Biological sex & gender identity

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: Annee

I haven't got any answers.
It's mainly whatabouterism and avoiding to answer.

The questions are clear:

1) What determines biological sex?
2) Can biological sex change?
3) What is a woman?
4) Is a transwoman a woman?

I post science studies -- you reject them.

What can I say?

You did post studies that are not related to the questions I have asked you.

When one asks a question it expects to get an answer if the other member knows the answer. If not that's fine. But you have avoided answering all the way and everyone can see this is where someone credibility is diminished.

If you can't answer these questions it's either because you don't know (which is fine), or because you don't want to answer as it doesn't suit your position.

I understand perfectly that you are stuck in OLD SCIENCE -- because you choose to be. You flat out reject transgender.

NEW SCIENCE -- brain scans show gender/sexuality is more fluid than the rigidity of OLD SCIENCE.

I choose not to be stuck. Science evolves.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: Annee

I haven't got any answers.
It's mainly whatabouterism and avoiding to answer.

The questions are clear:

1) What determines biological sex?
2) Can biological sex change?
3) What is a woman?
4) Is a transwoman a woman?

I post science studies -- you reject them.

What can I say?

You did post studies that are not related to the questions I have asked you.

When one asks a question it expects to get an answer if the other member knows the answer. If not that's fine. But you have avoided answering all the way and everyone can see this is where someone credibility is diminished.

If you can't answer these questions it's either because you don't know (which is fine), or because you don't want to answer as it doesn't suit your position.

I understand perfectly that you are stuck in OLD SCIENCE -- because you choose to be. You flat out reject transgender.

NEW SCIENCE -- brain scans show gender/sexuality if more fluid than the rigidity of OLD SCIENCE.

I choose not to be stuck. Science evolves.

Still you don't want to answer my questions as it seems. It's obvious you are in a difficult position.

I don't think that what determines biological sex it's old science. It's more of an absurd claim made by the left-wing activists and transgender ideologists.

a reply to: Annee

Yeah you're right, if i think hard enough i'm sure i can grow a uterus.

a reply to: Annee

Post a single scientific study from a biologist that claims biological sex can change. A single one, from a reputable scientific journal.

a reply to: Annee

Listen you complete moron, biology and psychology are two different fields of study.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

Listen you complete moron, biology and psychology are two different fields of study.

How is a brain scan psychology?

a reply to: Annee

In a few words gender identity is a construct that has its roots in new ideas related to the woke culture. They are at odds with everything we know in human biology.

The absurdity of this ideology is that a 'man' can end up getting pregnant or have cervical cancer after the definition of what a man is has been altered and it's now an abstract concept.

A biological woman can identify as a 'man' and live as a 'man'. Then she could get pregnant and later on in her life could also get cervical cancer. So according to this absurd ideology a man can now get pregnant and have cervical cancer.

a reply to: Annee

It's not, the interpretation of the data from the brain scan, analysed by a psychologist has NOTHING to do with biology.

The science ends once the psychologist takes over. Did the neuroscientist write the article, did a biologist? NO, a psychologist took the brain scan and used that data to write an article with no scientific basis. The brain scan did not show anything that you're claiming, nor did any biologist use the data from the scan to validate your complete and utter BS. Again, you can't separate psychology from physiology, either because you're too stupid, stubborn or ignorant to understand simple logic.

It's really, really simple to understand. You can't actually be that dumb or believe this crap so i have to assume you're trolling. There's many platforms you can go to validate yourself, such as facebook. They're full of idiots who can't think for themselves. Please take your ignorance there, the folk on this forum aren't buying this crap, nor will we suddenly suspend reality to appease a moron.

FOR ONE LAST TIME. BIOLOGICAL SEX IS DEFINED BY CHROMOSOMES. BRAIN CHEMISTRY AND BEHAVIOUR CAN NOT CHANGE THE CELLULAR MAKEUP OF A HUMAN BEING, NOR CAN IT CHANGE THEIR REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS.

You can think like a member of the opposite gender, maybe even your brain has chemicals and structures which more closely match the opposite gender but that doesn't make you somehow the OPPOSITE gender.

MEN PRODOCE SPERM CELLS
WOMEN PRODUCE EGG CELLS

There is no argument.

Goodbye.

I still think it's a natural phenomenon for genuine Transgnder cases, a form of selective evolution within a percentage of the populace, but the may it's being marketed and promoted to mentally ill teenagers as a "quick cure" for something that is most definitely dysphoria brought on by the natural changes that come with puberty.

It's not like teenagers have ever been wrong,jump to irrational conclusions or have an obessive flair for the dramatic or anything like that, right?

It's not Transgenderism people have a problem with, it's the flamboyant SELLING of it as a "Lifestyle Choice" to young, impressionable and mentally unstable individuals.

