Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 3

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

BBC News - Ukraine war: Putin says no more massive strike - for now

translation,
putin says russia is broke and can not afford to replace, repair or buy new equipment and armament to continue sustained attacks.

AMERICANS...keep this in mind as your government keeps shoveling money to Zelenskyy (Ukraine).

Another big $$$ approval for Ukraine as Americans suffer Inflation: gettr.com...

Plus, Pentagon's official position is that MIL families should go on welfare to meet rising living expenses.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: yuppa

An invasion of a country by another country is not a Civil War.

It's a war.

It started out as a civil war between Ukes and seperatist. I know its not a civil war NOW though.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: FlyingFox

Ukraine is doing so well, they deployed 1000 AQ/Daesh fighters at $1000 a month

Do you honestly believe the most passionate, extremist Islamic terrorists are prepared to fight for what they perceive to be a Jewish regime?

You mean Neo-Nazis. So, yes it makes perfect sense.

a reply to: FlyingFox

Largest donor to The Clinton Foundation?
What has that got to do with Islamic terrorists allegedly fighting for a Jew?

Is there any actual EVIDENCE to even suggest this is true?

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Imhere

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Imhere

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Imhere

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Imhere
If Russia actually has ran “out of missiles” as some in here are suggesting,

Then Biden needs to stop sending multi Billion packages and military aid over there.

Zelensky needs to drop the beggars bowl then.

Has Russia left Ukraine yet?

Has Ukraine come to the table, and agree to stop it’s Nationalists harassing and tormenting the massive ethnic Russian population in the East and south?

Had russia stopped funding and supporting the internal conflict that in no way justified the Russian invasion to begin with?

What did the other side do past years, to grant security for the massive ethnic Russian population there?

It’s not just Russia.

Go check out Ukrainian Reddit and see the wide consensus wanting/pushing any ethnic Russian kicked out of the East and South.

This didn’t just happen this year either.

Explain to me again what it’s got to do with Russia?

It’s on their border? And the massive ethnic Russian population there asked for aid and help?

What does it have to do with Biden sending billions over there then, much less from abroad.

It’s a civil war and something the UN should had worked on then. And in reality the former leader of ukraine started that mess when he fled on purpose to destabilize and re claim his power. The pro russians,should be bought out and deported to russia since they like it so much. Ukrains should pull imminent domain and pay them for the land,then get them out after.

Past decades, and in recent times, there’s been civil wars. In many countries.

Civil wars are civil wars, only when it’s deemed fit for certain countries and across the pond.

UN?

Also, recently

Ukrainian MP Offers to Recognize the Independence of Kosovo

MP from "European Solidarity" Oleksii Honcharenko suggests that Ukraine should recognize the independence of Kosovo, registering a bill.

"Ukraine must recognize the independence of Kosovo. I have registered a corresponding bill to the Verkhovna Rada," the MP said.

You can’t make this up lol.

So, the current Ukrainian MP wants to support the extremist Muslim terrorist cells in Kosovo that was/is connected to Al qaeda, (99’ Serbia bombing, 9/11 happened shortly after)

There’s a lot of good people in Ukraine. Shame they don’t know where’s up down. East or west.

Getting played like a fiddle on the world stage.

For the current regime in Ukraine, it’s clear though

15 October Update

Key Takeaways

* Russia is conducting forced deportation of Ukrainians that likely amount to a deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign in addition to apparent violations of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

* Prominent Russian milbloggers who yesterday announced the existence of “hit lists” reportedly originating with the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and targeting milbloggers for their coverage of operations in Ukraine walked back their claim on October 15.

* The Wagner Group Private Military Company is likely continuing efforts to assert its supremacy over the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and more conventional Russian ground forces.

* Russia may have signed a new contract with Iran for the supply of Arash-2 drones.

* Russian forces continued counterattacks west of Kreminna.

* Russian milbloggers widely discussed the likelihood of a Ukrainian counteroffensive on Kreminna and Svatove.

* Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian troops launched a general counteroffensive in northern Kherson Oblast.

* Russian forces continued ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.

* Ukrainian forces likely struck Russian military assets situated along Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) in Zaporizhia Oblast and southern Donetsk Oblast.

* Mobilized Russian forces engaged in a fratricidal altercation at a training ground in Belgorod Oblast.

* Russian and occupation administration officials continued to enact restrictions on movement and conduct strict law enforcement activities in Russian-occupied territories.

More at URL above.

Cheers

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: FlyingFox

Largest donor to The Clinton Foundation?
What has that got to do with Islamic terrorists allegedly fighting for a Jew?

Is there any actual EVIDENCE to even suggest this is true?

Instead of asking for evidence. Brush up on the timeline.

Google it.

Get out of the hamster wheel and sit down.

Evidence is widely available within an second in the search.

PM for @Xcathdra

Cheers

a reply to: Imhere

So, you've got no EVIDENCE then?

originally posted by: Imhere

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: FlyingFox

Largest donor to The Clinton Foundation?
What has that got to do with Islamic terrorists allegedly fighting for a Jew?

Is there any actual EVIDENCE to even suggest this is true?

Instead of asking for evidence. Brush up on the timeline.

Google it.

Get out of the hamster wheel and sit down.

Evidence is widely available within an second in the search.

I got evidence you are bad at grammar and syntax, in a second or so. Also getting out of the hamster wheel one cannot just sit down, they may become dizzy.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Imhere

So, you've got no EVIDENCE then?

Who ever starred this Freeborn’s post LOL!

Freeborn, the Clinton administration bombed Serbia in 99’ while supporting Muslim extremist cells in Kosovo.

Google. It.

I can’t type the timeline or Google search for you. Nor should I.

