“Those of You Who Think the Vaccine Kills People Can Use Me as a Test” - Bodybuilding Icon Dies

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm not an anti vaxer and as such I'm pretty much attacked for everything and anything I say here now lol.

I'm sure there was a time where your opinion one one thing was left at that topic but now I could comment on a thread about a TV show and someone would disagree with me because I'm not in the antivax gang.

I'm sure there used to be rules and standards about that kind of thing here back in the day.

What I find sad is many against the vaccine at an extreme level are very anti-liberal, but their tactics as you say above is as bad as what they complain about liberals doing. I'm labeled all kinds of things that if anyone of them actually read my posts and maybe remembered even small overviews of what I post about they would know I'm far from every label they put on me.

I'm sure it is the same for you and others...

originally posted by: Notabot12345666

Not according to Pfizer.

What does that have to do with the vaccine saving more people than it hurt?

It's also not the gotcha moment you want it to be. When they were released they were advertised as being able to attenuate symptoms. It wasn't until later that they figured out that they do in fact help with transmission.

originally posted by: Blaine91555

To be more on topic here, I think being both for vaccines and against forcing them on others is a common point of view. It's a -+ rational point of view.

This has been my point since day one of the vaccines. I have said dozen of times we needed to protect the old and high-risk while allowing everyone else to choose what they think is best for them. How is that statement wrong in any way? I also have said it is my opinion that people healthy and under 40 really do not need the vaccine since the virus is not much of anything to them and even low risks from the vaccine that we knew little about are still risks not needed. I never wanted schools closed, and I think masks were 90% liberal virtue signaling more than anything good. I have also said over and over that getting vaccinated makes zero sense in suggesting it prevents transmission outside to maybe less days that one is sick if vaccinated.

With all that said I have posted well over a year that in my two states of OR and WA 90% of those in hospitals were consistently unvacced.... So there is a big difference between the draconian the liberals went to with the whole control aspects of the pandemic and just what the vaccine really means to many.

a reply to: Xtrozero

The easy answer for why those who protect and defend these Covid jabs are almost militant and very sensitive to discussing it is because they were recruited as Vaccine soldiers even unwittingly to "carry the baton for the left's agenda" without identifying that way, nor would they ever acknowledge they did that, since they like to believe they are denying ignorance while disregarding evidence or new revelations no matter what or who the sources are, and at the same time insinuating it is others who are not denying ignorance.

They won't even acknowledge these jabs are experimental and get angry for being reminded of that, or just ignore and dismiss that as if it is irrelevant.

None of these behaviors have ever been seen before this decade that I can remember.

It's all part of effective mass formation psychosis.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Whole thread is full of 'Sea-Lioning" and 'Gish Gallop' by the usual.

Aarf aarf aarf.

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The vax was either a huge failure or a huge success.

Or, a huge failure which makes it a huge success.

Glad I'm a pureblood.

a reply to: MykeNukem

How dare you be proud of your superiority

I still have no regrets about not getting the vax.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0


Yeah it must of been the roids, that's why Arnold and Farigno and Stallone are still around.

Schwarzenegger had open heart surgery two years ago to replace a pulmonary valve, following a previous pulmonary valve replacement in 1997.

He is on his third now... You don't give an inch do you on anything that isn't 100% you BS.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

They won't even acknowledge these jabs are experimental and get angry for being reminded of that, or just ignore and dismiss that as if it is irrelevant.

None of these behaviors have ever been seen before this decade that I can remember.

It's all part of effective mass formation psychosis.

Well the right isn't much better in how far they push their points...Maybe we all need to come back to moderation just a little...

originally posted by: AutomateThis1v2

I still have no regrets about not getting the vax.

Great! Who cares... That is how it should be...

For some people, the vaccine does probably increase their ability to survive covid, but for the majority of people it has a possibility of doing some harm....it will actually kill or badly sicken about five percent of those people. Every medicine has risks associated to them...but this supposed vaccine has way too much risk associated with it for healthy people....it should not have been approved in my opinion.

If you have had a coronavirus or adenovirus cold within the year before this disease came out, you have some immunity against it unless you are on immunosuppressant meds or are real old....that would protect most people from getting a serious case of the virus. This vaccine promotion should have just targeted those at high risk...being just overweight is not much of an extra risk either unless the person is severely obese and can't hardly walk.

There are a lot of people on meds in this country that have increased risk because of the medical treatments they are taking or took that disrupt the immune systems proper activation either way. I know quite a few people over the last nine months that had their medicines changed by their doctors...coincidentally, the change actually lowered their risk of dying from covid 19...the majority of those people also had had a vaccine....another coincidence or did the doctors do more of the changes to those who got vaccinated to make the vaccine look better?

Don't know, just seems like there are a lot more co-incidents happening in the world of medicine these days if they got vaccinated.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0


Yeah it must of been the roids, that's why Arnold and Farigno and Stallone are still around.

Schwarzenegger had open heart surgery two years ago to replace a pulmonary valve, following a previous pulmonary valve replacement in 1997.

