Abortions - Why so bad?

a reply to: Annee

Sorry, but protecting our young is an instinct. We share that trait will all animals and we are animals. Just try and get between a bear and its cub or a moose and its young.

a reply to: Annee

Today -- many humans live more of an isolated life.

Not true. We are less and less isolated in more ways than one. Massive cities. We are interconnected through the Internet and cell phones in a way that makes us more connected than was previously possible.

a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise)and educated by that very government, there will be no change.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade and did absolutely nothing to help women make choices other than abortion. No pre-natal, post-natal, childcare subsidies, shelters...nadda.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

did absolutely nothing to help women make choices other than abortion. No pre-natal, post-natal, childcare subsidies, shelters...nadda.

2) We have centers that try to do just that.
They are targeted by the Pro-Death Cult, here in America.
They do not want these women getting any help. They want them to kill.
They spend millions and millions of dollars in negative propaganda against them.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Annee

Today -- many humans live more of an isolated life.

Not true. We are less and less isolated in more ways than one. Massive cities. We are interconnected through the Internet and cell phones in a way that makes us more connected than was previously possible.

Connected to who and what? Faceless names and avatars?

Do you think those in the city in high rise apartments know their next-door neighbor?

I live in a small apartment complex. Everyone lives their own life.

I did grow up a close neighborhood, where neighborhood kids played together -- and parents knew each other. But it's not like that now.

Just GOOGLE "are we becoming more isolated". You'll get a plethora of responses.

Are Americans Becoming More and More Isolated?

The findings appeared to show that Americans had become dramatically more isolated over the course of the two decades. In 1985, 10% answered "no one" to the first question. By 2004, nearly 25% (24.9%, to be exact, according to the first report) said that there was no one with whom they had discussed important matters in the past 6 months. www.psychologytoday.com...

edit on 2-12-2022 by Annee because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

Notice STATES.

The SC kicked it back to the states.

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

did absolutely nothing to help women make choices other than abortion. No pre-natal, post-natal, childcare subsidies, shelters...nadda.

2) We have centers that try to do just that.
They are targeted by the Pro-Death Cult, here in America.
They do not want these women getting any help. They want them to kill.
They spend millions and millions of dollars in negative propaganda against them.

The Governors of the states in question have the power and money to effect changes, which they have not done to this day. Also whatever programs in place for women and children in poverty miss the mark. There are no pre- post-natal, childcare programs for women who want to carry their pregnancies to term. I watch U.S. news and listened to statesmen admit they have nothing in place.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

Notice STATES.

The SC kicked it back to the states.

And?
Did the States overturn Roe v. Wade?
No.
The Supreme Court did.
Do you live in the US?

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

Notice STATES.

The SC kicked it back to the states.

And?
Did the States overturn Roe v. Wade?
No.
The Supreme Court did.
Do you live in the US?

No one actually overturned anything.

The SC deemed abortion is a state matter.

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

Notice STATES.

The SC kicked it back to the states.

And?
Did the States overturn Roe v. Wade?
No.
The Supreme Court did.
Do you live in the US?

The SC heavily leans to their opinionated religious beliefs and not towards justice for all. IMO

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

Notice STATES.

The SC kicked it back to the states.

And?
Did the States overturn Roe v. Wade?
No.
The Supreme Court did.
Do you live in the US?

No one actually overturned anything.

The SC deemed abortion is a state matter.

What a cop out.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

did absolutely nothing to help women make choices other than abortion. No pre-natal, post-natal, childcare subsidies, shelters...nadda.

2) We have centers that try to do just that.
They are targeted by the Pro-Death Cult, here in America.
They do not want these women getting any help. They want them to kill.
They spend millions and millions of dollars in negative propaganda against them.

The Governors of the states in question have the power and money to effect changes, which they have not done to this day. Also whatever programs in place for women and children in poverty miss the mark. There are no pre- post-natal, childcare programs for women who want to carry their pregnancies to term. I watch U.S. news and listened to statesmen admit they have nothing in place.

....You listen to propaganda and propagandist.
Abortion is BIG BUSHINESS here.
There is no way to outspend them, not when they do the educating and keep people ignorant to the one simple FACT I keep iterating:
Abortion is the violent, premeditated killing of another human being for convenience in 99% of cases.

They want you to believe anything other than that simple fact.
Google (propaganda Machine of choice) "Crisis Pregnancy Centers in America".
Look at the MONEY spent to demonize them and discredit them.
Look at ANYTHING that gives ANY OTHER OPTION other than abortion.
Follow the Money.
People are ignorant tools being used for a purpose and they fall in line.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

Notice STATES.

The SC kicked it back to the states.

And?
Did the States overturn Roe v. Wade?
No.
The Supreme Court did.
Do you live in the US?

No one actually overturned anything.

The SC deemed abortion is a state matter.

...........
By Overturning Roe v. Wade.
...........

To overturn:
abolish, invalidate, or reverse (a previous system, decision, situation, etc.).
"the results overturned previous findings"
www.google.com...

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone

I put the responsibility to make positive changes in this area in the hands of leadership in government.

Which starts with the populace electing them.
As long as the populace electing them are ignorant (willfully or otherwise), there will be no change.

That's not true, the elected people in certain states reversed Roe v. Wade

You don't live in the US, do you?
1)The Supreme Court is not elected.

did absolutely nothing to help women make choices other than abortion. No pre-natal, post-natal, childcare subsidies, shelters...nadda.

2) We have centers that try to do just that.
They are targeted by the Pro-Death Cult, here in America.
They do not want these women getting any help. They want them to kill.
They spend millions and millions of dollars in negative propaganda against them.

The Governors of the states in question have the power and money to effect changes, which they have not done to this day. Also whatever programs in place for women and children in poverty miss the mark. There are no pre- post-natal, childcare programs for women who want to carry their pregnancies to term. I watch U.S. news and listened to statesmen admit they have nothing in place.

....You listen to propaganda and propagandist.
Abortion is BIG BUSHINESS here.
There is no way to outspend them, not when they do the educating and keep people ignorant to the one simple FACT I keep iterating:
Abortion is the violent, premeditated killing of another human being for convenience in 99% of cases.

They want you to believe anything other than that simple fact.
Google (propaganda Machine of choice) "Crisis Pregnancy Centers in America".
Look at the MONEY spent to demonize them and discredit them.
Look at ANYTHING that gives ANY OTHER OPTION other than abortion.
Follow the Money.
People are ignorant tools being used for a purpose and they fall in line.

It's not propaganda when statemen say they have no programs in place to help women carry a pregnancy to term while providing childcare subsidies so they can still continue their university education and lo and behold there were and still are no programs in place. That's just the plain truth.

a reply to: Annee

OK, I get what you mean.