My post above is the Ukrainian MP… official declaration recently supporting such fractions in response to current event in Ukraine.

Which is a complete contradiction

The Russian position in Kherson has reportedly weakened enough to where some western officials believe Kherson could be liberated within the week. If Ukraine's offensive continues down the river bank, they could take or cut off the oft-targeted crossings at Nova Kakhovka and both Antonivksiy bridges long before entering the city of Kherson itself. Their capture with the Russians still in Kherson would indicate a massive encirclement.

Here

Cheers

Gunmen have killed 11 people in an attack at a Russian military training ground on Saturday.

During a firearms training session, two men opened fire on a group who had volunteered to fight in Ukraine, state-owned news agency Ria reported.

The attackers were from a former Soviet republic, the Russian defence ministry said, but did not give further details.

They were also shot dead during the incident in the Belgorod region of Russia, which borders Ukraine.

A further 15 people were wounded.

Are the natives are getting restless?

Cheers

a reply to: Imhere

One Ukrainian MP?

The Clinton Foundation and Serbia in 1999?
Relevance to Islamic terrorists fighting for an alleged Jewish regime against a Russian invasion in 2022?

Any EVIDENCE of the latter?

As for googling things; the onus is on the person making the claim or belief etc to provide the EVIDENCE.

originally posted by: Imhere
Freeborn, the Clinton administration bombed Serbia in 99’ while supporting Muslim extremist cells in Kosovo.

Lost the point how this is relevant to the discussion.

However, the bombing of Serbia (er, you mean the bombing of the Republic of Yugoslavia), by Clinton (er, you mean by NATO) was to stop the ethnic cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo. It was a humanitarian intervention. It worked, and led to UN Peacekeepers being deployed and the ending of the Kosovo War. Several leaders and henchmen from the Republic of Yugoslavia ending up in The Hague for the crimes against humanity which they had presided over.

Now, of course, if you are a person who reads a lot of Russian propaganda and revisionism, then everything to do with Yugoslavia will be distorted.

How does this link into the Russian invasion of Ukraine, I hear you ask? Well, I don't know. Unless we are talking about NATO intervention to impose peace and remove Russia from Ukraine. Chance would be a fine thing, but I somehow doubt that would happen. Although, no doubt that some Russians will end up being hunted for war crimes, as happened in Yugoslavia.

2 members of a group of volunteers training at a firing range in Belgorod region of Russia have turned their weapons on their fellow recruits killing 11 and injuring 15 , the attackers were from a former Soviet republic according to the Russian defence ministry , they were also killed.

"During a firearms training session with individuals who voluntarily expressed a desire to participate in the special military operation [against Ukraine], the terrorists opened fire with small arms on the personnel of the unit," Ria cited a defence ministry statement as saying.

"As a result of the shooting, 11 people were fatally wounded. Another 15 people with wounds of varying severity were taken to a medical facility," it said.
www.bbc.co.uk...

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Imhere
Freeborn, the Clinton administration bombed Serbia in 99’ while supporting Muslim extremist cells in Kosovo.

Lost the point how this is relevant to the discussion.

However, the bombing of Serbia (er, you mean the bombing of the Republic of Yugoslavia), by Clinton (er, you mean by NATO) was to stop the ethnic cleansing of Albanians in Kosovo. It was a humanitarian intervention. It worked, and led to UN Peacekeepers being deployed and the ending of the Kosovo War. Several leaders and henchmen from the Republic of Yugoslavia ending up in The Hague for the crimes against humanity which they had presided over.

Now, of course, if you are a person who reads a lot of Russian propaganda and revisionism, then everything to do with Yugoslavia will be distorted.

How does this link into the Russian invasion of Ukraine, I hear you ask? Well, I don't know. Unless we are talking about NATO intervention to impose peace and remove Russia from Ukraine. Chance would be a fine thing, but I somehow doubt that would happen. Although, no doubt that some Russians will end up being hunted for war crimes, as happened in Yugoslavia.

Before typing, brush up.

Disintegration of Yugoslavia was in 1992.

NATO Bombing of Serbia and Kosovo was in 1999.

“Er”

So you, completely gloss over about the extremist Muslim terrorist cells in Kosovo which the Clinton administration backed with NATO on a leash that were tied to Al qaeda and 9/11?

Fact.

Extremist Muslim terrorist cells that defecated, demolished and vandalized centuries old Serbian Orthodox Christian monasteries that have been there for CENTURIES.

Yet gloss over how a Ukrainian MP just recently, wants to vote for the independence of Kosovo.

lol

Yet, the Eastern and south of Ukraine which has a massive majority of ethnic Russians is mute.

And clear evidence on Ukrainian reddit, and heck even in this thread saying any ethnic Russians there have ZERO voice or security and should be just kicked out.

Got it.

Lol

a reply to: gortex

"a former Soviet republic"

One wonders which FSR.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Oleksiy Arestovych, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, said in a YouTube interview that the attackers were from the Central Asian nation of Tajikistan and had opened fire on the others after an argument over religion.

www.aljazeera.com...

Iran will send Fateh-110 & Zolfaghar short-range ballistic missiles to Russia


Iran plans to send missiles, drones to Russia for Ukraine war, officials say


REAKING: WP reports that Iran will send Fateh-110 & Zolfaghar short-range ballistic missiles to Russia, as the country is running out of its own missiles. The missiles have a range of 300 & 700 km. First it was the suicide drones, now missiles. The mullahs have to fall too.

And Israel might change their view maybe...

NOW - Israel's Minister of Diaspora Affairs: This morning it was reported that Iran is transferring ballistic missiles to Russia. There is no longer any doubt where Israel should stand in this bloody conflict. The time has come for Ukraine to receive military aid as well.