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a reply to: Asmodeus3

I didn't imply you can't have an opinion. Of course you can have an opinion.

Danke.

Your option however isn't a qualified one. It's motivated by personal beliefs and some sort of ideology. Clearly Dr Campbell is qualified enough and his videos are quite informing and analytic.

Also it is clear he isn't a crank.
He isn't here in this platform so I thought I would say something on his behalf.

What are my personal beliefs pray tell, since you claim to know my motivations?

Hate to break it to you but neither is Dr Campbell's opinion a qualified one, him not being an immunologist or virologist but a "retired Nurse Teacher and A and E nurse".

It's clear that you did not watch any of the two short videos i provided you with that outline the follies of the disinformation your man Campbell presents.

Might be best to do so before chiming up on the man's behalf.

On the last question you made I prefer not to answer. It doesn't matter anyway.

It mattered to you when you asked me. If you choose not to reciprocate that's up to you.

Ile just assume that you don't have pertinent qualifications, or dog in the fight, since you ""prefer not to say"" as to your own educational credentials or qualifications, same as about 99% as the rest of us.

Have a nice day.

fullfact.org...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Also it is clear he isn't a crank.
He isn't here in this platform so I thought I would say something on his behalf.

On the last question you made I prefer not to answer. It doesn't matter anyway.

He is extremely bias though, so call it what you want... He goes into extreme selection biases and with his knowledge he makes it sound good until someone else comes a long and shows you what makes his points BS.

Did you watch this video?

Your support of the vaccine has zero to do with science and 100% with you being an active trial participant.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I didn't imply you can't have an opinion. Of course you can have an opinion.

Danke.

Your option however isn't a qualified one. It's motivated by personal beliefs and some sort of ideology. Clearly Dr Campbell is qualified enough and his videos are quite informing and analytic.

Also it is clear he isn't a crank.
He isn't here in this platform so I thought I would say something on his behalf.

What are my personal beliefs pray tell, since you claim to know my motivations?

Hate to break it to you but neither is Dr Campbell's opinion a qualified one, him not being an immunologist or virologist.

It's clear that you did not watch any of the two short videos i provided you with that outline the follies of the disinformation your man Campbell presents.

On the last question you made I prefer not to answer. It doesn't matter anyway.

It mattered to you when you asked me if you choose not to reciprocate that's up to you.

Ile just assume that you don't have pertinent qualifications, or dog in the fight, since you ""prefer not to say"" as to your own educational credentials or qualifications, same as about 99% as the rest of us.

Have a nice day.

fullfact.org...

Fullfact isn't an arbiter of truth they are not reliable or credible. Most of us know it. I am saddened that you haven't come to this realisation yet. But there is time.

Those who accuse scientists of beings cranks, crackpots, charlatans, quacks and the rest, because they have argued against the Covid ideology are motivated ideologically and politically.
Vaccine ideology, left wing activism, personal beliefs, etc.

I asked you about qualifications as you seem to be attacking someone personally who is well qualified with a BSc in Biology, MSc in Health Science and PhD in teaching bioscience to nurses, as being a crank. He is not a crank. This is an unsubstantiated personal opinion. Nothing else.

You are making assumptions based on beliefs and misconceptions as well as misunderstandings. The fullfact link is just an admission of this.

I still prefer not to say about what I do and what my educational background is. You can believe whatever you want.

But one thing is certain. The view you have of Dr Campbell is just a personal opinion which is unqualified and motivated by beliefs and ideologies.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0


Your support of the vaccine has zero to do with science and 100% with you being an active trial participant.

What have I posted that is incorrect? This statement of yours is rich coming from the guy that posts that a 63 yearold male who has a heart attack is because of the vaccine he got 1.5 years earlier while not waiting for any data to support your opinion or looking at his lifestyle in anyway.

So now that we are 2 years and 13 billion doses given with a level of monitoring never seen before in the history of all other meds combine when are you suggesting these trials will be over?

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

But one thing is certain. The view you have of Dr Campbell is just a personal opinion which is unqualified and motivated by beliefs and ideologies.

The same can be said for you...

He doesn't hold up to peer review with his massive levels of selective biases. There is no need to call him either quack nor for you to try to push some appeal to authority fallacy. He is not a medical doctor or a scientist in anything for starters. He teaches nursing it seems, so what makes him an expert at some level higher than the actual real experts that debunk him?

I'm not here to personally debunk him. I just listen to both sides and lets the chips fall where they may where it seems you and others listen to just one side in your own selective biases.

a reply to: Xtrozero

October 11th...

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a reply to: Asmodeus3

Still not watched any of those two short videos that outline the problems associated with Dr Campbell's disinformation i see.

And your Mans not a qualified immunologist or virologist hence his opinion is about as valid as your local vet.

Also, you seem unable/unwilling to answer the questions others pose.

Have to wonder as to the reason why there.

Good luck with the daft diatribe all the same.

If you don't want to get vaccinated Asmodeus3 then don't get vaccinated, problem solved.

My dinner time now.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

But one thing is certain. The view you have of Dr Campbell is just a personal opinion which is unqualified and motivated by beliefs and ideologies.

The same can be said for you...

He doesn't hold up to peer review with his massive levels of selective biases. There is no need to call him either quack nor for you to try to push some appeal to authority fallacy. He is not a medical doctor or a scientist in anything for starters. He teaches nursing it seems, so what makes him an expert at some level higher than the actual real experts that debunk him?

I'm not here to personally debunk him. I just listen to both sides and lets the chips fall where they may where it seems you and others listen to just one side in your own selective biases.

I am not motivated ideologically and I don't call scientists or experts as quacks, charlatans, cranks or crackpots, if I don't agree with what they say. Scientists can obviously become disingenuous and put their career and interests above the public or National interest. Scientists can become dishonest and not fit for what they suppose to do. But that's something completely different and anyone can criticise them if they fail to to perform as they are expected.

