'You loot, we shoot': Ron DeSantis delivers unflinching warning to criminals & looters

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: infolurker

Wow. It's Katrina all over again.

When did it become okay to murder people over property, especially when that property might be canned soda and diapers?

Looting from homes of people who had to evacuate or had their homes destroyed is the epitome of callousness.

If caught they deserve to be shot.

I would be happy to share whatever I have in a disaster scenario; all one would have to do is ask. If they try to take whatever they want without asking I have no choice but to assume my life may be in danger dur to their lack of integrity and will respond accordingly.

I feel NO obligation to empower the criminal element in society. Quite the reverse.

a reply to: JAGStorm

If you are looking for food and water you need to evacuate and got too one of the places they are offering food and water. This isn't mad max...although it probably looks like a wasteland. There are shelters and kitchens and the like as is usual for these things. And no I would just shoot first obviously. There would be commands to stop what they are doing and obviously I would assess the situation. I wouldn't shoot someone over food and water but I also would not allow taking someone else's supplies just because another says they need it. There are places to go and seek food and water and shelter.

a reply to: Creep Thumper

Joyless throws in her two cents.

Joy Reid Says DeSantis’ Warning to Potential Looters is a Racist Threat from ‘Segregationist’

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Careful. Organized looter brigades already on the scenes and the big time looting has started. MSM lame on full reporting.

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originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: infolurker

Wow. It's Katrina all over again.

When did it become okay to murder people over property, especially when that property might be canned soda and diapers?

So some thief should be able to steal my babies diapers?

Nope.

It's ALWAYS been ok to defend your property from thieving maggots, always should be too.

KOS

This world is full of scumbag thieves. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked that some of them make their way to ATS, yet I always am

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: JAGStorm

you do not steal regardless of the circumstances. SCrew anyone who steals something of mine,because ya getting a bullet .

I can tell that some of you people have never been in a real natural disaster.

Let me clue you in.

First off, I’m not talking about houses still standing and someone comes in and tries to get your jewelry etc. We know that is wrong and off limits. Is that simple enough?

What I’m talking about is during natural disasters there is often areas of chaos. During that chaos often there is no street signs, houses are strewn, boats are all over, and people are literally doing whatever it takes to survive. They may have to “loot” or “scavenge” until emergency help finds them. Sometimes this takes a while, sometimes it’s days, or a week.

What you don’t see in the news right now is the devastation in Port Charlotte and Naples. People are like, Oh just go to an emergency shelter. Um, have you seen the hospital in Port Charlotte? It was thigh deep in water and the people there needed to be rescued! I’ve heard reports of dead bodies floating about. They talked to a guy that his boat has completely broken apart. He had a broken collarbone.
He was now on land. Imagine him walking around trying to find water. He goes into a wrecked store for water.

Is he looting, YES YES YES. Should he be shot?

NO NO NO


But I guess it’s a Yes to some of you.

Don’t tell me it doesn’t happen, because of course it does..
This is why Desantis is WRONG for what he said and the exact reason he changed his tune.

My example of the boat guy shows a gray area. Is he stealing water, YES.
What if it wasn’t a store but a house and it was completely knocked to the ground. He didn’t see anyone.
He starts “rummaging” looking for food or water. Then someone comes back and sees him and they shoot him.
Is that justified? Hmmm that gets a little murky.

a reply to: Creep Thumper

Everything is racist according to that regime. Even the eagle in your avatar is racist as well as the stars.

Because they are white. That's the only denominator needed. Damn, these privileged stars and eagles, I tell you.

Wow, that Joy Reid is an unbelievable racist. She said threatening looters is racist, but what that means is she believes only minorities are going to be looters. What a pig to say something like that, and be stupid enough to not even understand what she herself is actually saying.

a reply to: JAGStorm

There is a process behind shooting someone. You don't just pop off rounds.

No one would shoot the guy in your example.