He is on his third now... You don't give an inch do you on anything that isn't 100% you BS.

So he died unexpectedly and he's 63?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

The latest on women's health from a gyno in Florida.If these figures persist god only knows what they will do to hide them. www.bitchute.com...

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
So he died unexpectedly and he's 63?

Yes? 63 year olds die unexpectedly every day. Roided up people who push their bodies to the limit die unexpectedly at much younger ages, "uNeXpEcTeDlY".

Don't forget that you blamed the vaccines for Bob Saget's head trauma lol.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

So he died unexpectedly and he's 63?

What does "unexpectedly" mean...lol Why do you post this crap when every time you do it like the next day and say VACCINE! You are not even playing into your 28 days or less here either...

originally posted by: rickymouse

Don't know, just seems like there are a lot more co-incidents happening in the world of medicine these days if they got vaccinated.

Are there really a lot more, or are just a lot more people posting?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

So he died unexpectedly and he's 63?

What does "unexpectedly" mean...lol Why do you post this crap when every time you do it like the next day and say VACCINE! You are not even playing into your 28 days or less here either...

It means he did HiS oWn ReSeArCh.

Only problem is.

According to all the "expert" anti-vaxxers predictions, the numbers of deaths should be so high by now, we would all be going to a few Funerals a week. Which we clearly are not.

And I, as a mortician, would not have time to be on ATS posting this.

The fact is, anti-vaxxers are so desperate now they spend all their time looking for the odd death that stands out to discuss and gossip about.

Sorry to say, you all got scammed by professional scare-mongers. They did it back over a decade ago to parents of young girls, it worked so it was as simple as a copy / paste campaign with some minor changes. ( spot the quotes and similarities and dozens of experts supporting what time proved was a scare-scam )

www.agreenroadjournal.com...


a reply to: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: LordAhriman

It means he did HiS oWn ReSeArCh.

Lots of picking and choosing towards a predetermined narrative...

If young men were never tested in mass before the pandemic for heart inflammation then we only know of the serious cases with actual numbers of the much less serious cases would have ALL gone unnoticed. Today people are looking at everything in great detail that was really never looked at before, so yes there will be a noticeable increase in everything... geez

This is from the Mayo clinic long before the vaccine...

Sudden cardiac death in seemingly healthy people under age 35 is rare. It's more common in males than in females.
Estimates vary, but some reports suggest that about 1 in 50,000 to 1 in 80,000 young athletes die of sudden cardiac death each year.

Israel said this last year...

Mevorach tells Science he and his colleagues identified 110 myocarditis cases among 5 million people in Israel who had received two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine in the month before their diagnosis. That translates to about one in 50,000 vaccine recipients, a number that isn't concerning given the background rate of myocarditis in the general population, where it is typically triggered by viral or bacterial infections, including COVID-19.

So as we move forward could the vaccine increase the chance of myocarditis in young males, sure... Is it killing 1000s, 10,000s, millions no... They said the vast majority was minor and even with 2 deaths out of 5 million people other issues can not be ruled out.

We also know about 4000 people die from Aspirin in America each year, so YES drugs do have serious side effects that most will not get anything at all, but some may even die. So here we are, a 63 yearold bodybuilder dies with a lifetime use of many other drugs, but non of that matters... No report on his preexisting conditions or even cause of death, and none of it matters still since we all know the vaccine he took 1.5 years ago is what killed him...lol

originally posted by: thedeadtruth
Only problem is.

According to all the "expert" anti-vaxxers predictions, the numbers of deaths should be so high by now, we would all be going to a few Funerals a week. Which we clearly are not.

And I, as a mortician, would not have time to be on ATS posting this.

The fact is, anti-vaxxers are so desperate now they spend all their time looking for the odd death that stands out to discuss and gossip about.

Sorry to say, you all got scammed by professional scare-mongers. They did it back over a decade ago to parents of young girls, it worked so it was as simple as a copy / paste campaign with some minor changes. ( spot the quotes and similarities and dozens of experts supporting what time proved was a scare-scam )

www.agreenroadjournal.com...


a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Numbers are inflated while other numbers are ignored in their efforts to push their narratives. As you say the numbers are just not there and here we are coming up on 2 years with like 20 billion doses given... Now their narratives are shifting to you just do not know what the vaccine will do to you 5 years down the road. We also saw this with the HUGE attack on all GMO food in the narrative was that it would change you at some subatomic level... All smoke and mirrors when there really is very little to support.

This is not saying there are zero risks, and this is not saying the Goverment was not dead wrong in mandating the vaccine along with so many other mandates, but people should focus on the right areas...

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: nonspecific
I've been dying since the day I was born matey.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Only a year and a half after the tweet as well!

Spooky.

Yes, 1.5 years is way past the duration to know if long term effects will occur even though that's normally 10 to 15 years. Yes, you might be a ticking time bomb also.

Keep holding on to that cognitive dissonance.

Well said in this case!