If you see his background, as I posted earlier, he doesn't look like a crank. Among several qualifications, he had also a BSc in Biology, an MSc in Health Science, PhD in teaching bioscience to nurses as well a post-grad in pharmacology.

I am not appealing to authority. I merely asked someone else why did he think Campbell was a crank. The scenario is predictable. In our days it seems that anyone and mostly those with qualifications can call someone else who is much more qualified, a crack, a charlatan, etc.

Let's not expand this conversation.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Still not watched any of those two short videos that outline the problems associated with Dr Campbell's disinformation i see.

And your Mans not a qualified immunologist or virologist hence his opinion is about as valid as your local vet.

Also, you seem unable/unwilling to answer the questions others pose.

Have to wonder as to the reason why there.

Good luck with the daft diatribe all the same.

If you don't want to get vaccinated Asmodeus3 then don't get vaccinated, problem solved.

My dinner time now.

He doesn't need to be an immunologist. If that was true then nobody would have spoken out apart from immunologists.

You haven't posed any questions by the way.
Just personal attacks against Dr Campbell.

I have had asymptomatic Covid and the best possible vaccine I can get. So yes, I have been vaccinated but naturally.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I am motivated ideologically

No your not.

You won't even tell us what your credentials are ffs.

The information your beloved Dr Campbell's has presented has been debunked.

You would know that if you bothered to view the information i provided you with or read the full facts on the man.

fullfact.org...

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I am motivated ideologically

No your not.

You won't even tell us what your credentials are ffs.

The information your beloved Dr Campbell's has presented has been debunked.

You would know that if you bothered to view the information i provided you with or read the full facts on the man.

fullfact.org...

I am not motivated ideologically.

There is no debunking. Only in the minds of political activists and in online sites like the full fact.
Fullfact can't be taken seriously.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

He doesn't need to be an immunologist. If that was true then nobody would have spoken out apart from immunologists.

Bingo!

Guys not qualified to know what he's talking about, simple as that really.

Sure he turned out great Nurse's all the same back in his hay day.

You haven't posed any questions by the way.
Just personal attacks against Dr Campbell.

You need to learn to read better.

What are my personal beliefs pray tell, since you claim to know my motivations?

Out of the same too similar curiosity, what's your claim to fame, and what are your qualifications?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

He doesn't need to be an immunologist. If that was true then nobody would have spoken out apart from immunologists.

Bingo!

You haven't posed any questions by the way.
Just personal attacks against Dr Campbell.

You need to learn to read better.

What are my personal beliefs pray tell, since you claim to know my motivations?

Out of the same too similar curiosity, what's your claim to fame, and what are your qualifications?

The last I declined to answer as you know.
The first I have already answered. You are politically and ideologically motivated. Some sort of vaccine ideology, or left wing views, and philosophies that connect both areas.

Yes he can still talk about matters regardless of what you think.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I am not motivated ideologically.

Your the one that claims to know other people's motivations.

There is no debunking. Only in the minds of political activists and in online sites like the full fact.

There is if you actually choose to read the evidence and watch the videos, none of which you seem to be able to do.

Fullfact can't be taken seriously.

The same could be said about yourself given your refusal to answer questions, even though you seem quite happy to pose them to others.

And the same could be said about your debunked doctor.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

The last I declined to answer as you know.

So you wish to see mine but wont show me yours?

Have to wonder why that is or what you have to hide, or rather don't have.

The first I have already answered. You are politically and ideologically motivated.

So what are my political and ideological motivations pray tell since you claim to know?

Some sort of vaccine ideology, or left wing views, and philosophies that connect both areas.

Nope, not even close, but if you could tell us what those philosophies are that connect your fantasy that might be nice?

Yes he can still talk about matters regardless of what you think.

And in the minds of antivax lunatics and doom porn mongers im sure you are correct.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I am not motivated ideologically.

Your the one that claims to know other people's motivations.

There is no debunking. Only in the minds of political activists and in online sites like the full fact.

There is if you actually choose to read the evidence and watch the videos, none of which you seem to be able to do.

Fullfact can't be taken seriously.

The same could be said about yourself given your refusal to answer questions, even though you seem quite happy to pose them to others.

And the same could be said about your debunked doctor.

No you are wrong.
I am not the one who accuses others if I don't agree with them or call scientists quacks and charlatans.

There is no debunking by the way. Fullfact isn't a serious website and you should avoid citing them.

Yes I pose questions to others who seem to attack scientists for no reasons other than not agreeing with their personal beliefs and ideologies.
From the moment someone makes it personal against other who are more qualified then he/she looses the argument immediately.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

No you are wrong.

I disagree.

I am not the one who accuses others if I don't agree with them or call scientists quacks and charlatans.

And yet seem unable to divulge your own credentials. LoL

There is no debunking by the way. Fullfact isn't a serious website and you should avoid citing them.

You imagine old retired dudes that trained nurses who make YouTube vids for the kicks, hoots, and sad delusional kudos, should be taken seriously?

Yes I pose questions to others who seem to attack scientists for no reasons other than not agreeing with their personal beliefs and ideologies.
From the moment someone makes it personal against other who are more qualified then he/she looses the argument immediately.

Mate, you are that brainwashed, and place such stock in your YouTube quack that you refuse to watch a couple of short videos, from the very same platform, that clearly prove and illustrate why the information he presents is spurious as feck.

What more can be said really?

I know........bye'bye, pages deep now and your not worth feeding any longer.

Yes indeed, bye.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Excess mortality is too high. Retired dr John Campbell knows that too.
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: zandra

We've done this already?