Like any other Fad, it will eventually die out.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

I wonder what would have happened to me if I was born in this time.

My prepubescent years, I was the biggest Tom Boy I knew. I had brothers. I played sports with the boys and was very competitive.

The thought of kissing a boy was yucky. Down right discussing.

Then something happened.

I think they called it hormones. But what if someone had convinced me I hated boys for a another reason.

I think for some kids, they are just going through a phase.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I never hated boys, ever. But I was still the biggest tomboy. Boys were the best! I wanted to hang out with them, do the things they did, be one of the guys, but I was still attracted to them. I found crushes irritating, infuriating because I was smart enough to know how much they'd ruin being one of the guys, but I couldn't help it. Still was attracted to guys; at the same time, I never, ever was attracted to girls, and that was driven home when one of my friends who was a girl *did* try to hit on me, and I was not one iota excited by that or turned on. I knew it wasn't me and wasn't what I ever wanted.

a reply to: ketsuko

You remind me of my baby Sister. She loved boys and were attracted to them, and they to her, from the time she drew her first breath.

Just goes to show you, we all develop in different ways, in different stages, at different times. Personally I think kids should be allowed to develop at their own pace and if we didn't live in such a over sexualized world, maybe we would not even be having this discussion.

I was the middle child between 2 brothers in an all-male neighborhood.

I am more comfortable around men than I am women.

But I never thought I was a boy. I never felt I was a boy.

I always knew I was a girl -- even though I preferred running with the boys.

My BRAIN told me I am a girl.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
I still think it's a natural phenomenon for genuine Transgnder cases, a form of selective evolution within a percentage of the populace, but the may it's being marketed and promoted to mentally ill teenagers as a "quick cure" for something that is most definitely dysphoria brought on by the natural changes that come with puberty.

It's not like teenagers have ever been wrong,jump to irrational conclusions or have an obessive flair for the dramatic or anything like that, right?

It's not Transgenderism people have a problem with, it's the flamboyant SELLING of it as a "Lifestyle Choice" to young, impressionable and mentally unstable individuals.

Like any other Fad, it will eventually die out.

YES.

Science does not know much about sexuality -- what causes attraction.

NEW science is showing sexuality is far more fluid than once thought.

BRAIN scans do show a difference between male, female, transgender brains.

Science evolves with new knowledge.

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Like you said -- there are some natural true cases of transgender.

I've gone through the ADHS/Autism phase. Just because the media & "know-it-alls" blow it up to sensationalism -- doesn't take away the reality of people dealing with these issues in real life.

Specialists are needed. Research is needed. But when you're only 1 % of the population -- funding is almost nil.

I've heard all the naysaying and negativity about ADHD/Autism -- while in real life trying to find credible doctors, counselors, psychologists, programs, etc.

If you are not personally affected/involved -- you're just running an ignorant mouth.

a reply to: Annee

Here dear take it from a transgender male that now is exposing the truth about what is going in America soo called transgender movement target, yes targeting children.

Retired Navy SEAL made famous after coming out as trans announces detransition: 'destroyed my life' A retired Navy SEAL who became famous nearly 10 years ago after coming out as transgender announced he is detransitioning and called on Americans to "wake up" about how transgender health services are hurting children. "Everything you see on CNN with my face, do not even believe a word of it," Chris Beck, formerly known as Kristin Beck, told conservative influencer Robby Starbuck in an interview published earlier this month. "Everything that happened to me for the last ten years destroyed my life. I destroyed my life. I'm not a victim. I did this to myself, but I had help."

Yep the new money-making scam, get them young, get them innocent and ruin these children lives forever, yep forever, nobody gives a crap about the damage done these children, because is about the money. At least Beck did it by choice as an adult, but the children are being manipulated to become mutilated humans before becoing adults.

Sorry Annee you are falling for the lies and in your obsession, you are contributing to the damage done to children in America.

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a reply to: Annee

If someone is brain dead or has severe learning disability to not even understand language, which sex are they?

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Annee

If someone is clinically brain dead which sex are they?

I got this one!

Whatever they identified as before brain death! Right?

a reply to: marg6043

Don't think I've ever agreed with you on anything (Well, there might have been that one time).

You seem very closed minded, rigid, and old fashion in what you consider acceptable IMO.

Humans just aren't that black and white.

a reply to: Annee

You know Annee I really do not get the agenda you are behind to, but is one thing for sure, children are being hurt all in the name of an ideology that have no scientific basis.

More and more people are coming now out that are warning America of the dangers of the agenda that sweeping America, now a day, children and teen think is a fad, but fads come and go and the harm is reversible, this time is not and the damage is for life.

Sorry Annee what you support and defend soo much is dangerous information with horrible repercussions. Listen to the real people that have been there and done that.

a reply to: jerryznv

What’s even more problematic is trying to assign sex to skeletal remains.