doing.

Total chaos.

This is yet another case of democrat pseudo-science. They looked at 1,000 children with asthma and discovered that more than 80% of them lived in a home with a gas stove. Obviously, its the gas stove causing the asthma. To qualify as "real" pseudo-science you must now ignore all the other inconvenient coincidences and focus your blame on your chosen evil.

Noise. The EPA trying to find some justification for existence and a government that just enjoys stirring everyone up. Gas stoves are not going away... they are efficient (blue flame) and all great cooks rely on them. Not only that, but many people that lost their electricity in this and past winters were able to cook, have hot water and even emergency heat from the gas stoves they had.

What is going away, is this "leadership" in a short 2 years. If they ever get something like this passed, it will take more than 2 years to implement and we will just wipe it off the books once they are out the door.

With all the problems in this world, this is just plain stupid, as usual.

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: JAGStorm

Asthma?

Bullsh!t, look at Europe....
Ban on gas stoves for the sake of health my ass.

S&f.
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Bwahaha that was good man!

a reply to: conspiracytheoristIAM

I don't forget nor am I against fossil fuels. I'm a scientist and it's often on my mind. Progress is stepwise. If we wait for perfect solutions we'd rarely make progress. Fortunately, there are more than adequate solution for gas stoves. Eventually fossil fuels will have to be faded out. Either because we run out or because of other reasons.

Woods stoves banned in many locales.

They want to ban gas.

Electricity is expensive and in short supply.

It's clear what they want to accomplish. Total control forced submission to their every whim, regardless of whether it makes sense.

a reply to: SRPrime

In places that use 100% gas stoves, why is it only being attributed to 12 percent of asthma cases?

It’s an lie, that’s why.
Short of sitting at the stove and sniffing the ignition light I doubt there is any real harm.

I’ve said this before and I believe this is the case here,
The powers that be want to remove us from ANYTHING and everything that is Natural!
Fire, Water, Wind, Sun.

Think about it, although candles are around, battery operated candles are huge. Fake fire everywhere
Fire, one of the most natural, comforting, warming things for humans.

originally posted by: incoserv
Woods stoves banned in many locales.

They want to ban gas.

Electricity is expensive and in short supply.

It's clear what they want to accomplish. Total control forced submission to their every whim, regardless of whether it makes sense.

I've got two Jotul wood stoves and a propane cook stove that's 31 years old....I'll fire all up this afternoon maybe just for the hell of it.....

a reply to: JAGStorm

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Background: Gas stoves release respiratory irritants, such as nitrogen dioxide and other combustion by-products. Adults with asthma may be susceptible to the effects of gas stove exposure because of their underlying airway hyperresponsiveness, but this association has been difficult to establish.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Interesting...this is a bit of my local news:

Public to weigh in on Eugene ordinance banning natural gas in newly constructed low-rise homes.

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Not just gas stoves...but gas period. Thus far it's only in new construction but they have since amended it to include all residential and commercial new construction!

Climate activists with Fossil Free Eugene are planning to rally in support of the ordinance before the hearing. They said if the ordinance passes, it would be a win for not just combating climate change, but for public health as well.

Under the guise of public health and climate change...how funny!

a reply to: jerryznv

Yes, natural gas is a fossil fuel, but it is also far more environmentally friendly than electricity. Its chemical structure is quite different to coal, meaning its emissions are much lower.

www.australiangasnetworks.com.au...

a reply to: JAGStorm

Federal agency considers ban on gas stoves

We need to ban the FEDs!

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: jerryznv

Yes, natural gas is a fossil fuel, but it is also far more environmentally friendly than electricity. Its chemical structure is quite different to coal, meaning its emissions are much lower.

www.australiangasnetworks.com.au...

100% agree...I saw that earlier!

I worked in the coal mining industry for years and a coal fire power plant for a bit too...I know what goes into producing electricity from a coal power plant. Interestingly...there was also a huge gas industry in the "Dakotas" when I was a younger man working there...it was all coal, methane, and power everywhere...as a working man the money was great...there were jobs everywhere!

A lot of that has been shut down now...and it's sad...in Wyoming, South Dakota, North Dakota, and Western Montana...a lot of folks were put out of work (I was one of them). Drilling stopped, mining slowed to a crawl, fracking became non-existent, and folks started scraping to get by in what was once a booming economy.

a reply to: JAGStorm

We have a gas range.

So I guess I'm an outlaw now.

*flips off stupid government people*

a reply to: ketsuko -- regarding asthma, I've heard that people have gotten big improvements in breathing function by using a natural foods diet that includes a lot of fresh sprouted grains, (done at home) for a total duration of about 1-2 years. So there's that.

On coal stoves, which some in this thread ask about, I'd say "Don't go there" because coal contains the radioactive isotope thorium, which is not a friend of human lung tissue.

The most recent analysis I read on the gas stove pollution problem explains that gas stoves actually leak more gas when they are turned off than when they are on ... not good. The cause of that chronic natural gas leakage from gas stoves is evidently that underground natural gas lines are under a certain amount of pressurization in order to move the gas along those pipelines. Many of us cannot afford to switch out our functional gas stoves at this time, but consider at least always leaving "on" the extraction hood over your stove. If your kitchen only has a microwave above the stove, with a "fan" on the microwave base, be aware that any such fans extract zero kitchen air, they just scrub the stove air to remove a few (soot?) contaminants, which is nowhere near good enough for the total pollution problem created by natural gas releases in the kitchen. If you are a renter, you may be able to get the owner to at least install a genuine air extraction unit (a pipe) in the kitchen ceiling or outer wall. Also be aware that all other home gas appliances (think water heaters, forced air heating systems) are already required by building codes in most countries to be vented to the outside when those gas systems are installed in homes.

Our family has a butane-powered portable stove, with a single burner on top. If we use that stove, it's always placed outdoors.