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: JAGStorm

If you are looking for food and water you need to evacuate and got too one of the places they are offering food and water. This isn't mad max...although it probably looks like a wasteland. There are shelters and kitchens and the like as is usual for these things. And no I would just shoot first obviously. There would be commands to stop what they are doing and obviously I would assess the situation. I wouldn't shoot someone over food and water but I also would not allow taking someone else's supplies just because another says they need it. There are places to go and seek food and water and shelter.

The places to go for help in some of these areas were under water too. The hospital in Port Charlotte was underwater and they needed to be rescued.

It is like Mad Max in some part. Some part were cut off from emergency services and are just now getting help.

abc3340.com...

Look at this video especially toward the end…

a reply to: Xtrozero

Thank for that Texas law.

A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime....

AND

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Stealing a TV from Target, diapers from Walmart or whatever from closed and boarded shops doesn't justify murder. Not in Texas and not in Florida. Looting and burglary are two different things.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: JAGStorm

There is a process behind shooting someone. You don't just pop off rounds.

No one would shoot the guy in your example.

YES they would especially in FLORIDA and especially with Desantis Loot We Shoot.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: infolurker

Wow. It's Katrina all over again.

When did it become okay to murder people over property, especially when that property might be canned soda and diapers?

Please show me a documented incident when someone has been killed for stealing diapers. I'll wait.

Sign, of course it has happened.
Armed customer shoots, kills man stealing diapers

While television images did capture people grabbing electronics and other valuable goods from local retail outlets, the majority of looters were hunting for bare essentials such as food, water, diapers and medicine, he said.

In one incident at the time on Danziger bridge, two unarmed civilians were shot dead by local police.

In an interview, Honoré, now retired, said: “It was way over-reported. People confused looting with people going into survival mode. It’ll happen to you and I if we were just as isolated.”

www.theguardian.com...

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: JAGStorm

There is a process behind shooting someone. You don't just pop off rounds.

No one would shoot the guy in your example.

YES they would especially in FLORIDA and especially with Desantis Loot We Shoot.

Are you a mind reader? No. Stop acting as if you know everything.

a reply to: Creep Thumper

Are you a mind reader? No. Stop acting as if you know everything.

I lived in Florida for years, that’s all I need to know.
Do you remember a little guy name Trayvon Martin?

a reply to: JAGStorm

No go read the laws again, your hysterical reactions dont reflect the reality in the state, people have been trying to paint Floridas laws as the wild west my entire life (was born there in the early 1970's). It doesnt happen like your example, how do I know it would be front page news in the MSM every time a major hurricane hit florida yet it isnt why is that I wonder.

Especially right now, they desperately want DeSantis dead politically, and it already would have happened in your hyper scenario.

Florida has a great deal of experience with hurricanes if it didnt happen in the first few days it wont happen pre-staged resources are already being handed out, search and rescue is all over the place helping people.

This ISNT Katrina while Florida has its issues they are and have been much better lead and corruption is wildly more under control than Louisiana.

Even Florida man doesnt mess with hurricane response.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

When it's "looting" in a disaster zone.

FEMA/EMT

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
Wow, that Joy Reid is an unbelievable racist. She said threatening looters is racist, but what that means is she believes only minorities are going to be looters. What a pig to say something like that, and be stupid enough to not even understand what she herself is actually saying.

No what that means is that like the example I gave for Sanibel. Those entering still standing houses that were not their own were labeled "michevious teenagers", not looters.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Florida has a great deal of experience with hurricanes if it didnt happen in the first few days it wont happen pre-staged resources are already being handed out, search and rescue is all over the place helping people.

Florida changes every five years due to the huge influx of outsiders moving there.

I’d 100% agree with you regarding the native locals though.

This ISNT Katrina while Florida has its issues they are and have been much better lead and corruption is wildly more under control than Louisiana.

Louisiana is a scary place, I had an incident just driving into it.
Yes they are very different, and yes Florida does have it’s issues.